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Finished: 05 PM Sun 26 Jul 20 UTC
Classic gunboat-41
1 day /phase
Pot: 105 D - Autumn, 1922, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by pyxxy (698 D)
08 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused. If you have any concerns about unpausing please email
25 Jul 20 UTC ok - who didn't draw? my draw vote has been in since before england died
25 Jul 20 UTC and russia why didnt you support hold tunis?
25 Jul 20 UTC Italy no offense but this game was completely your fault. We had a stalemate in North Africa, gulf of Lyon and western med. why didn’t you just support hold western med? And I had draw in since I was at 14 centers.
25 Jul 20 UTC Also you should have moved to Budapest to get a fleet build to hold off germany. If I had support held Tunis he could have taken Tyrrhenian so I had to guess which one to support.
25 Jul 20 UTC I had thought about taking one of your centers to build a fleet but I wasn't sure how you would respond.

In regard to WMe, the most recent time I didn't support hold it was so I could defend TyS, the time before was a mistake. The biggest mistake was disbanding two of my fleets because I assumed you would continue attacking.

I did make mistakes, but don't pretend like you didn't either. Once you were ready to draw you should have stopped attacking so we could focus on whoever wasn't drawing (which seems to be Germany).
25 Jul 20 UTC How was I supposed to know who wasn’t drawing? I thought it was you and once I knew it wasn’t i did stop attacking. That isn’t a mistake that’s just the game.
25 Jul 20 UTC >ok - who didn't draw?
Me, obviously :|

GGs in the polite sense/competitive spirit.

I have to agree with Russia here, Italy, this is a game to learn from. Russia correctly identified the stalemate line in S20, if you had support held WES in A20, then I would have drawn.

You also correctly identified that you needed to take a Russian center and build another fleet to hold another, further back stalemate line. Don't be afraid to do this, Russia was helping throughout the west and clearly had extra armies they could disband.

Also...they were signaling you could take BUD via support orders, which you can see if you open the large map via the middle button. There's an argument that Russia could have also retreated further back from VIE and WAR to signal that they wanted you to take a center, but tbh the support order is enough.

"The biggest mistake was disbanding two of my fleets because I assumed you would continue attacking" yeah this didn't help, it might have made more sense to disband CON + SMY to cut your losses in former Turkey. You could send TYS west still and ION would be flexible for west or ADR to support your central holdings. Then you wait to see what Russia does. Once I saw that there might not be enough fleets to hold me off, I started long-term planning to disband Russia's fleets.

I'm a little curious about Russia's reasoning to take CON in A17, but I think it was just bc they saw that I was gonna take a bunch of centers from them and they didn't want to completely collapse.
25 Jul 20 UTC Gg all.
25 Jul 20 UTC Thanks for putting that out there Germany. Sorry for my testy response to begin Italy. It was tough to watch the solid draw slip away when the stalemate had been achieved in such a competitive game.
25 Jul 20 UTC "Sorry for my testy response to begin Italy"
Ty for acknowledging this. The first messages after any game, especially a solo, are full of emotion <3
26 Jul 20 UTC Alright, thanks all. Good game!

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pyxxy (698 D)
Won. Bet: 15 D, won: 105 D
18 supply-centers, 14 units
gweilowizard (132 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
seth24c (5859 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
AnimalsCS (50 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Stacee_Jaxx (187 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Wicksy27 (109 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
PhoenixFlame (489 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
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