Finished: 08 PM Sat 14 Jul 18 UTC
The Big Fall
1 day /phase
Pot: 100 D - Spring, 2011, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Unranked, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
29 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: Fair enough.
29 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: be careful tex
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: be careful tex
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: whoops. my bad peeps
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: Bc, doing a move on the east coast to cover my ass should Florida outmaneuver me. Should be unthreatening but giving you a heads up.
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: You okay Florida?
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: had a reaaalllyyy busy day and missed this :(
30 Jun 18 UTC Spring, 2008: @NY: When taxes and BC go with you. You do not need to think about Florida anymore.
01 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: @BC Need any support?
01 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: think maybe i will support you by cut support hold from GoC.
01 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: Other, not much. Just help me to go to the south faster and faster.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: I'm fine with drawing once Florida is out, especially if they're going to CD. Not much fun (or fair) being able to pick up those SCs without opposition by their holders.
02 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: That is fair.
03 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: @Texas and Ny: Let me some pie at the south. I am hungry :)). We go to the draw soon.
03 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2008: Hey, New York, if you let me take Georgia I'll high five you.

I was allies with Florida but if they CD there's no point anymore.
04 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2009: Texas/BC/NYC: Mexico has fallen, it is only a matter of time. What can I do to not have you all fall on me like a ton of bricks?
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: I suggested that you take action years ago and you are only just now taking that said action. I can only recommend taking action against your neighbors but I no longer have any guarantees.
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: BC: Where are you targeting next? I can offer assistance if you need it.
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Texas: I'm going for the draw since the CD in Florida threw things unfairly.

Peru: Texas is the only player that's in any position to attack you. I have no plans to move further south, though we should discuss our strategy in Cuba. I'm more than fine with letting you take all of it.
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Texas: I just want to be friends.
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: @NY: I just put up my draw order.

@Peru: I understand; I respect that you finally moved and followed my wishes so I will not attack you.

@BC: I understand that you crave the south but now you have bordered me with units on 6 tiles. Would you mind rectifying that in some way to make it a more manageable number? I have 3 and clearly have no intention of attacking you. Can you reciprocate that?
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Also, my vote to draw is now up and we can hopefully have a 4-way draw.
06 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: (although it depends on the situation, at least 5-way)
08 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Hey, NY, I was hoping to bounce in Georgia but I ended up walking in. Do you particularly covet Georgia?
08 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: (Apologies if I'm pushing anyone out of the messaging board: This is my fifth message in a row)

@BC: I understand that you are eager to begin expanding south and I am willing to assist you. How can I assist you in your expansions (where are you expanding) and how can we make this non-threatening?
08 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: I am fine with current plan now. We can move together
08 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Texas, you can keep Georgia. I'm focused on getting Florida out.
08 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: Texas, you can keep Georgia. I'm focused on getting Florida out.
08 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2009: New York, if you need backup in the Caribbean I'm ready and able to assist you. Maybe I can swap a territory with you in exchange of moving out of Georgia as it's a combination of my overextension and it's splitting you in two.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: OK, I am willing to give you guys a four way tie... but you better accept now before I change my mind.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Peru: I am very excited about you. What will happen if you change your mind?
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: You. Do. Not. Want. To. Know.

I came in as a replacement, went from 2 - 7.

Last warning.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Oh, Let see! I am so excited about it! It should be really exciting.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Fair enough, your decision is made! We will dine on Salmon and Putine in Vancouver!
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: I'm willing for the tie... Is there something I'm missing here? I'm confused.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: As confused as texas here, especially with Peru's move to my occupied Dominican Republic and the Triangle.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Yeah. It might be best to be on our guard as there hasn't been any clarification yet.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: My draw vote is in. I just figure bouncing is always a safe option. Let me know if I need to modify. As a replacement who started with 2 SCs I would be delighted to draw.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Can I ask what you meant earlier?
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: I assumed BC+NY+TX where going to steamroller me. I was cracking jokes. If we can have a draw, that is great.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: My vote to draw has been up for nearly a year now; however, I would at least like to take out my nemeses California and Mexico before drawing. Both have gone silent when I have vocalized myself; interesting. At any rate, give me one year and Mexico will be gone.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Sounds good to me.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Supporting Cayman to Holguin, peru.
09 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Roger, moving on Hol.
10 Jul 18 UTC Spring, 2010: Bit late but I am moving to Strait of Florida and Gulf of Honduras to double as a defense blanket against Florida and aggression towards Florida. They threaten only one allied SC, which proves my intention with the four against the rest.
11 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2010: Moving on Havana and keeping what I hold in the Gulf/Straits unless otherwise requested not to.
12 Jul 18 UTC Autumn, 2010: Holding in place, waiting for Florida to disband so we can all vote draw
13 Jul 18 UTC GG
13 Jul 18 UTC Good game all! It was fun and thanks for the game. Thanks for believing in me.

Sorry, Mexico. I honestly didn't think that my strategy paid off and I only really won due to the NMRs from both old Mexico in California. I was surprisingly close to a loss and only really succeeded because of that. GG
13 Jul 18 UTC I honestly thought everyone was just going to dogpile me for the three-way draw. Thanks for letting me through.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

New-York
zerosignal (174 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
Texas
Magnetic24 (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
British-Columbia
nguyenmt (5419 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Peru
yellowfin (143 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
California
neonpogotank (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Florida
GeneralGratton (1791 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Heartland
MThor (184 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Mexico
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Quebec
Easyman (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Cuba
Nurelya (227 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
ormi (100 D)Mexico (Spring, 2005) with 7 centres.
mikolaj420 (662 D)Florida (Autumn, 2008) with 4 centres.
Jacob63831 (160 D)Quebec (Spring, 2001) with 7 centres.
brandon1211 (0 D X)Florida (Autumn, 2001) with 4 centres.
Briccio (414 D)Peru (Spring, 2002) with 4 centres.
Fish"-" (100 D)Peru (Autumn, 2000) with 4 centres.
Tacticalgeek (87 D X)British-Columbia (Autumn, 1999) with 4 centres.
GeneralGratton (1791 D)Florida (Autumn, 2010) with 0 centres.
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