Finished: 06 PM Tue 31 Mar 15 UTC
Home of the Brave
18 hours /phase
Pot: 112 D - Autumn, 2013, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
17 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: This game has been nothing but funny business on Mexico's part... smh

Feel free to move your fleets south if you wish. Move east coast to SoF, in case he tries to sneak behind us. Take Holguin either in the spring or the fall.
17 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: Strait of Florida and cyaman Triangle?
17 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: Fine with me.
17 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2008: Why even split 3 ways with Mexico, how about 3 ways Florida, New york and me?
17 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2008: As I stated before, I have no problem with that. Outlast CA & Peru, and we'll see where we stand.
18 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2008: Lets coorindate fleets florida
18 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: I moving to West Caribean
18 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: and straits of florida
18 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: SoF is fine, but take Holguin with that other fleet. Just to make sure Mex has incentive to accept the draw when it comes up...
18 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: done
18 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: Im going to move down to help stop Deep South getting Tenesse
19 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: Might be hard with a boat...
19 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: I got it covered, thanks. Keep the DMZs as they are.
19 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2008: Since Mex is probably going to stick to the CA SCs, you're going to have to take Hawaii so we can end this.
19 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: @california really?

@florida if you could attack Oregon from Idaho to cut support that would be great.
19 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: @british Columbia you can sail ships up through the rivers on this map
19 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: That is good to know for next time, thanks for the tip
19 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: Sure thing NY. Just send Antilles fleet back north for me. It's too crowded down there now and you'll need him more on the wild goose chase against CA anyway ;)
19 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: I'll leave SoF to you NY... And I'm sure you can smell that solo right about now, but try to resist :)

I mean, we can't go proving Mexico right after all this time, can we? lol
19 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: I'd be lying if i said I hadn't thought of the solo win, but it just doesn't feel right.

However I'm very suspicious of Mex so am happy to chip away at him until everyone else is out.
20 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2009: Agreed on both counts.

Peru- not that you have any real reason to trust me, but I'm taking Panama, and will not touch Cali this year if you support yourself into Ecuador and then take Lima in the fall.
21 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2010: Can you support me into San Fran from Oregan?

Thks.
21 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2010: You got it. If you could return the favor into LA in the fall, it'd be appreciated.
22 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2010: ok
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: This isn't a breaking of the Alllience btw, I still want to draw! I just was getting worried about you expanding so much in the South.

I will of course support you into Los Angeles.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: gg new york, I think you win.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: Yea well, no reason to hide that you're going for the win. I don't care that much at this point. But no need for the lame excuses since between us, there's only 1 player who has a chance to win, and it's not me. I highly doubt you'll accept the draw now, but I suppose I could always be surprised.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: Florida, any way I can salvage a truce? I mean it this time!
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: We can keep all territories as is.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: Doesn't New York win at 25 centers?
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: If i wanted to win outright I would have surprise attacked in autumn.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: A bit hard to believe you at this point, as I'm sure you understand. And your earlier stab has probably irrevocably paved the way to victory for NY. But if you're serious, then retreat from GoM, and also move to South Carribean. If you help me finish off Peru before NY wins, than I'm fine with including u in a draw.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: @Peru: a win for this map requires 34 SCs. So NY still has a ways, but they could snatch it up very quickly.

@NY: so then why attack Florida at all?

@Florida: I'm not going to retreat anywhere, but I am also not going to take your territories. Yeahup, no reason to trust me, but you're right: I shouldn't have stabbed you. I'll lose eventually anyway if I go back on this deal now, because NY will gobble you up. When you move forces north to block NY, I will withdraw south to Peru.
22 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2010: @Florida: I made a miscalculation with my earlier stabs against you. I thought I could snatch up enough SCs to dominate the board. But you strategically held me off both times. My mistake, and it cost me a win, and probably a draw. The earlier "paranoia" on my part was concocted too to legitimize the stab. Apologies for all, it's the game, but I got beat by you.

Hoping for a draw now, and I am fully committed to that, because I know my chances at a win now are almost impossible.
26 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2012: Florida, I am moving Durango to Chihuahua and Baja the turn after that. You won't lose Chihuahua SC. I need more support in the north.
26 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: @Peru: can we call a truce in the south and just work together to block NY?
26 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: Alright. Support me into east carribean then.
26 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: That's fine Mex, just block NY from Kingston.
26 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: Peru you realise if I win you get a share of the points? Where as if you are knocked out for a three way draw then you get nothing?
26 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: @Peru no way you're going to be knocked out now. This is going to be a 4-way draw or NY wins.
27 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: @Peru: are you in for a four-way draw?
27 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: There's something going wrong with my orders a the minute.

I'm definately putting in support holds but they're not registairing. West coast should have held.
27 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: You ordered west coast to move. You can't support hold a unit that is moving, even if the unit was blocked from moving.
27 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2012: ah ok thanks. Its probaby clear that Im not great at the technical aspects of this game yet.
29 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2013: Well, this is certainly an interesting turn of events. I certainly didn't think we'd get a draw out of this, but we sure have a great chance now.
29 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 2013: im travelling at the moment. Damn
30 Mar 15 UTC @New York: can you just draw if you're not going to play?
30 Mar 15 UTC Yes

Good game guys I had a blast. I think I could have gone for the win - very frustrating as only four control centers off but unfrotunately life has got in the way.

Best wishes.
30 Mar 15 UTC Quite a fun one. Well played NY.
30 Mar 15 UTC Gg to all!

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New-York
misomiso (137 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 28 D
26 supply-centers, 27 units
Florida
dagabs0 (24348 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 28 D
15 supply-centers, 13 units
Mexico
po (705 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 28 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Peru
Brongue (150 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 28 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
British-Columbia
timmler (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
California
l_tibike (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Heartland
Mr.Red1001 (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
Quebec
czechveck (487 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Texas
lebidoremi (90 D)
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
Cuba
ThatBuhlLarry (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
terry32smith (0 D X)Texas (Autumn, 1999) with 5 centres.
ThatBuhlLarry (100 D)Cuba (Spring, 2003) with 2 centres.
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