Finished: 11 PM Tue 21 May 19 UTC
Gunboat-898
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
0 excused missed turn
Game won by CulturalMarxism (10 D X)
21 May 19 UTC Spring, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
21 May 19 UTC Autumn, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
21 May 19 UTC Spring, 1905: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
21 May 19 UTC France what the fuck is your problem
21 May 19 UTC Guys how did i win I am so fucking high rn
21 May 19 UTC GG Austria but you know you didn't deserve that
21 May 19 UTC um how did I not deserve it
21 May 19 UTC France actively worked against me even though we had a reasonable way to stalemate you
21 May 19 UTC You attacked me so I decided screw you, let Austria have the win. If you hadn't have been a greedy S.O.B. and just swept into the German centers instead of moving into Mid and taking Spain none of this would have happened. Guess how many tokens you get for 12 centers? NONE. You brought it all on yourself, I never once moved on ANY of your units until you moved on me.
21 May 19 UTC Being stuck in Austrian jail is no fun.
21 May 19 UTC You had nothing in your path the entire game
21 May 19 UTC Why would I want to stalemate Austria? He won, and I helped him win. You lost because you attacked me. Serves you right.
21 May 19 UTC No fuck you, I had to take matters into my own hands because you were doing dumb shit and I had no way of knowing if you were competent since you didn't play competently the entire game
21 May 19 UTC I lost because you're a vengeful pussy
21 May 19 UTC "You took one of my centers now i will spend 5 years fucking you at every turn"
21 May 19 UTC Turkey, I feel for you
21 May 19 UTC I didn't care if Germany or Turkey won, anyone but you England. Bwahahahahaha! Hip hip hooray!

Spite is my favorite motivation in Diplomacy. Next time you won't stab or ONE CENTER.
21 May 19 UTC I didn't stab for one center, I stabbed assuming it would be a 3 way between me austria and turkey
21 May 19 UTC I hate niggas like you
21 May 19 UTC You lost because you were a greedy crybaby. Go cry in your dirty diaper.
21 May 19 UTC The mark of a shitty player tbh
21 May 19 UTC Oh well, I shat on 4 countries, I'm proud of my play nonetheless
21 May 19 UTC +1 for England, -1 for France
21 May 19 UTC You lost, you have nothing to be proud of. You also understand nothing about motivation. Not everyone is a brainless robot like you.
21 May 19 UTC <3 love you Turkey, you played an MVP role being a fucking brick wall
21 May 19 UTC Jesus lol, you have no wins, and more defeats than draws lol, I'd say you probably troll in a lot of areas in your life, and I feel sorry for you. I hope you learn to eventually put positive energy into the universe instead
21 May 19 UTC I'm THRILLED with the way it turned out...someone other than England won. Yee haw!
21 May 19 UTC I'm THRILLED with the way it turned out...someone other than England won. Yee haw!
21 May 19 UTC I'm THRILLED with the way it turned out...someone other than England won. Yee haw!
21 May 19 UTC everyone says yee haw, but how often do people say haw yee :,(
21 May 19 UTC By the way England, all you had to do was support Berlin from Baltic...you couldn't even do that, bwahahahaha.
21 May 19 UTC I thought i did actually, which is the funny part because with all your interference i was still pretty much a one man blockade
21 May 19 UTC Wow well congrats Austria. Beautiful shitstorm
21 May 19 UTC In all seriousness England, in a no-communication Gunboat game you have to give me a sign you're interested in working together. You took Por, Mid, and EVERY turn from then on you attacked Spa. Every one. You can't use "well I didn't know if you were competent enough to work with" as an excuse if in the same breath you're going to ask why I wasn't helping to stop Austria. You made a choice to keep attacking me, so I made my choice to deny you any benefit from the game. Even when I moved Ech-Nth I immediately withdrew to Hel....my next fleet Bre moved to Mid to show I was not attacking you. I won't argue with your choice to attack me, that's just a decision you had to make one way or the other. But you can't have it both ways: continually attack my centers AND complain that I wouldn't work with you. You'll notice Germany took the same tactic I took: when I backed off of him he passed his centers to Austria and moved west. I understood; he wanted revenge since he knew he wasn't likely to survive anyway. I've written many articles, and published many more, where experienced players try to remind everyone that not everyone has the same goal all the time. It just depends on the circumstance; if this was part of a 7x7 Gunboat Round Robin and in another game France was cleaning up the board, I would have likely chosen not to get back at you, because I'd know you weren't France in that game and my goal is to achieve the highest score among the seven total games.

