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Finished: 04 PM Mon 18 Dec 17 UTC
Modern Madness-2
14 hours /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 2003, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: If you guys are still interested in doing the convoy order let me know.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: If you move out of Israel and my army in Algeria is successfully moved there via convoy (and thus completing my holy crusade) then I'd be down to allow you to draw with us.

Italy, Russia, Poland, thoughts? I'm putting in the Algeria to Israel order.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Fine... I'm just tired of this game to be a little honest
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: No hear back from Turkey. I'm moving into Eastern Med in case we need to complete the crusade ourselves.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Yeah let's draw. It's been pretty boring.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: My draw vote is in. Turkey, Russia, Britain, we're just waiting to hear back from you. I'm still moving to take the Eastern Med so we can convoy if need be.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: My armies will continue their march on georgia as retribution for not allowing my syrian army to return home, but my draw vote is already in.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Russia, you can move Iraq to Serbia and we can convoy from there next turn instead.

Otherwise if you want to continue your march against me then I will continue my fight against you in every which way possible. Preferably I would like you guys to back off so I can do the convoy order.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Are you saying you would threaten to refuse Britain's convoy order and the possibility of not drawing this game on the next turn for one territory?
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Britain's not attacking me (At least not yet) so I don't have a problem with him. I don't understand why he doesn't just convoy to Syria instead of Israel (I feel like he's pulling the wool over my eyes on that one).

One territory? You make it seem like you attacked my predecessor because he refused to submit the convoy order. But in actuality you, Italy, & Austria attacked him simply because he NMR'ed & eventually CD'd.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: I would love to do the convoy order but not when those units can help lessen the damage from a country attacking me.

Britain, you say you want to convoy to Israel for proof that I'm actually going to do the convoy order. But face it, 4v1, the only reason why I would not let the convoy order go through is if you guys continue your attack on me, which Russia indicates he will continue to do.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Also Britain, it makes more sense for Russia to simply move back to Syria since we are convoying to Murmansk after all. Which is his territory.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Italy, Britain, Russia, & Austria: I will do the convoy as long as you guys don't make any aggressive moves against me. I don't know about you guys but this seems reasonable enough to me. Since why should I allow the convoy to go through if you continue your attack against me.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Britain, I will support your convoy to Syria unless Russia indicates that he will move there.

As I've stated before, 51 SCs vs 13 SCs, unless your trying to pull the wool over my eyes I simply can't beat all of you.

Hopefully you guys will return my SCs back to me unharmed.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: You've apparently missed a big chunk of our discussion Turkey. Britain has been wanting to go on a crusade to israel for a while. I think he had settled into not doing it at the notion that we would be able to pull off the Syria to Murmansk convoy.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: So why don't we do the Syria to Murmansk convoy? Murmansk is yours after all...
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: We can do it after I take the Eastern Med, then draw. This is getting too difficult to organize at this point... especially since we haven't heard from Britain in a while as to whether or not he still wants his crusade into Israel.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: I will stay my hand until the end of the year and if you refuse the offer of a draw by withholding Britain from their Holy mission into Israel it may be all out war against you.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Why do you need to take Eastern Med? I really don't understand how to alleviate your concerns about my loyalty. You guys have already proven you will attack me if I don't comply. Heck we can even convoy my army in Israel this turn to Murmansk. What do you guys think?
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: I can't support a convoy to Israel if Italy is going to take Western Med. Besides, what's wrong about convoying from Syria?
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Nothing is wrong with convoying my army from syria to murmansk. The refusal of an ally's long sought after quest is the problem.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: we are talking about peace after a few concessions from a newly entered, not yet trusted, player.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Well if Austria & you back out of Rumania & Rostov I will be able to handle the loss of Israel. But again, if Italy takes Eastern Med, I can't convoy to Israel. Simple as that.
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: The order is in for my holy crusade.

Again, as long as that completes, i'm happy. Having a bit of fun before drawing
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Hey, Italy is the one that thought that the convoy to Israel would work even if he took Eastern Med.

Also, you know what, you guys really don't seem that friendly towards me and the convoy...
15 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: But if you guys want to convoy Israel to Murmansk I'm fine with that.
16 Dec 17 UTC Autumn, 2002: Okay... now... who is going where? Are we crossing the Med into Israel for Britain, or are we going to try this giant convoy to Murmansk?
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: Either way. I reinforced in Murmansk if we wanted to try convoying it right away, but I will lean on Britain for the decision since he was now also foiled.
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: Poland. would you like western black sea?
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: Yes pls
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: So have we put the holy crusade on hold?
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: If Turkey moves Israel to Jordan and Syria to Israel, then we can convoy Murmansk to Syria and complete this all... then draw.
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: My vote is as follows: Israel moves to Sinai, repainting the last bit of Egypt. Adana moves to Anatolia, and Syria moves to Adana. Algeria is convoyed to Israel, completing the Holy Crusade. Following that, we send Murmansk to Syria for great justice and draw. We still finish by 2004. I will put in the Algerian convoy order.
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: I'm on board. Will you be on board Turkey?
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: Algeria to Israel convoy orders in
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: I'm moving on Bulgaria
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: For great justice
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: Just saying but Cairo & Red Sea can also repaint Sinai. But if England wants to do the move to Israel himself then that is what he shall have.
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: Austria your making me nervous that you don't want to draw...
16 Dec 17 UTC Spring, 2003: I totally want to draw, I'm just unclear on the plan
16 Dec 17 UTC Austria, we've got a draw in sight. Please pull back on your attack.
16 Dec 17 UTC I've got my draw vote in btw.
16 Dec 17 UTC Convoy order to syria from murmansk is in.
16 Dec 17 UTC Same.
16 Dec 17 UTC THE HOLY CRUSADE COMPLETES!

Let the great Convoy begin!
17 Dec 17 UTC GLORIOUS VICTORY!!!

My draw order is in. I know a couple of you found this game boring but I had tons of fun. Thanks to all of you (even you, new Turkey!) for possibly my favorite game of Diplomacy.
17 Dec 17 UTC I had a blast. Good game everyone
17 Dec 17 UTC I've voted draw as well.
17 Dec 17 UTC Good game you guys
17 Dec 17 UTC Good game! You guys could of eliminated me so I'm happy you guys let me into the party!

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Britain
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
17 supply-centers, 16 units
Italy
ESCOBAR (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Russia
Horris (130 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Poland
rudekker (584 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 20 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Turkey
ChippeRock (2564 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 20 D
9 supply-centers, 10 units
Egypt
Bloggiesmalla (235 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
France
List Cornel (121 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Germany
lambda (2178 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Spain
sunsnap (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Ukraine
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Nathan the Wise (0 D X)France (Spring, 1998) with 2 centres.
Blextos (30 D)Turkey (Spring, 2002) with 13 centres.
xxX_pssyslayer_Xxx (100 D)Ukraine (Autumn, 1996) with 0 centres.
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