Finished: 08 PM Thu 31 Dec 15 UTC
The Balance of Power
1 day /phase
Pot: 525 D - Autumn, 1914, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Stubie (1817 D)
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: The problem here is that you're dominating England and have a clear blitz going which is impressive... but like history, you've underestimated the world teaming against you and the eastern front.

Sure, I could go after Austria or Italy... but that would only let you finish wiping out England and basically Solo, and I won't be able to stop you. Austria has a strong hand because he knows if I go against him, that you win... Game theory 101. This allows him to divert his entire focus on you and leave the border with me relatively undefended. And as long as he continues to grow as fast as me, and you remain the big threat, he is golden. I'm in an excellent situation as well. I backstabbed them but only while I thought there was a 3 way draw with you England and I. Once I saw the real nature of the game I continued to make sure my hand was strong, but worked with Austria because he's a pragmatist like myself, and now our alliance is far stronger then it ever was because we know how close we are to defeat should we fight each other.

Italy is in a similar situation and has turtled quiet well. He can be defeated but at what cost. Time is the important factor... You're simply gaining CS to quickly. If you wanted Austria and I to back down, the answer is simple... stop gaining CS. At 13 CS (15 after this turn) you're in no danger of being left out of the draw. But with that high CS count, I won't back down and I don't believe Austria will either. It's just game theory man.

The real question is, who is going to get fucked in this game. As you suggest, you want England and Italy to die... Going along with that plan for a second... For us to buy into that, we all need to be equals and have a relatively equal CS share and have the ability to absorb their CS at an equalish rate. That clearly isn't the case. Until balance has been restored I am forced to fight you.

You're best chance is to convince Italy to attack Austria and I and by you more time.. to be your pawn... but I don't think he's that stupid.
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: /rant
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: haha that was meant to be a direct message to Germany. Never the less, I stand by my words.
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Classic, lol
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: But it states the game situation perfectly. We fight amongst ourselves, Germany wins. We fight together, we force a draw.
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Fair cop. Let's see how it pans out. Certainly has made for a fun game you have to give it that.
23 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Ok. What could I do?
It seems it is the result of have not grown enough before this year.
I am not that pragmatic. I would had my pawns survive in the game merely by the fact they were along my side. But points are not so important to me, anyway. I hope you all the best. Germany playing was impressive, congratulations.
23 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: I was surprised you didn't claim Tyrr Sea in Spring 1910, I will say.
23 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: A mistake...
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Indeed Italy. Sorry Mate.
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Italy, I really did want to work with you, but the entire time you kept fighting what Austria and I were suggesting. I could have taken Naples a few turns ago but I didn't because I thought it was better to work with you, but you refused to be cooperative.

Germany may still yet win, It will be a good game.
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Not true. I have been cooperative with Austria, them after he failed me, with you.
At last, I was in a so weak position that I became too vulnerable, so I tried to hold my position, but it didn't work. That's the game. I like it as it is and I have learned a lot.
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: It's one o'clock and time for lunch...
Bum-di-dum-dum...
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Anyone who gets the musical reference gets preferential treatment...everyone else ready up! Lol
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: isn't that an Genesis song?
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Excellent spot! (I assume you didn't google it lol!)
For that you can have Moscow!
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Turkey, let Austria take Moscow, there's a good chap.
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Lame, Mosow was toast anyway ;)
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Well only if I choose it to be! ;)
24 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1911: Well hasn't that upset the apple cart!
25 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Merry Christmas All!
25 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Merry Christmas Everyone!
25 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Merry Christmas :)
25 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Merry Christmas from exile in Finland.
25 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Have you seen Santa Claus ?
Merry Christmas, friends.
26 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: I love how Italy is still in this! Really proves how poorly England has played his hand these last few turns. If the ship is going down, I'm at least getting Tunis out of it, haha.
26 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1911: Woo go Italy
27 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: We all good with a three way draw then?
27 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: NEVER! Oh, wait, you didn't mean me.
27 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: lol - yeah Germany/Turkey/Austria.
27 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: Let's see what Turkey says. Seems he has designs of his own...
27 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: Oh, no! I was just reshaping my strategy to go for a solo...
28 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: I want a 3 way draw. Thats my entire hope. go to mid-atlantic this turn from North Africa and there is nothing England can do about it.
28 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: Glad to have played with you.
28 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: Unlucky Italy Mate! Happy New Year to you.
28 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1912: ->turkey: didn't see that message: was out to dinner with friends, sorry.
29 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1913: Alright, England is defeated. My draw vote is up.
29 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1913: Again ?
29 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1914: wtf was that about?
29 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1914: just covering bases. Who has drawn?
29 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1914: It looks like Spain and Naples remain unresolved.
29 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1914: who cares? there are only three players left.

Turkey, have you drawn?
Germany, have you drawn?
29 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1914: Too much players on the board...
30 Dec 15 UTC I screwed the pooch :(
30 Dec 15 UTC Its ok. THis Germany never intended to draw with us. He's been lying entire time. You really have to look out for players like that and not buy their BS.
30 Dec 15 UTC I don't know about BS, but I can surely spot a case of SG when I see it.
We have all made mistakes in this game: one reason why it has been such an intriguing game. In the end Turkey's mistake was not the most obvious but it was the moat decisive due to its deviciveness.
It has been a fascinating game.
30 Dec 15 UTC Good game all, I goofed up Warsaw/Bohemia.
30 Dec 15 UTC Well played Stub.
I can hard believe this game hasn't ended in a draw.
30 Dec 15 UTC Thanks Mate.
Excellent fun game. Got lucky in the end.
Have a wonderful New Year!
30 Dec 15 UTC Especially pleasing what being my 100th game.

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Germany
Stubie (1817 D)
Won. Bet: 75 D, won: 525 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
Turkey
Survived. Bet: 75 D
9 supply-centers, 10 units
Austria
czechveck (487 D)
Survived. Bet: 75 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
England
Steamy Nicks (2236 D)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
France
baggs (791 D)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
Italy
curupira (3491 D)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
Russia
Creigh (2712 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
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