Two other points:

You may not have noticed, I came in as a standby. So I had no coins at risk. That doesn't change things much, but it does allow me more freedom to get my revenge with no cost.

Second, as soon as Italy went CD I was ready to work with you. That's when you attacked, by which time it was already clear Austria was leading the board. Well, you and Austria were, which is why I don't fault the initial attack. You wanted to stay ahead of Austria and get the win. But you never stopped attacking when it became clear only a combined effort would stop him. So why would *I* stop?
22 May 19 UTC All this to say what? You contradicted yourself like 4 times idk what you’re arguing honestly.
22 May 19 UTC Your reading comprehension is as bad as your play. No wonder you lost.
22 May 19 UTC Looking back on this game sober I have to say france you got screwed really fast by both germany and england 1908 forward to a degree where you couldn't really do anything to help draw a stalemate, like what year did you think england should have started working with you?
22 May 19 UTC That's my point Austria, like it was a two-pronged mission of vengeance rather than attempting to even consider helping me. Both Germany and England were so salty they tried to throw, and could barely even do so with all that work. France shouldce helped me in 1910 the second I telegraphed I was done taking his stuff, I moved away from Liverpool, didn't attack Paris, and was now in no position to take any French territories. But instead he went for Belgium like a bitch
22 May 19 UTC Im really mad for CDing guys...
22 May 19 UTC I guess it was kind of a good thing, because Turkey never fell because of it
22 May 19 UTC You totally allowed Austria out the box lol
22 May 19 UTC Yea, I was seconds off from readying my order...
Then the game moves on, I get CDed
It wouldnt let me rejoin back the game, and now I think there's a glitch with their system cause it thought I was apart of this game for 9 more phases and kept hurting my RR rating.
Now a one day ban, which had a possibility of being reversed is now a year ban :/
22 May 19 UTC Moderator: (peterwiggin): Hi all,

First, a friendly reminder that it is against site rules to use racial slurs in press, even after the game is over.

Second, Flavius, we've fixed your ban, right?
22 May 19 UTC Yes, you have, I just got the message, thank you!!
22 May 19 UTC Even if you belong to such demographic, and therefore have final say over the nature and context of the word and its use?
22 May 19 UTC I once watched a debate, and it was whether or not the Confederate flag was racist.
Basically, I thought it was, it stood for slavery and that was that.
But a point was brought up; The American flag to native Americans stands for oppression
The Spanish flag stands for the destruction of culture
Symbols, words all of it, can mean different things to different people.
In the debate, the people wanted the Confederate flag to distance itself away from slavery
I think as long as you clearly communicated its intention it is fine.
22 May 19 UTC I mean, I'm black. The word is never derogatory when I use it. It doesn't matter I was already docked points.
22 May 19 UTC Moderator: (peterwiggin): Flavius: your examples there would say we shouldn't fly the American/Spanish flags, not that it's ok to fly a Confederate flag :-)

Larry: I have tried to consistently discourage all racial slurs on the site, especially when used in the context of hating somebody and those like them. I understand that there are some people who belong to marginalized groups who try to reclaim slurs. However, on a mostly-anonymous website such as this one and in a message that's publicly visible, allowing their usage does not help create a welcoming environment for all users.
22 May 19 UTC Makes sense

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Austria
Won. Bet: 25 D, won: 175 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
England
ThatBuhlLarry (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D
12 supply-centers, 11 units
Turkey
90kicvesb (4021 D)
Survived. Bet: 25 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
France
Survived. Bet: 0 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
Italy
FlaviusAetius (991 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Germany
Postulat (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
FlaviusAetius (991 D)Italy (Spring, 1905) with 4 centres.
Juxtapose (212 D)France (Spring, 1901) with 3 centres.
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