Finished: 11 PM Thu 20 Jul 17 UTC
Live Gunboat-Chitty chitty bang bang
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 203 D - Spring, 1913, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 Jul 17 UTC good game
20 Jul 17 UTC Good game
20 Jul 17 UTC Good game. France, why did you agree to the draw? A stalemate line was not yet established. Personally I was frightened by the lack of armies in Russia.
20 Jul 17 UTC Please use the ready button. That is all.
20 Jul 17 UTC If in Spring, 1912, Russia would have moved Silesia to Warsaw and Bohemia to Silesia, and Turkey would habe moved Tyrolia to Bohemia and Trieste to Bohemia, then a stalemate line would have been established. (Bohemia support hold Tyrolia (or support moves Trieste in Tyrolia), Silesia and Prussia support hold Berlin, Warsaw and Moscow support hold Livonia.) But this didn't happen. As a result, you could each turn guess for Livonia and Berlin to fully attack, and eventually you would have gotten in one of these territories, from which you would have gotten the other. Russia would have had to disband an army and you would then have been able to either take Warsaw or Moscow, as these territories could then be not sufficiently defended.
20 Jul 17 UTC Of course, you would have attacked Berlin from Munich in this scenario so that your support won't be cut. Burgundy would go to Munich with support of Rihr, and Piedmond would attack Tyrolia to cut support.
Not that I mind the draw.
20 Jul 17 UTC This is all correct, but Italy, why didn't you take Piedmont to prevent Tyrolia from being cut?
20 Jul 17 UTC That is true. I could, and should, have done that. I guess I was too busy looking at other players than at my own country... Sorry! Still, would there have been a true stalemate line if I had done that?
20 Jul 17 UTC I think so. You could have held Piedmont with support from Tuscany. And then Munich could not have moved to Berlin, or else Bohemia would get into Munich. Prussia would be free to support Livonia. That should do it...
20 Jul 17 UTC I guess the only issue is I'd need a guy in Bohemia to hold Munich, but probably could have slid Silesia down and sac'd Berlin, Berlin retreats to Silesia.
20 Jul 17 UTC Ehh... maybe not
20 Jul 17 UTC Yeah, France could have been able to take Livonia then. Perhaps it could all lead to a stalemate, but it is a tricky one. :p
20 Jul 17 UTC I drew because of the scoring set up. Maybe I'm wrong but Ithought that it'd be a draw score no matter what.
20 Jul 17 UTC No, if you would've gotten to 18 you would have gotten the whole pot. 'Draw-size scoring' means that IF the game ends in a draw, the pot is split equally amoung the surviving players.
20 Jul 17 UTC ^ I think I misunderstood what you meant when I wrote that.
20 Jul 17 UTC Modern gunboat live:

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This is gonna be a super fun one!!!!

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France
PKissinger (312 D)
Drawn. Bet: 29 D, won: 51 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
Roadhog (137 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 29 D, won: 51 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Russia
speudebradeos (287 D)
Drawn. Bet: 29 D, won: 51 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
Mercy (2124 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 51 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
England
Cascade398 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 29 D
Germany
DJChaos (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Austria
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
SamWest (100 D)Germany (Autumn, 1911) with 1 centres.
svkrIs (1396 D)Italy (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
Cascade398 (100 D)England (Spring, 1909) with 2 centres.
jalwiz (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1903) with 1 centres.
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