Finished: 03 PM Wed 10 Feb 16 UTC
Black Sheep Wall-7
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by lepanto22 (335 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: France, I'm deeply grateful for your partnership in the matter of England, and for your alliance in general. I am moving to Holland again, but this time would greatly appreciate landing there. I am, of course, in your hands.

Russia, thank you as well for your assistance against England. Further thanks for understanding my defensive moves in Scandinavia. In return, please let me know if you'd like any support from Munich in Tyrolia. I'll be happy to help.
22 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: I will appreciate if you stop attacking me Germany (even if I understand it) and if you want to attack Tyrolia fell free to do so, that will help Italy more than me but still.
23 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: Well, good game all. I await the outcome. My money is on Russia though. Russia or France.
24 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Germany can you attack Tyrolia?
24 Jan 16 UTC Spring, 1907: No problem.
25 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: France, I'll move my Yorkshire fleet to London if you'll retreat from the Channel. Let me know.
25 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sure, moving to the Channel was purely defensive.
25 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thanks
28 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany, what are you doing again in Yorkshire?
28 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: A defensive move only, France. Covering Edinburgh, in case I got into Norway and Barents got into Norwegian Sea. Heading back to London now.
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Hi France. Youreturn to north and I leave you in peace. I use Tyrolia to try to attack Germany or give you support move... what about?
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Turkey I hope you can see that by attacking me I won't be able to stop Germany in the north, and I'm sure you won't grow faster that him
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: *Sigh*

What did I tell you? I was gone for all of a year and then he stabs you.
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Sorry. Is it bad form for me to send press after I've been eliminated?
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Not at all Britain, the only thing I didn't expect was Germany also attacking France.
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: That and me missing one turn...
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Well I thought he would be crazy if he started a conflict with all his neighbours so I didn't defend at all and now I'll pay for it. It's time to join forces and check wether his action was stupid or not.
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm not convinced the stab was a great idea, France, or even a good one, but so be it. England foretold it so, and so I obeyed. :) Best to all. This will be fun.
29 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany: Trying to look at this as an outsider, stabbing an trustful, serious and not threatening ally in this phases of the game is probably a mistake. If you would have taken 2 or 3 sc is another story, but for only one is not worth it in my humble opinion.

The only way I can try and stop Germany is if I have total cooperation and peace with Turkey.
So Turkey, let's put aside our differences and let me fight Germany in the north. If not we will be fighting while Germany gets to big to be stopped. What do you say?
30 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Russia, I agree with most of what you say. If you had told me I would win 4 SCs from a set of moves in which I was only guaranteed one, I would have said you're crazy. Whether and when to stab is different in every game, for every player. And luck plays a huge role. I did what I did, and here we are.

The object of the game is clear: be the first player to 18 SCs. I don't expect to be board leader for long, and in fact have a sneaking suspicion that soon I will be joining you to keep Turkey from 18. Until then, good luck!
30 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: So Turkey, I need an answer to see what to destroy
30 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Russia, I’m not interested in weakening you further if it only leads to Turkey getting stronger. If you disband the two northern units, I’ll focus my efforts elsewhere.
30 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: The thing is you are the one who will get stronger if France and I don't do anything
30 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Fighting Turkey will only benefit you
31 Jan 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: And fighting me will only benefit Turkey, who has a real shot at taking this board now, due to the surprising outcome of last turn. France and Italy are going to fight me now. France has no choice, certainly. But you do. My gains (if any!) will be very slow against them. Take advantage. My offer stands. I leave it to you.
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Turkey are you winning? You will never beat Italy and me on time to prevent a solo win from Germany. Please stop fighting me and let me try and stop Germany.

France, Italy: Am I the only one who see this? I want to stop Germany but I can't. Please say something to make Turkey reconsider
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: You are right. We should work together. Anyone need a hand?
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Maybe a support move to Tyrolia?
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Well, I can't do anything right now. No one supported me when it was needed and Italy even helped Germany taking Tunis so... I think now it's too late.

