Finished: 08 AM Fri 02 Sep 16 UTC
Desert Turtle
12 hours /phase
Pot: 350 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by CSteinhardt (9555 D (B))
12 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 1902: Moderator: (peterwiggin): Two of the players in this game realized after it started that they know each other (they pm each other games they join to avoid joining the same games, but one of them didn't do a good job checking his pms). I do not believe that they are cheating or intend to cheat. If you would like to cancel, please email Otherwise, we'll just play on.
01 Sep 16 UTC Congrats Russia, I still don't know why on earth France and britain kept attacking me while leaving you grow...
01 Sep 16 UTC I don't know why France kept taking my units until Russia was able to break the stalemate. I guess he thought it was ppsc?
01 Sep 16 UTC Also Germany, from Spring 06 onwards I'd stopped trying to fight you, I just thought you were going to use Denmark to help in the north!
02 Sep 16 UTC Good game. Not sure I deserved to win -- I misordered badly and cost two centers, as otherwise the tactics should have been more straightforward. However, I don't think there was actually a stalemate, regardless of what France did in the north. I probably shouldn't have Liverpool and Norway. However, my roaming fleet in the north requires several French fleets to track down, which ultimately means that a Rome/Naples line cannot be held from the West. I made it much more difficult by misordering and costing myself Norway/Warsaw a few years back, but I think it was always going to end up as a win unless I made at least one and probably two more turns of major mistakes.
02 Sep 16 UTC The stalemate needed one of MUN and BER, but it existed. It also needed me to get to STP which should have been easy to do, but was much harder with 2 units than with 4. France needed to stop fighting you for German SCs and stop taking mine if we wanted a chance.
02 Sep 16 UTC Congrats Russia. The first mistake I made was by joining a 12h game... I only missed one DL, but it was quite severe.
Wouldn't have been able to stop Russia, who had it way too easy in Germany and the North early on. My second mistake was to let Russia benefit too much from the Steamroller. It was due to that lately I have been assigned Turkey (way too) often and again and again I had big trouble with getting Russia to understand that an RT would benefit us both.
Suddenly Russia was on 13 and no real opposition, hence the attack. At a very poor moment, but it was necessary. "Waiving" two build wasn't necessary though...
The game lasted way much longer than anticipated and I enjoyed some of the tactics, though, as pointed out, there were no stalemate lines to go for anyway...
Surprised when France unvoted Draw and started to attack me, but I assume it was a sign of bad patience.
Thanks for the game!
03 Sep 16 UTC Congrats to Russia and good game everyone!!

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CSteinhardt (9555 D (B))
Won. Bet: 50 D, won: 350 D
19 supply-centers, 17 units
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Seichuto (308 D)
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