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Finished: 04 AM Tue 22 May 18 UTC
Private 2018 World Cup Group C FP2
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Unranked, Wait for orders
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well, go for it!
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: Ok. Will vote pause after this phase.
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: I'm putting my pause vote in. I feel like everyone's job over the pause is to figure out how to stop Austria from soloing
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: lol
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany has just as many centers and even a center over the stalemate line.
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: Fair point. Stop both of them? I just think we need some public talks about solo opportunities and have everything in the open
19 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: I'd be fine with just getting into a draw. Talk about solos, draws, and stalemate lines now seems premature. That said, a solo here is improbable. This game is too well balanced between France, Germany, and Austria. I actually think the best chance for a solo in this game is France. You will soon control all of England. If you can get Germany to attack me (to stop the dangerous Austrian or some such nonsense) once we start fighting each other, you then stab Germany and try for 18.
21 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1904: It amuses me that one could envision German forces soloing. Anyway, I’ll send press later. Travelling, and I had the impression we’d be paused by now.
21 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Hey, aren’t we pausing? Russia...?
21 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Hey just checking in very briefly. Russia can you pause?
21 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: You can ask a mod to pause you.
21 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: *pause the game for you
22 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Yes sry
23 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): All pauses should go through me. That way you don't have to worry about votes.
23 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): And so I can track how much of guaranteed pause time each player is using
23 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): And gunboat during pauses.
24 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused
25 Apr 18 UTC Spring, 1905: Oh, no longer paused! So, I’m travelling. I’ll message you all as soon as I wake up. That is, hopefully, in 7-8 hours. Sorry! I totally forgot France requested a pause until Monday.
28 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Ggwp.
28 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: Good game England
28 Apr 18 UTC Autumn, 1905: gg
05 May 18 UTC Spring, 1907: Sorry for the delay! Miscalculated the remaining time.
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Good game, Italy.
09 May 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Good game Italy and Russia. It was fun
10 May 18 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yes, and Russia too.
10 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Well I guess this is the time to find out who was telling the truth. Everyone good to draw?
10 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Let's play a couple turns first. I'd like to see Germany get back into second.
10 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I call BS. You have been pushing for me to take Belgium and push against Germany. You have constantly been saying you were going to vote draw as soon as this turn ended. I think you see Germany didn't build armies and think you can take advantage of that and go for a solo. I don't think this is gonna end well for you if you try go for that.
10 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: I plan to vote for the draw. I just want to play a couple more turns first.
11 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Why? What are you looking to gain from it?
11 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: The Captain of our team wants me to play a couple more turns. Just being a good teammate. What's the harm?
11 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: Well, that's acceptable, for instance, is s/he wants our game to last a while longer, in order not to affect other results, or so that you might know from other results whether or not to pursue an unlikely solo. In this case, I wouldn't mind particularly sitting around, if your forces are deployed in a non-threatening way.

However, if that is the reason, why not simply ask for three consecutive pauses? Or two. You and I have not requested pauses yet.
11 May 18 UTC Spring, 1908: He wants me to push forward and see if I can set up a stalemate line. I think it's something like keep playing because IF our team makes the next round, he wants me to be a better player.
12 May 18 UTC Good moves. I can see why people say this game gets tense in the end game.What do you guys think about a pause at this point?
12 May 18 UTC For how long? If you request a pause I believe we have to agree. Goldfinger requested that pauses go through them so that they can set the game to gunboat and keep track of how many pauses are used
12 May 18 UTC Though if you weren't voting draw so that you could get practice then I don't see how a pause gives you more practice. But ultimately I guess that is up to you
12 May 18 UTC Germany made a good suggestion earlier. The pause gives us more time to evaluate what's going on in the other games. I guess if your team is doing really excellently, you might be opposed to the draw. Are you objecting?
12 May 18 UTC No I don't have strong feelings. I don't think a pause really changes the facts of this game much.
12 May 18 UTC Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Pauses going through me are to use your guaranteed pause time, and so I can track how much guaranteed pause time is used. Plus, sometimes it's better to not know who is requestinf. If you all agree amongst yourselves, I don't need to be involved.
13 May 18 UTC Frankly, I find it futile to drag the game any further. There is no conceivale way for Austria to conquer anything past Warsaw and Moscow. So, even if the other results make it necessary for you to solo, you won't. As is it stands now, and considering our outcome can't be altered, drawing now, as the result is sure to happen and other games are also anonymous, will have literally no impact whatsoever on other games.

Anyway, I have no opinion on pausing, even though I think we should simply draw.
13 May 18 UTC Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Paused until next Saturday
19 May 18 UTC Moderator: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused
20 May 18 UTC Can we just draw now?
20 May 18 UTC If possible, I would prefer to see how the other games turn out. The three of us will draw. "Be cool, Yolanda."
20 May 18 UTC I just don't understand how the outcome of other games effects th is one since we are clearly lined up for a draw
20 May 18 UTC Hey, I understand what you're thinking. You can try to solo, but that's unlikely to succeed. If you knew the other games' results, you'd know better what to do.

Regrettably, though, this game is no longer open to different outcomes. You can't conquer Tunis, Munich, Berlin or St. Petersburg. There is literally no way you can conquer any of these. Hence, you can't get past 16.

The only alternative would be for France to attack me, looking for a 2-way, which would probably for me to throw the game to you. However, France is extremely unlikely to do this, due to the just-mentioned likely outcome. I'm sorry to tell you this, but if your comrades need anything more than a 3-way draw, you'll not be able to deliver, and mostly, it's not your fault! I mean, you've reached the best possible common outcome other than a solo.Great! You've done wonders for your team.

Waiting to know what outcome you would need is fruitless, because you can no longer change the end result here.
20 May 18 UTC I'll try to explain. First, I'm not sure that even with this board result, my team would advance. If another game is finishes, then the teams that scored points in the other game will be revealed. If yours and Germany's team are not in that other board draw, I'd feel better about settling for an immediate draw. I could get here, at most, only two more points in this game. Will those two points make a difference? Probably not. But if, for example, your team has scored a bunch of points in the other game(s), it might make sense for Germany and I to collaborate and try to minimize your score here. That is just an example. The same might be true for you and Germany, or you and I.

Have you used your pause yet?
20 May 18 UTC You persuaded me. Good game, y'all.
20 May 18 UTC Hey, nice to see who you two are, as I had already played both! Congratulations on the result, and hope to see both in the Finals!
20 May 18 UTC Ya this was a fun game. Well played.

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