Germany will have won after this year, try to survive with as much as you can.
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: If I move everything against Germany we can delay him, but I can do that if Turkey doesn't decide to help
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: France, what should I do? Leave Tunis 4u? You left england 4 Germany, I could nor understand this... but OK. Let´s try to see for future. We need to stop england. I want to help you now, but looking for turkey movements I guess I can´t do this.
02 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1909: Italy, if you had hold in Western Mediterranean Germany would now be stuck in MAO and Marseilles. Now I hae to destroy something and whatever I destroy allows Germany to end up with me and reach the Mediterranean.

I think there was a huge lack of communication throughout the whole game and now we are seeing the effect miscommunication has.
05 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Well, at the risk of sounding repetitive, I want to urge Turkey to just speak up and say to me: "Let's go after Germany, I'll leave you alone"
Germany can win next autumn, so please Turkey say something. Even if you plan only on stabbing me, I just can't believe how are you making all the work for Germany and allowing him to grow just win a couple of sc or get back at me I guess.
There is still time to stop or at least try to stop Germany if you let me put up a wall on Russia
05 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Turkey, are you really going to let Germany win just so you can get a few more points? Really? I hope you know that no one remember second place. You're hope of winning right now is to help against Germany. Russia's right, help him, let him get back on his feet, and *then* you backstab him. Attacking him right now isn't doing you any good, it's just making you look bad and giving someone else the win.
05 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Go team Not-Germany!
05 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Kemal Atatürk , what are your plans?
05 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Well Turkey congratulations on giving away this game to Germany. You can't take any sc from me and Germany will take this turn at least another 2.
Well played
06 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1910: Oh, that's right! This is still a winner-take-all situation! Good work Turkey. You just lost.
08 Feb 16 UTC Turkey you have to learn to play. Because this turn you are going to lose just as I am.
08 Feb 16 UTC And also if you don't want to talk, play a gunboat game.
08 Feb 16 UTC Tunis, Spain and Vienna will fall. So well played Germany.

I think I made one big mistake in the early game: I shouldn't had taken Norway from Britain, Britain could had lasted a lot more. And maybe also I refused to a Jug, I don't think it would had worked in the late game giving the quietness of Turkey but still.
09 Feb 16 UTC There is one chance left. But it requires Turkey and Italy to be on board with the plan.

Turkey:
A Rum-gal
A ser s A bud
A bud s A Tri-vie
A Tri-vie
F ADR-Tri
A Sev-mos

Italy:
A Ven-tyr
F LYO s F Spa
F Tun-WES

Russia:
A mos-war
A ukr s A mos-war

Help me, Obi-Last-Ditch-Plan-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope!
09 Feb 16 UTC Otherwise:
power overwhelming
10 Feb 16 UTC Good game all, and good win Germany. Russia and France, my respect to you as well. I hope to play with y'all in the future.
10 Feb 16 UTC Good win Germany, you definitely deserve it.
10 Feb 16 UTC Thanks a lot, guys. Good game! I didn't expect to launch an all-out German assault on England and live to tell the tale. That was cool and VERY unusual. Special thanks to Turkey for his ceaseless aggression. I couldn't have done it without him!
10 Feb 16 UTC Kemal Ataturk...
10 Feb 16 UTC At least I survived
11 Feb 16 UTC That you did Italy, and well done there.

You didn't expect to survive? Maybe I am just that bad as England. Huh. I guess I need to play a few more games as the British to find out.
11 Feb 16 UTC I thought Germany and France would attack me. They were allied

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Germany
lepanto22 (335 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
TannerL33 (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
Italy
masopias (95 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
France
javidtl (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
TartaDeQueso (583 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
England
zorclex (0 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Austria
adva2005 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
Napoleon IV (119 D)Austria (Spring, 1905) with 1 centres.
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