Finished: 04 AM Sun 24 Jun 18 UTC
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by ChippeRock (2564 D)
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: In addition, Russia is exploiting that.
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Wait what? Turkey moved his units to our border when there were no Russian units there... I realize that a possible motivation for this is a stab on me down the road from now...

Could you tell me how I'm exploiting Turkey?
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'll move them away, it's just that the previous Russia happened to move his units to my border rather aggressively. So I kept them there as a defensive measure.
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Also France, you're just salty that you won't get your three way.
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Russia, ideally I want to end this as a 2 way. It'll take a lot of trust, and it was the understanding I assumed I had with the previous Russia. Take what I say as you will, I won't betray you if you don't betray me.
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: That's what she said.

But in all seriousness thank you Turkey.
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Yup, 2 way draws are exceedingly rare for a good reason...
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Keep germany alive if possible actually. A 2 way draw is impossible at this stage but i dislike france.
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: What does keeping Germany alive do? Somebody would have 17 and somebody would have 16; presenting the same risks as a 2 way...
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Oh wait, for some reason I thought there was 36 points rather than 34
18 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: Yeah sorry, ignore that.
20 Jun 18 UTC Autumn, 1908: I wonder who'll get the solo.
20 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Russia tbh
21 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: ?
21 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: I really dislike the Smyrna build Turkey...
21 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: I build another boat and saturate the ocean or build another infantry and saturate the land.

I particularly dislike the rumania and vie move.
21 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 1909: Fight! Fight! Fight!
22 Jun 18 UTC Russia, you're gonna be at 16 SP's after this turn, so ideally help me along and stop taking points please.
22 Jun 18 UTC Once you have proven yourself and do to attempt to take one of my SCs I am definitely willing to coordinate.
22 Jun 18 UTC not attempt* instead of to attempt...
22 Jun 18 UTC I'll be happy to attempt ;)
22 Jun 18 UTC But seriously. It's particularly worrying because of the amount of units you diverged to my front, how close you are to winning. Ideally I'd like 1 SP to be sure. Because I don't trust you enough like the other Russia.
22 Jun 18 UTC Russia, I'm opening Belgium and London for you, so you will definitely win as long as you will be able to defend.
22 Jun 18 UTC Get your free solo.
22 Jun 18 UTC Lol France. Either way, it really is hard to do 2-ways. Guess that's an achievement for another day ^_^
22 Jun 18 UTC I hope you've learned your lesson.
22 Jun 18 UTC Nope, I'm gonna keep trying till I get it. I told you it's an achievement. I've gotten 3-ways, a solo, a 4-way and a 5-way. I just need that 2-way.
22 Jun 18 UTC Only thing I really regret is the fact that previous Russia left because I was sure it was gonna work this time.
22 Jun 18 UTC also,

22 Jun 18 UTC I came up with the name
22 Jun 18 UTC It is a quality name, not gonna lie
23 Jun 18 UTC Sorry Turkey, the main problem with 2 way draws is that not only do both countries have to be equal in size but they also have to have a full stalemate line as well. You realized far too late my potential to get to 18 and as a result I soloed.

Anyways, good game!
23 Jun 18 UTC I realized the potential. I just thought you'd be a bit less scummy.
23 Jun 18 UTC Scummy? Turkey, trust me, the moment you got hung up with France and I was blowing through Germany 75% of people would have soloed. You should have said something like this: Hey Russia, you have a great potential to solo so could you perhaps arrange an SC swap? The will almost always say Yes to attempt to keep you thinking that hey want the two way draw.

Usually they stab you, and if your well defended and the 3rd country is reasonable and willing to help you can prevent the solo. Sometimes, though they are genuine
and willing to draw.

Never though, leave a border completely undefended, if you had told me you wanted an SC swap I would have told you "Sure" than proceed to stab you. But because your border wasn't completely undefended and because you forced me to devote units and stab you much sooner than I would have wanted to, if France was reasonable he would have helped you set up the stalemate line.

What doomed you was that you only mentioned to me that I was growing to fast too late and even if you had France probably wouldn't of helped you...
23 Jun 18 UTC Believe me, I understand the fact that literally everyone stabs. I was just hoping for that one game for a good meme
23 Jun 18 UTC I hope you are happy for yourself, we both lost because you refused to get a three-way.
23 Jun 18 UTC Greed blinded you. Not "for the memes". It's like saying "I'll lift up 300 kg " even though you know it is not possible for you to do that. If you want a two-way, then get a private game and do it with friends.
23 Jun 18 UTC Game's over lad, no need to get salty. We've all made our decisions.
23 Jun 18 UTC I'm not salty, I just hope Turkey doesn't try to do that ever again, unless playing with friends.
23 Jun 18 UTC Hell, even friends would still stab you in a situation like that.
23 Jun 18 UTC 'Greed blinded you' - Greed of what? Winning? If I wanted to just solo win I would've eaten Russia ages ago. Also I don't care that I lost, and I most definitely do not care that you lost your precious 3-way either.

I'm not gonna stop trying for it, I will complete my gallery of tie screenshots.
23 Jun 18 UTC @Turkey, if you have the ability to go for a solo you go for the solo! A solo looks better on your stat sheet than a "Draw".
23 Jun 18 UTC ^
23 Jun 18 UTC But I don't care about my stat sheet.
23 Jun 18 UTC Then why do you care about a two-way draw?
23 Jun 18 UTC Me not caring about one thing does not mean I don't care about another thing.

I have a nice folder of screenshots in ascending order of one solo, three way, four way etc up to 6 way. I wanted to complete it. Will be something just for myself.
23 Jun 18 UTC Next time try to get a 7 way
23 Jun 18 UTC Good luck on that one, that is if you aren't gonna play with friends.
23 Jun 18 UTC Trust me, it's fine I'll play a bigger map.
23 Jun 18 UTC It's not legit if it's with friends

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ChippeRock (2564 D)
Won. Bet: 0 D, won: 70 D
18 supply-centers, 14 units
coolcat2310 (168 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
14 supply-centers, 13 units
PhoenixFire (771 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 6 units
JackOfTrades (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Drakon (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
alice777 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
cktaylor (100 D)Germany (Autumn, 1902) with 6 centres.
SniperPig (100 D)Russia (Spring, 1908) with 13 centres.
alice777 (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1902) with 1 centres.
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