Finished: 06 PM Sat 05 Dec 09 UTC
I'm Frigo, Kapeesh?
1 day /phase
Pot: 105 D - Spring, 1920, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
23 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well, so it goes I say. Good luck to you all.
28 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1906: Ahh sorry everybody for missing this turn! (Not to Austria I guess)
28 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1906: ;)
28 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1906: I would have taken it anyway.
28 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1906: Yes but at least I could have stood you out of Mun and could build a unit there to replace my disbanded Fleet in Berlin :( I'm really an idiot!
28 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1906: You could have bounced me but I would still control it. You would not be able to build there.
28 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1906: yeah right... but at least you're army wouldn't be in Mun. I guess it's good that me missing my turn didn't really make that big of a difference :)
01 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Hmm Turkey/Austria are you getting bored? I would agree to a draw if you _really don't wanna fight it to the end *wink*
01 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1907: lol
01 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Nope.
03 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: To Italy and France: I'm sorry that I drew you into an alliance with this treacherous limey... The next part of the message shld probably be private but I guess it doesn't matter at this point: I don't know if you guys still feel like doing anything, but if so I suggest Turkey supports France into Tunis (or other way round), and either Italy or Turkey go into Spain with support from the other and from me. Italy should go if he still wants to play, or not if he can't be bothered. Just let me know which move to support.
03 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: You forget that France just lost his only SC, and Italy lost one of his.
03 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: I thought of Italy's but didn't think of France's. Why of why do I always have to embarass myself on the global chat... Like not only am I loosing but I'm also making a fool out of myself!
03 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Bye bye France then, was nice having you around (much more so after you were reduced to one SC though, before you were a pain in the back for me :) ).
03 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: How touching.
03 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1908: You're such a coldhearted cynic...
04 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1908: That's very thoughtful of you.
05 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1908: Sorry for holding up the game so long, couldn't log in before.
07 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1908: Man this game is quite a show. happy that I'm still around, and hope to survive to see how it's gonna end...
09 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1909: Oops, missed my turn. Shit.
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: Kill Italy and vote for the draw!
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: I believe it is in the interest of both myself and Germany to draw. However I don't see why when someone can still win.
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: Well, vote for the draw then!
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: I'd rather uphold my principals of never giving up on a win until the very end. Even the chance of a win, however small, is better than a draw.
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: After all this is a wta game.
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: I'm (obviously) all for a draw. If possibe, however, I wouldn't mind if Italy could also share in the draw. I think he deserves it for his stamina, many lesser players would have long gone into CD. Plus sharing 4-way or sharing 5-way doesn't make a big difference point-wise. But I guess the question of eliminating or let him survive Italy will be handled exclusively by Tur and Eng given the position. Turkey, what's your take on a draw?
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: Personally I think it's too much of an interesting game to draw.
09 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1909: I guess that's an honourable attitude you share with Austria... The game isn't so interesiting for me at the moment :) so I voted draw. Maybe later then.
17 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1912: I would still be for a draw :)
27 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1916: Man I think that's a new record for me... Seven supports! :)
27 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1916: Actually it was six. Burgandy didn't support you.
27 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1916: Good game Turkey. Congratulations.
27 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1917: Thank you Austria.
27 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1917: Yeah, nicely done!
28 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1917: It seems I might have been wrong.
30 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1918: Come on Turkey, draw it. Its virtually unwinnable now.
30 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1918: I wouldn't say that.
02 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1919: Turkey, now you're being unsportsmanlike. This has been a 2-man game since Spring 1911; there's no reason to jockey like this for nearly 16 turns. Be an honorable fellow, recognize that it was a well-played game, and draw it out.
02 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1919: Lol, I don't believe this.
02 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1919: Time to talk turkey, Turkey.
03 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1919: It is not unsportsmanlike. I moved into the MAO and if I had not realized I wouldn't be home until now today, I probably would have taken Spain and won. Please stop being frustrated because you are continuously declining.
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: Well there really isn't anything you can do now. I can think of no possible way you can get the last SC. Prussia is secure, the Mao should be secure from now on, and I've even thought of you convincing him to take my SC which would allow you to take it yourself. And I don't see Germany giving up this chance either. There's nothing left.
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: It's very possible that is a draw is inevitable now, Austria. I will have to analyze the board in a little. But I'm disappointed that England decided to call me unsportsmanlike after moves didn't turn out the way he wanted. Because a draw clearly wasn't yet inevitable. If I truly believe it becomes that way, I'll vote for one.
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: Hey, that "draw is inevitable" thing while you were still in MAO was what we in the legal trade call "puffery".

Now, however, its pretty serious. Draw?
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: Whoa I'm confused. I do think that this game should be drawn, and it should have been before you took the Mao. Turkey could have won there, and when I first saw that statement, I thought it was before you took the Mao. So I'm curious what that was about too.

And now what is this puffery thing. Could you rephrase that statement, so we can understand?
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: The first statement I'm referring to is England's "unsportsmanelike" statement.
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: I guess "puffery" means that he knew that his statement of a draw being inevitable was not true, but he used it nevertheless in order to try to browbeat Tur into accepting a draw, a) making Tur believe that a draw is inevitable himself, and/or b) making Turkey beleive that we others think a draw is inevitable and thus find him a bad character (or bad sportsmand) for keeping us playing forever w/o a chance of winning. So even if a) wouldn't work (highly likely), then Tur could still accept a draw just to avoid making us angry. B) was also pretty unlikely to work though, since Turkey would have had to beleive that we others are a little stupid to believe a draw to be inevitable. Is that about it, England?
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: So that would excuse the insult as an in-game tactic and thus permissible. However, it could be conceived to be an insult to Turkey to believe he would fall for such a cheap trick, or and insult for me and Austria that Eng and Tu would believe we're such bad players that the threat of us getting angry because we think a draw is inevitable even though it isn't would be realistic :) realistic :)
03 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1919: And yeah now after that NMR it looks to me like a draw would be inevitable. It would be quite a laugh if Tur went CD now and England would win. Not a funny laugh but still...
03 Dec 09 UTC Good game all, that was a tough fight for the draw. I think Austria and Germany get huge respect for staying in there; I'm sure they liked getting 100% support from both sides for the last 8 years.

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England
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
Prosperity (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Germany
debjon (297 D)
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Austria
Drawn. Bet: 15 D, won: 26 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
France
Pipe (553 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Italy
imday (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Russia
Gaulgath (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
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