Finished: 08 AM Thu 03 Jun 10 UTC
Rise of Empires-3
14 hours /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 9, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by syphilis (193D)

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21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: OK....I confess that INITIALLY I was working on non-aggressive terms with Egypt. But it turn out he is just a back-stabbing BI-ATCH. So....be careful who you ally with. i would rather take a draw with you than lose to my "ally". Time to Beat down f*ing Egypt. Can I get an Amen here?

If needed, I will supply the private dialogue screens to demonstrate he is a liar.

Why i lose webDip games.....because people are fucking liars, and I have integrity. My bad. Shame on me....


I will die defeating you, Egypt. F*ck you.
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Says Egypt to me: "....I think you'll find that in a game of Diplomacy, going back on alliances is very par for the course. It's a matter of when, not if...."

So....if you are a friend of Egypt...you are not.
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: So....who is with me? Play for a draw as long as Egypt the Liar is gone?????
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Let us show him what we think of backstabbing so soon. I'm not naive enough tho think that backstabbing is not par....but it's spring 3...and he has in NO way assured himself a victory. Such a fool as this deserves to die.


Carthage! Was I not honest with you early on when I said I needed to TEST Egypt before I dealt with you?

And Greece...Egypt told me FROM TURN 1 that you were going after me. He has NEVER been honorable. I will cease ALL hostilities against ANYONE except Egypt if i can get a global Amen.

You know you want this letcher to die with me. So join me, nations of the world, in the defeat of Egypt. Liar. Letcher. Dishonorable fool....
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Someone's taking this a bit seriously. It's a game of diplomacy. Backstabbing occurs. You choose your alliances and move on from there. I have chosen Carthage, I'm sorry you are so upset about that, but as I said that is part of the game. As much as you might think it was some random backstabbing or spur of the moment, my armies have always been very near to your borders, and have always been working towards that. This was not a random thought. Carthage has always been my ally, and I have always had only the one army at his border at all time. Greece I have never gone near (except when I thought he was going into civil disorder). I have no real contact with Rome. You are just spitting out the dummy. This is part of the game and you should have been ready for it.
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Ha ha ha.....He has Choosen Carthage...as his next victim. shall I post his comments to me about his plans for Carthage? I told carthage I was nuetral until I knew what Egypr was planning.

I know your armies have been near my borders...which is why you have not penetrated my borders, yet. I'm not stupid, Egypt.

I was and am ready for your backstabbing....and I am calling for all my fellow Leaders to stand up against the first amongst this world to be a blatant - and now ADMITTED - backstabber.

I'll bet there are those amongst you that would NOT be so evil as Egypt...and therefore I ask you to join me. I would rather draw than see Egypt see any form on victory.

He is foul. Scandalous....and now openly so!!!! So let us defeat him together!!!

What say you?
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Yes, I would tell you my plans to divide up Carthage when I was planning on attacking you. How idiotic does that sound? I have been Carthage's ally since Spring 1. I have been massing on your border since spring 1. Therein lies the difference.
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Egypt tells me Carthage has been his ally and friend from the beginning. It's like playing with Azogar...two people play to help each other before turn one has even started.

All the more reason to beat these fools down. You might as well meta-game/multi-account if you are just going to pick your ally as tyhe winner from turn one. Damn closest thing to cheating i can see. I get "lets play together". I don't get "let's be allies no matter what happens". Anyone else agree??
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: He was opposite the map of me. We had different interests, him in the West, me in the East. If you look at the default map, Austria and Germany are almost always allies. France and Italy. Italy and Austria very often. It's geographic. I have never before talked to him or played with him (to my knowledge). You are just being absurd at this point. Accept it and move on and stop ranting in the main page.
21 May 10 UTC Spring, 3: Oh....breaking news....Egypt is also personal friends with Greece.

Nice game. I get "Diplomacy" - deal making and breaking....but when the deals are all pre=determined because two of the players live in the same dorm as you....that is pretty much just cheating.

The pathetic thing is Egypt just openly admits it to me in nation to nation chat. How pathetic.


And I say this as the player TIED for first...in other words...i'm not just whining...but i am telling my fellow players that Egypt has been allied with two other players from BEFORE the game began. Might as well have multi-accounts.

Fucking cheat. i guess I don't even have a hope of winning as Carthage - despite being beat to a pulp - will pretend to battle Egypt and Greece has decided -- according to Egypt - to trade Crete in fake battle to make it appear that they are fighting....all the while they are all allied.

I predict an Egypt/Greece/Carthage split at the end.

i guess I can't win a pre-determined 3 vs 2 game.

I'll just make sure we play out the entire length of the game.

unless Carthage of Greece has the balls to man up and be an individual (instead of a multi-account) and actually fight for real against Egypt. (Remember...he has admitted to me in private conversation since i exposed him that all his battles with them have been fake to "prove" he is hostile.)
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: ... When did I ever say I was friends with Greece? I outright said I do not know either of them in person. You are being ridiculous.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: HILLARIOUS!!!! Now Egypt is talking to me in private saying it's a game and i should stop exposing our conversations because it's a game. yeah. It IS a game...and let's make sure Egypt loses, since he has admitted to me he is a liar.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: Egypt backpedals....Oh.....we had this all planned from the beginning....but i dont' know tham. Seriously? Greece has taken a beat-down without defense. Carthage has not defended in any sensible way....

So, nations of the world....man up. don't let dorm-boss Egypt dictate your actions. Don't play the fool, because you will be next.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: I have never had a problem with you "exposing" our conversations. There is nothing to expose. Here's what was said, when you claim I said Greece was a personal friend. "11:15 PM Spring, 3: So...before the game began you and your dorm buddy decided to not attack each other no matter what? Nice. All but blatant cheating. Why not just multi-account and be done with it?

And Greece live what..down the hall?
11:19 PM Spring, 3: I do not live in a dorm. I do not know these people in person. They are allies in an online video game. It's the way the game works. Lean to accept that."
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: Wow....wtf is that? lol Egypt is making up conversation to defend himself. that is tooooo funny.

Don't buy the lie, people. Egypt is one step away from being a multi....

I will lose with dignity if i have to. No problem with my conscience here...

You make me sad, Egypt. I don't lie...

Good night folks. Bed calls to me.

I guess I will try to answer Egypt's lies in the morning....
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: I have one question to you. If I am a multi, who is playing with friends whom I know in real life and will never stab me in the back... why are you writing all this? It is already 'known' that we're all pals, then it won't make a difference at all. Obviously you know it's not true, but you want either Greece or Carthage to think it is, then turn on me as a result.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: Pretty much obvious he wants somone to attack the guy whos fighting with him.
I dont mind ending in a Draw, its way better than loosing.
Also, moving armies around is only 10% of the game. Rest is messaging.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: Exactly.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: Oh...I agree. This is why I have messaged the globe to reveal the well-played deceit of Egypt...He deceived me. He claimed to be allies with both Carthage and Greece...and has backstabbed both of them. Through my messaging, Egypt revealed much to me in private messages about his alliances in order to defend his honor. lol Quite funny, actually....because he's screwing everyone he claimed to be allies with!

Which is why I call for a global alliance against him.

See....I get the purpose of messaging. i got you to spill your guts to me last might over private...and I have passed that info on to those "allies" of yours.
21 May 10 UTC Autumn, 3: My guts about being a good ally to Carthage and Greece, about not knowing them in person, about how I have always intended to attack you as is evidenced by my messages to both Carthage and Greece and my troop deployments? Give it a rest.

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