Finished: 10 AM Mon 01 Jul 19 UTC
In the Trenches VI
1 day /phase
Pot: 105 D - Spring, 1918, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
31 May 19 UTC Autumn, 1905: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
04 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1906: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
20 Jun 19 UTC Autumn, 1913: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
30 Jun 19 UTC Good game everyone.
30 Jun 19 UTC I was planning on attacking England, but I had nasty Turkey on my tail, who could not see the bigger picture, but he did finally see it

Turkey, I took Rumania, and from there, you decided I was your sworn enemy. I always faced my armies elsewhere and kept a few behind to keep you from taking my SCs. I was happy to let you out into the Med to turn on France, as it looked as France England had an alliance, but you kept fighting me. Oh well. I do think you should look at the larger game and not just your neighborhood. You would have seen I wasn't after you until maybe the end when I got tired of your constant nibbling.
30 Jun 19 UTC I saw that Russia and Turkey were allied, so I had to take one of them, otherwise, they would roll over me, so I went after Russia, until I realized the real problem was England France. I took Italy from France, but then had to retreat because of Turkey.
30 Jun 19 UTC Gunboat is hard. Guys are so dang self centered in this game. You can win as an alliance you know.
30 Jun 19 UTC That is why is the gunboat an art. It is hard to find out, who is ally and who is enemy. You have to read the other's thoughts. :)
30 Jun 19 UTC I think alliances are really hard in gunboat because you can't coordinate very easily. In other presses, you can just talk about your moves.
30 Jun 19 UTC Austria. You took Bulgaria not Rumania. You can’t expect an alliance with Turkey in this circumstance. Then you stopped me in AEG every turn. I had no choice. No one has a chance of winning except England or a draw. At the end it was just about how big a draw. If I thought we could take you out without letting England solo I would have done so.
30 Jun 19 UTC I’m very happy with all my choices.
30 Jun 19 UTC I’m very happy with all my choices in the game.
30 Jun 19 UTC I’m very happy with all my choices in the game.
30 Jun 19 UTC Well played everyone. Good game
01 Jul 19 UTC Austria - I honestly can't believe that you are criticizing Turkey's game. England was clearly the solo threat and you went into Italy taking my centres when I was clearly doing everything I could to stop England from taking the solo. Taking my centres in Italy was clearly not seeing the bigger picture.

England well done and good game. I am honestly a bit shocked that you didn't capitalize on my moving every unit I had to take Austria out of Italy. I was throwing the game at that point. I think you could have easily taken the solo if you had wanted it.

Also well done Turkey. Thank you for giving me the room to do what needed to be done. I don't know if you noticed but I was supporting you into Greece for several turns. Also for future reference I would have appreciated you moving one of your fleets out to eventually the Western Med to support my fleet in the Mid Atlantic. I don't know if you were thinking about doing that. But, I would have appreciated it. A small point but something to consider.
01 Jul 19 UTC Yeah, I was hoping that I could wrap up Russia before you moved your units back, but that cost me the game.
01 Jul 19 UTC France, as I saw it, you were working with England. I must have misread the board. So you seemed an easier and more accessible target so I went after you. I saw England and France taking it all, and tried to move west and north, but, as I said, Turkey wouldn't leave me alone.
01 Jul 19 UTC I was hoping Turkey would move a fleet out west too, but he was fixated on me, and missed the larger picture, until the last year or two. That doesn't matter though, he did see the larger picture eventually, and we stopped the solo.
01 Jul 19 UTC I can assure you the larger picture was in my mind all the time :-) We just have different larger pictures in our minds.
01 Jul 19 UTC The way I saw it France is that you had enough units to cover MAO and my move of fleets west may have been misinterpreted as an attack.
01 Jul 19 UTC @Austria - just in case you forgot, here were your sequence of moves

Spring 1902 Gre S Hold Bul
Autumn 1902 Attack Rumania
S 1903 Attack Rum
A 1903 Attack and take Bul

I'm now dead unless I prevent your fleet getting to AEG. We then stood off 6 times in AEG. If you wanted me to work with you then you had to stop doing this move. For me it was pure survival - you get into AEG then I'm finished. In fact you got into AEG when I shifted approach to Bul because Russia was supporting me there. SO just to be clear - you never stopped attacking me until your Support Hold Smy in Spring 1909.

By this stage my thinking was that England might accept a draw if we reduce the size of it. And we needed to ensure that they didn't get to Solo. My calculation was that I could afford to keep attacking you for a few more years without risking the solo - which is what I did. All through this time i had my DRAW vote in so that it could be stopped at any time - which England did in the end. I could have removed my DRAW vote and tried to finish you off with England's help but I wasn't 100% sure that I could prevent the solo so the DRAW was a safety blanket that would kick in once England tired of fighting or decided that they could not solo

So, you have seen the big picture in my mind because I have described it above. I stand by my actions - and I got from a 3 SC position where I was on the ropes into a 4-way draw - i'm very happy with the outcome :-)
01 Jul 19 UTC Ok, not mad at you, but I was somewhat exasperated at the time.

When I "attacked" you, after I took Bulgaria, it was only with 1 army. I never supported my attacks. I never tried to take your territory. I was trying to keep you from coming after me. That was it.

You saw these single army attacks as attacks. I would have done the same, probably.

Gunboat is very difficult for me. I always lose. If you look at my stats, which you need not, you will see, I usually am defeated. In full press, I usually draw for the win. I just don't know how to play this game.
01 Jul 19 UTC I did keep you out of the Aegean forever, yes, to protect Bul and Gre. Really, if you got into the Aegean, you would have come after Bul, I know it. So it was wise to do. To keep you bottled up. I was hoping you would go to Eastern Med and onto the Ionian...wishful deluded thinking.
01 Jul 19 UTC I should have never let you into the Aegean. That was my big mistake.
01 Jul 19 UTC Austria is tough at GB. Have you read the stuff that swordsman3000 has written at his Brother Bored blog? Changed my play dramatically
01 Jul 19 UTC Link here
“The greatest game of all time” is several days of reading but highly recommended
01 Jul 19 UTC I read that blog, but did not read his game. It just seemed too detailed for me. Maybe I should.
01 Jul 19 UTC It’s an amazing discourse on the thought process of a top, top, gunboat player. Worth the effort in my opinion.
01 Jul 19 UTC I know he is good. But it is reading Kant or Hegel. He is deep. And it takes some real mindspace to read it. I am sure it made you a better player.

Still you should have noticed I only half heartedly attacked you to keep you at bay. :)

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