Finished: 04 PM Sat 29 Sep 18 UTC
One Archduke’s death later
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
19 Aug 18 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck everyone, and have fun
21 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: Should we pause until we find a new player?
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: Nah, I’m fine with it, someone will join in time
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: This is my first time playing
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: Good luck to you then, I hope you like it.
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: Im hosting a new game, here’s the room link: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=227547
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: 2 people have already joined
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: As I mentioned in another game, a 1901 NMR unbalances the game and makes for an unenjoyable experience. I'd prefer that we cancel, and I'd say that even if I were Germany, Italy, or England, who benefit now from France's NMR.
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: What is NMR?
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: All I could think of was “Nuclear Magnetic Resonance”
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: No Move Received. It's a term for what happened with France, when no orders are given. Typically, a Spring 1901 NMR results in restarting a game, since it unbalances the game and is less fun for all.
22 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1901: Thanks for the explanation, but shouldn’t we just play on?
25 Aug 18 UTC Spring, 1902: Glad to play on. But I've not seen an England able to grab Portugal in Spring 1902 before. ;) (I'd do the same in your situation, but you can see how it makes the board dynamic unstable.)
26 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1902: Well France and England no shows have screwed this game up nicely!!!!!!
26 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1902: I will put an asterisk by this game. ;) Or glad to draw/cancel.
27 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1902: Is it common to cancel every game someone misses a turn? Because that's happened in all 3 games I've played so far
27 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1902: When they miss from the start and when there are 2 as in this game it is a common thing to do.
27 Aug 18 UTC Autumn, 1902: This is why I prefer using PlayDip ;)
14 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1905: I have come in to help by taking over AUS. Will try to assess what has happened
21 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1906: New Turkey
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: GER, you have stalemate lines secured, and therefore RUS, TUR, AUS combined can't beat you. However, I think, in speaking for RUS and TUR we're not going to attack each other now to allow you to win and with that said we also have secured stalemate lines to prevent you from getting to 18. We can continue to play until you concedever that point but, I'm hitting "draw" now.
24 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: *concede
25 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'm willing to draw, but I'd like to see Turkey do it, as I haven't heard from him at all.
25 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: FRA has to be eliminated
25 Sep 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: That will be difficult unless Turkey wants a draw too.
26 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: GER, if you were allowed to take FRA, would you agree to a draw
26 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Yes.
26 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: If Turkey retreats from North Africa and/or west med this turn, I'll take out and France and vote for a draw.
26 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: GER, you don't need either of those things to hit the draw button
27 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: If you look at the map, even if he retreats there is not way I can do anything in the med. Now that I've opened a dialogue with turkey, I'm chill.
27 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Are we all support holding this turn otherwise?
27 Sep 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Wow, really?
27 Sep 18 UTC Well played turkey
27 Sep 18 UTC Well played turkey
27 Sep 18 UTC So do we all want a draw or not?
27 Sep 18 UTC What is your reluctance to hit the draw button
27 Sep 18 UTC Turkey hasnt.
27 Sep 18 UTC Hi all players. I felt as though I did what I was supposed to to get a 4 way draw in good faith. Austria has been incredibly belligerent and demanding, and quite frankly I'm tired of it. I no longer will draw if Austria is involved. In all seriousness, I'd rather Turkey solo than Austria get any points at all. He may have a high rating and he may think that that makes him some sort of god, but it certainly doesn't make him invincible. Feel free to pm me, both Turkey and Russia.
27 Sep 18 UTC Also, if Austria isnt destroyed, Im willing drag this out as long as possible.
27 Sep 18 UTC Wow, threats. If you look back at the "Global" logs, I pointed out that despite your attempt at a win, that TUR, RUS, and myself held stalemate positions and suggested a draw, you refused. Now TUR has out maneuvered you in the Med\MidA, because you were so preoccupied with RUS, it's my fault? TUR and I protected RUS from being eliminated by you. Clearly your statement is that or a sore loser.
27 Sep 18 UTC Not at all-star I made no attempts to anything aggressive this turn. If you'd like me to produce your belligerent chat logs and post them in global, I am happy to do so. I don't like it very much and when high ranked players attempt to puppet and push around low ranked players, and since that's how you've behaved, and I'm quite willing to drag this out as long as you are involved.
27 Sep 18 UTC I did no such thing. And if the other players are willing to look at my profile they'd see, that I've been on this site for 10 years, over 100 games, a perfect 100% reliably rating and only 3 wins with over a 78% "win, survive, draw". Why 3 wins, because I keep my alliances and don't stab. It is true, TUR has an opportunity to win and has no obligation to draw, as you did. You Foose not to, now that you could lose because of your decisions alone, you choose to blame me for them? That makes no sense.
27 Sep 18 UTC Not blaming you for anything of the sort. I attempted to take Portugal with the intent of then drawing, as my lack of aggressive moves, particularly my lack of trying for stp implies. I too am a draw type of guy rather than an attempt for the solo sort of guy. You, however, told me you spoke for Russia an turkey in global, told me to move in a certain way or I'd regret it, and then called me a liar. Like I said, I'm not fan of high ranking players pushing around low ranking players for their own benefit.
27 Sep 18 UTC And still you won't hit "draw"? Why, because TUR won't do it first? As I pointed out previously, TUR hitting draw has no bearing on you doing it. What has been your reluctance to so? This has had nothing to do with me, you said it yourself, you were only willing to do so, if, TUR did so first.
27 Sep 18 UTC What is my benefit, 14 points?
27 Sep 18 UTC My reluctance was that I wanted to make sure Turkey was serious about drawing, and wasn't going to try to invade me. Hitting draw was a waste if he was just going to invade me.
27 Sep 18 UTC Clearly you care.
27 Sep 18 UTC I've got to get to work. Turkey and Russia feel free to pm me if you want to talk.
27 Sep 18 UTC If you hit draw as FRA, RUS, and myself had, and continue to play as though a draw wasn't happening, it would have no bearing on the orders you submit. You say it would be a waste of time, no, it just would have been a factor in the outcome.
27 Sep 18 UTC I apologize for for banter between GER and myself. The board itself supports my statements, if we did not support hold RUS and hold the Tyr, Boh, Sil line, then GER would have gained the 3 centers needed for a win. That, there is no dispute, despite GER reluctance to acknowledge that fact. Now that GER, is now out of position and could potentially lose, if TUR is now unwilling to draw is not my fault. I sincerely hope that each of you see this, and do not allow a player to basically threaten to purposefully disrupt the outcome of a game because he doesn't like that the possible outcome now is, him not obtaining a win.

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Germany
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
15 supply-centers, 14 units
Turkey
Disco Stu (20 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 14 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Austria
Carpysmind (1423 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 14 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
thamunda (124 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
France
Arun2642 (613 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 14 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
England
dargorygel (541 D Mod (G))
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Italy
Sir Randor (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
legalalien93 (100 D)France (Spring, 1907) with 1 centres.
The Representative of this emp (10 D X)England (Autumn, 1902) with 4 centres.
nguyenmt (5419 D)England (Autumn, 1905) with 0 centres.
COldmeldrum Blimp (100 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1906) with 12 centres.
Leglaen (100 D)Austria (Spring, 1905) with 4 centres.
DemetriDominov (100 D)France (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
applsrgud (100 D)France (Autumn, 1902) with 2 centres.
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