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Finished: 03 PM Thu 29 Dec 16 UTC
Turtles, Turtles, Turtles...
1 day /phase
Pot: 140 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, Rulebook press, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
09 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: there is a reason why France wants to draw...
09 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: Yes, there is. It's because you were able to pull the others together to stop my solo attempt. You win, I can't solo as long as you all are united. So, there is no longer a need to try, it is obvious.
A draw is what you wanted, right? Or are you changing your mind?
09 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: Of course, I can pull my draw vote if that is what is making you suspicious.
You do understand that the longer you try to hold a coalition together, the more chance there is that it starts to fragment.
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: well it's getting stronger as Turkey stopped attacking Austria :-)
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: East Med to ION with support from Greece and Aegean Sea looks very strong!
Then Napels or Tunis will fall with a littel luck…
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: I will grant that if you all make a pact to remove me from the game, it will certainly work. But then what? 4 way draw? Or does someone else make a stab at a solo? Russia, you look to be the strongest right now if that becomes the case. And I always believe you should go for the solo first. If you can't get that, then a draw. If you can't get that, then try to decide who wins. Russia, right now, I can decide that you get a solo. Interested?
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Lets just see where this goes…without all the BS .-)
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Yes, France could share the pot :-)
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: We can always draw when everybody is above our original bet … 4 or 5 way
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: What bet?
10 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: You bet 20 points to start this game
12 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1908: 13, 12, 11.....
12 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1908: Ah, England is a taunter...

Fair enough.
12 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1908: 10, 9...
13 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: You know, Austria, Turkey, and Russia could all form an alliance and wipe England and myself out easily. You guys should save yourselves some time and do so.
13 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: It's not like we will make up and work together against you.
17 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1910: 8, 7, 6, 5....
18 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1910: How about we all draw and just end this.
18 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1910: France dosent want to draw
19 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1910: England and Austria doesn't want to draw.
19 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1910: what a strange game...
20 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1911: This is such a childish game…
22 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1912: You may quit anytime your senses are offended.
22 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1912: Ohh yes I know but I am too amused...
22 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1912: Then hang in there, it'll all be over at some point.
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: Let's be clear about this, England. France offered a draw, and you alone rejected it. You weren't sitting here between adversarial Turkey and France. As far as I am concerned, as soon as France was done, you were going to be looking for who's next. And that was likely to be me. Turkey was stuck in a corner, pretty well boxed up. Did you think he would be content to stay there? So, I will tell you my strategy: MAKE ENGLAND LOSE! Or, you could always draw. Turkey still has one.
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: I play to win and for ranking and for fun but I never belittel myself to play for other to lose. When I offered the draw on your request you refused…and desided to off yourself…suit yourself. Like Turkey or France or anyone else I deside when I want to draw…and that is my choise alone…
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: Your ally, Russia, might want to listen to what you are saying...
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: I personally am working to ensure Turkey gets a good shot at a solo.
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: I suggest Austria do the same.
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: Good for Turkey! We will see if your mathematics add up…
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: It's really odd, it's like playing with people who do not want to play and instead of quitting and being replaced they want to control the game by 'choosing' who DESERVE to win. It seems a twisted morality to me. I play to win too, solo if I can, good alliances and Draws, I deeply despised bad stabs, but I respect someone who doesn't want to Draw.
23 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: *by bad stab, I entend stupid and useless ones. The ones leading to victory, I respect them as they are part of the unexpected fun of the game.
24 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: I'm still in favor of a draw all around. It's not fun "winning" when players cede territory and let you walk in.
24 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1912: as we are both on the Draw button, we could start that Jug we didn't do :-)
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: I highly recommend the Jug.
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: Who are you? Ah yeah the guy with 1sc left :-)
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: No Jug for me please, I am good thanks ,-)
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: You know what England said that Austria was my lap dog at one point which is funny because we haven't coordinated strategy or moves. But really by definition Russia seems to be the perfect little hairless lap dog for England
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: They are so close and so tight that I've actually had to think about contacting the moderator to investigate whether they were multiplayers
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: And if everyone is so upset by my style of play at the end of the game perhaps one of you should have thrown me a Lifeline so tha wasn't four players against one with no
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: End in sight until after I had made moves of desperation. So you guys can just take all of the actions at the end of the game and place it squarely on your own shoulders
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: Or if that doesn't appeal to you perhaps you should just read The Art of War.
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: In your perspective, a strong alliance is immediately related to cheating... That says plenty. But read the rules and not only the art of war, accusations on global aren't acceptable on this platform.
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: Bitter is indeed the pill of defeet…and it is so easy to look beyond ones own shortcommings to seek the fault of this defeat…
26 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1913: But a cadeau in disquise non the less…
27 Dec 16 UTC Good fun as always when tempers run high :-)
No hard feelings and happy new year - see you on the flip side...
27 Dec 16 UTC That was a weird game. Thank you France for keeping it entertaining ;-)
27 Dec 16 UTC Good game, I look forward to seeing all of you again as friend or foe. :)
28 Dec 16 UTC It was an interesting game. Good luck in future campaigns.

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Turkey
kp1013 (146 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 86 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Andersbearman (391 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 28 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Russia
0k0k0 (4755 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 28 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
France
Buzzle (1531 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Italy
q23 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Germany
damo666 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Austria
Jefe (100 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
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