Finished: 12 AM Sun 26 Jul 15 UTC
Downtown Toronto
18 hours /phase
Pot: 172 D - Spring, 2014, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
29 Jun 15 UTC Autumn, 2003: [South-Africa]:It's the same person
30 Jun 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [India]:i think we could draw this game, what do you think?
30 Jun 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Russia]:I certainly won't complain.
30 Jun 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Brazil]:Neither would i
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [India]:and the rest?
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Near-East]:If that's what everyone else wants
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Ghana]:Dont you guys think it is a little early to call it a draw? Im having fun this game! Cant we wait to see some other people drop before we call it a draw
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Western-Canada]:I agree with Ghana, this game has just started... =)
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Agreed drawing right now is a little premature.
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Brazil]:Indeed. This game is alot of fun
01 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: [Oz]:I'll take my 1 SC draw
06 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2005: GameMaster: respo was banned: repeat multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
06 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2005: [USA]:Wow, who else was he multing? I had big problems with him all game.
06 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2005: [Western-Canada]:You had problems with everyone, Usa.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2006: [Argentina]:Hi all,

About the only way we can stop the Ghana - Antarctica juggernaut is if most of the rest of the board works together. If you are interested, contact me.

P. S. The fact that you are currently allied with Ghana does not mean he won't attack you later on. Trust me.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2006: [Ghana]:Argentina,

I told you to prepare for an attack. I don't know about other players out there, but I consider it weird to do so. There wasn't any trickery involved. That's not the player I am in this game. Considering where my home centers are and how people communicated with me, I figured that the best way for me to expand was to go into South America.

As for the end game, me and my allies already discussed it. I do not mind ending in a draw. It is a world game. It is pretty difficult to go for a win, and I do not intend to do so. I'm not a selfish player. I let my allies have 4 centers in Africa. If you guys don't trust me, go ahead and target me.

P.S. The "Juggernaut" is more than me and Frozen :)
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2006: [Argentina]:You did give me a one turn heads-up, which I appreciate. I chose my words carefully and did not say you stabbed me. However the fact remains that I used to be in your juggernaut until you unilaterally removed me. I sincerely doubt I will be the last ex-juggernaut player.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2006: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Argentina,
I Agree,

You are right. However may the record show that the reason we decided to go after you was not because of your character (because you have been a great Allie), rather we are going after you because of your relationship with Brazil and your position.We spoke well in advance that based on your actions with Brazil our trust with you could be questioned. While you did end up going after Brazil it took a while (and started to suspect that you were a multi, which I now know isn't the case)

Further more, like Ghana I tried to warn you of an attack. While this is a war game there must be some form of integrity. That is why I tried to show you through my actions that I wasn't complying with what we discussed. I did that for several season, hoping that you could see that I couldn't be trusted.

Again, this is nothing personal. Just a case of preferred positioning and you being tied to a bad player early in the game.

Antartica
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Argentina]:Ghana,

Clearly your heart isn't in this attack, or you would have made a lot more progress by now. You say that you do not mind ending the game in a draw. Why not now? It's not like there's anyone still left who hasn't earned their spot.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Ghana]:Argentina,
Are you blind? You have barely any armies made. By just getting 2 in, I already have a good position against you. Frozen will easily take the Southeast Pacific next turn, and when he gets armies in you're done.

As for the draw, I do not think you have earned your spot. You played deceitful, and I saw a few turns ago (Autumn 2005) you tried to cut Frozen's support to stop him from getting San even though you were supposed to be allies. You did these little tricks that you thought would go unnoticed. I didnt think they were a big deal, but for you saying you havent earned your spot?! That is enough for me to think you dont deserve to be in the 5 way draw we are planning. You played a good game and stopped me from advancing quickly, but you know you're going down soon. Please don't do this desperation stuff
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:What about me? Maybe we can start a video chat on skype where you can see me go on my knees and you'll spare me then yes?
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [USA]:Hello I am a ghost.

I'm just happy that Brazil got what was coming to him, despite my very well reasoned warnings to him.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [USA]:Kill Argentina plz, greedy little shit took Mexico when he needed me to be a buffer versus West-Canada and Quebec.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Argentina,

Ghana is right. I will tell you what I told Oz and currently telling India, I never go off of what people say but their actions. that one move to SAN in '05 made you lose my trust instantly. Just go out with some dignity. keep putting up a good fight (maybe if it goes on for too long we might reconsider). But as of right now I see the odds are in our favor (while I anticipated this attack being over sooner, I just needed to readjust my strategy)....You are a smart and good player, don't go out making excuses- not a good look.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Frozen-Antarctica]:@PR same goes to you. Plus we never even spoke so I don't see any kind of an alliance being made between us. This is diplomacy! don't ask to be friends only when you need it. TF is that lol. I am coming after you and India. I was coming for you first but Now I am going for India (pissed me off early in the game!).... I will just let Canada deal with you.

