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Finished: 05 AM Tue 04 Aug 15 UTC
Private League B1: Winter 2015 - Game 4
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1910, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring, Wait for orders
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
03 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1903: I'd no need to pause with wfo then why did the fucking turn process when I had no orders?
03 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1903: You had orders in. You had Ruhr to Munich with Kiel support.
03 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1903: (goldfinger0303): dyager, I think that was unfair. krellin asked for a short pause and you are required to give it. WFO or no.
03 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1903: In my defense...I had pause in before the phase shifted. After it shifted I took it off figuring WFO will take care of the issue and prevent us from putting in the pause...then deal with having to get people to unpause.

I also believe the phase shift happened on the overnight of Wed/Thur so it was fine to just use WFO
07 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: (goldfinger0303): Unpaused. And dyager, I only saw you as not having the pause vote in. We don't log the votes, so I don't know what the vote count looked like at phase shift.
07 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: No problem. I didnt want people to think I am more of a dick than I am :)
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Oh please....nobody thinks you have more of a dick than you actually possess. That's why we pass the microscope around when we talk to you.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Can we just have Italy CD or something? This is getting ridiculous.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: +1
12 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well I'm glad this is WFO...
12 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Indeed.
12 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Was there some site outage or something? Why did nobody else have orders in until a couple of minutes ago?
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I was without access most of today.
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: (goldfinger0303): This is ridiculous guys
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Shame WFO didnt effect the Reliability Rating
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Sorry, sorry, the weekend got away from me.
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: No problem. Xped takes 2-3 days to put n orders. His position kind of stinks so it will be tough to replace.
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: (jmo1121109): Italy has been docked points for the repeat WFO abuse. Further WFO abuse in this game will result in a point dock proportional to severity. WFO is a benefit given to people in high class tournaments. It does not mean you can ignore the game or abuse that benefit.

-WebDip Admin
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: (goldfinger0303): In response to this message - "lol - is this the game that has been paused over and over and over ?? and the tournament started before there even was anything called WFO - Administer as you must"

I will say two things. First off, I am very disappointed that you treat a tournament that I've put a lot of effort into so callously. Tournaments games are held to higher standards than other games on the site..

Secondly, WFO has been on this site for 2-3 years now - I forget exactly how long. The problem is that it was so frequently and rampantly abused - as it has been by you in this game - that it became a feature that only mods can turn on and off. I added it to this game due to my own time limits and lack of ability to constantly monitor the game.

Third (I know, I said two) - jmo just did what I had asked him to do. Any and all League matters - regardless of which mod posts in global - should be sent to me or the mod email. Do not PM the other mods about *my* tournament.
14 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: He PM'd me - I just replied.
14 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: also - how many points were taken from the other 20 players in "your" tournament that quit or were replaced ???? I'm sorry if my personal tragedies are messing with YOUR tournament - but get off your high fucking horse. I'm doing my best to keep up. And if I posted this someplace that is unacceptable to YOU and YOUR tournament - I apologize in advance.
14 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: If you were having issues then you should have contacted Gold. I am sure they would have worked something out with you to replace you or adjust the phase time as needed.

However sitting there silent using WFO the way you have been makes it look like your just being a dick because this tournament hasnt gone your way. The time to claim personal tragedy was weeks ago....
14 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: (goldfinger0303): Points have been taken from other players to get their attention, and are refunded after they start logging in again - just as yours have been. If you have a personal tragedy or another reason for missing the tournament - talk to me. Don't struggle in silence and expect me to be understanding. dr. oct and a few others are going through difficult times as well, and I've given them significant leeway once they've explained their situation to me in private.
15 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Of points are refunded when players log back in, then why had that dickwad bully JMO taken points and *banned* me from tournaments for 6 months for *1* incident of WFO in another game. Fucking mods need to get your lies straight on how policy works. This site just get worse and worse...
15 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: That sounds...umm... excessive - if true. But I have to concur with Dyager in that you can't claim personal sob stories - but only after the fact, and once sanctions are put in place.
15 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: No interest in sharing personal details with anyone here. Keep the points if you need to
15 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Its actually common courtesy to alert a Mod if you can't make your turns - if you don't like it fuck off
15 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: (goldfinger0303): krellin, that's because you were deliberately ignoring jmo while logged on. xpedior, while not entering orders, wasn't even online. So in that respect, your infraction causes a little more weight.

Let me look up how many points it was. If its related to a League game, then I'll give it back. That's my personal rule for the tournaments I TD, not a cross-site policy. I just don't feel like you should be punished for doing something you didn't know you'd be punished for. The 6 month moratorium on tournaments, I'm afraid, will stand. I think there should only be one in the meantime - the Masters - which you weren't in the last time. I probably won't be having another League running concurrently with the Masters, so you should be fine for the next.
15 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Goldie * I don't care about the points. The ban is bullshit. That's just JMO getting a hard-on by attacking me, because he's the webdip mod bully.
15 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: (goldfinger0303): I'm just saying that though you may think the ban is bullshit, practically speaking there won't be many tournaments starting between now and January that you usually join
16 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: It's the Principle, Goldie. Something the miss around here claim to use when they make seemingly arbitrary decisions. Toy either have then and are consistent, or toy don't, c and...
18 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Hi all,

I won't be around at all tomorrow, so I likely won't be able to send out any messages this phase. It's not something I can help, unfortunately. I would ask for a pause, but for one day it's probably not worth the effort to try to get everyone to vote.
18 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Get Goldie to do it for you
19 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Wait..what? People are still sending Press around here?
21 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: I am on the road most of today with off andnon cell phone coverage so my press will be a bit sporadic.
22 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: *sigh*
22 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: sigh right back at you
25 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Lol it's funny to watch everyone's true colors come out during the last game. It's quite pathetic actually.
25 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: What are you talking about?
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Hi all,

I'll be away from early morning on the 3rd until the 17th, in a place I thought I would have internet (hence why I did not mention it before) but it turns out I will not. As such I'm going to have to ask for a pause over this time.

Unfortunately, I can't get a sitter (since this account has access to mod tools).

Are you all alright to pause over this time?
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: I guess so. Shame we cant ready up orders and get this done in a few days. I would suggest just drawing it but I think league standings matter for how many are in the end.
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Alternatively...Krellin could sit your account.He can be trusted with Mod powers.
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: You just made me snort coffee over my keyboard.
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Can we just finish the game this phase? I will draw once Stein is eliminated - sorry buddy.
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: I too go overseas with limited access in about 22 hours time.
01 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Fine by me.
02 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Sorry stein but if you could ready up we can finish this
02 Aug 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: done.
02 Aug 15 UTC How many games does it take for 7 people to dislike eachother. Apparently less than 4 :)
Overall I enjoyed these games....thanks for the 6 months of entertainment.
02 Aug 15 UTC That was an experience and a half. Thank you to everyone who participated - except the arses who got replaced and fucked the first couple of games, and of course the awful experience of dyagers solo with he and xpedior completely doing my head in.

Special shout out to krellin you mad bastard, and apologies to stein for this last match

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France
captainmeme (1589 D Mod)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Russia
Wusti (1573 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Austria
dyager_nh (619 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Turkey
Yoyoyozo (172 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 9 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Italy
xpedior (707 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
England
Steingrim (404 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
krellin (80 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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