@ USA don't worry he will be gone
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Ghana]:Haha @Pacific Russia that may have worked on me earlier..... If only the game went differently.... Sorry and hope I will have the honor to fight you in a later game!
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:Frozen, you're taking the game a little too seriously ;p Lighten up and just take the joke. You guys are doing great, just leave it at that and leave the drama behind please.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Europe]:I stink, I've been less than truthful, somewhat ignorant, and above all just plain lucky.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Europe]:You think this is drama, try having a wife and 4 girls. Even the cat and dog are female in my house. We had a guinea pig that was male but he died, little shit took the easy way out.
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Hahaha Europe I feel for you. My family is opposite. She has all boy siblings and a boy dog.

@PR yea I take it seriously....But only talk to make things dramatic. Makes things more interesting that way lol. But I feel ya :)
10 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Argentina]:Antarctica,

The move to BAT west coast in Fall 2005 was agreed to in advance. I've copied the dialogue below to refresh your memory. By moving as you did, you cheated me out of BAT, which you had agreed to give me. It was this dishonesty that I thought you were referring to when you said:

That is why I tried to show you through my actions that I wasn't complying with what we discussed. I did that for several season, hoping that you could see that I couldn't be trusted.

Dialogue from 2005:

Autumn, 2004: [You]:Antarctica, It would work out a lot better for me if you supported BAT - San in the spring and I sailed from SE Pacific to the west coast of BAT in the fall. That way I can use SW Atlantic against Brazil. Is that O.K. with you?

Spring, 2005: [Frozen-Antarctica]:let me sleep on it. I need to think everything through first. sound good?
Spring, 2005: [You]:Certainly. Although to be honest, I'm not sure what you have to lose. A fleet on the west coast of BAT is three turns from your nearest center. Thanks again.
Spring, 2005: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Sorry that message was meant for Ghana. Sure I can definitely do that
11 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 2008: [Frozen-Antarctica]:and the walls come down
11 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 2008: [Argentina]:We all knew that was coming. The only excitement left is to see whose the next person tossed from the jug.
11 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 2008: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Oh I knew it. I just wanted to publicly express myself
16 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 2010: [Argentina]:Given that I got tossed from the alliance because Antarctica was confused about which game was which in the Sanae incident, perhaps we could save a little time and just end it here?
20 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Western-Canada]:I salute the nice Argentinian fight until the end. It's (almost) worth a share of the draw. well played all, see you on another game.
USA, just try to be OZ in a non-message game - if you think USA is a hard country to play -HAHA!
21 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Frozen-Antarctica]:You know what I respect someone who fight until the end... I'd be willing to give my last build to you Argentina and just end the game here. Great game everyone! See you around
21 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 2012: [Ghana]:I'd think it would be more respectable if he didnt stall the game, but I understand that he would be pissed. Gotta try to get under our skin some way :)
22 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Ghana]:Frozen what the hell?! You said you were gonna take the last center.... Whatever I'm drawing. Good game everyone! Imaginary internet points don't matter anyway!
22 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Europe]:?
22 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Frozen-Antarctica]:uhhhhh yea I honestly don't know what happened! I'll take the center now and then I'll draw.
23 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: [Western-Canada]:Ghana, just take that SCR, please. Let's finish this :)
23 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: [Ghana]:Frozen, if you dont enter the move to SCR this turn im taking it. I think everyone knows by now that Im not a player that likes to go back on his word, but we all know how the game is gonna end so why delay it?
23 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: [Near-East]:Ghana, just take it. It's not like it matters who gets it since the pot will be split evenly anyways.
23 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: [Europe]:I too respect Argentinafor the most part, but why wait til the final sc to decide to flip? Unless the intention is to cause tension between everyone else.
23 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: [Frozen-Antarctica]:yea sorry everyone! I don't know why my moves aren't going through! Ghana just take it.
24 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 2013: [Western-Canada]:that's done. Now if FA can press the Draw button? or shall we all move against him :-D
24 Jul 15 UTC [Near-East]:Let's just draw and be done with it already! haha
24 Jul 15 UTC [Frozen-Antarctica]:haha sorry guys I have been very busy this week!
we will draw now (my fault for dragging this out!

I just want to say it has been a pleasure playing with you guys. hopefully I will see you later down the road!
29 Jul 15 UTC [Western-Canada]:same here!

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Ghana
pizzaisgood (159 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 34 D
22 supply-centers, 21 units
Frozen-Antarctica
payne4life (157 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 34 D
21 supply-centers, 21 units
Western-Canada
0k0k0 (4755 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 34 D
18 supply-centers, 18 units
Europe
rlglenn (177 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 34 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Near-East
thamrick (898 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 34 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Pacific-Russia
Babyburger (1564 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Libya
allanxo (1179 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
USA
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
India
rey_azucar (312 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Oz
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
China
ThatBuhlLarry (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Argentina
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Kenya
jducky (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 2 D
Brazil
respo (98 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
South-Africa
Mazur123 (30 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Quebec
HadBro (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
happyfrog (35 D X)Kenya (Spring, 2004) with 5 centres.
respo (98 D X)Brazil (Autumn, 2005) with 3 centres.
jducky (100 D)Kenya (Spring, 2005) with 2 centres.
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