Finished: 09 AM Wed 23 Sep 09 UTC
All the Leaves are Brown
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1912, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
08 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1901: Hello all and GL.
08 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1901: Likewise
08 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1901: hello!!
23 Sep 09 UTC Spring, 1906: so i would like to stay in exile in holland if i could
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: Why does it say CRASHED?
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: Not sure, someone might need to tell a Mod
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: I posted a thread in the forum to see what we need to do to release the game.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: Good man. I think it's a sign though. I really do. It will give us the chance to come to grips with our emotions.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: this happened with one of my other games. It was fixed after a few days.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'm up for a draw while we wait, though...
:-P
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'm sure this one will be fixed too.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: Lol.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will never, ever vote for a draw. Unless evryone is truly equal then I think a draw is for those to lazy to negotiate. In a points-per-supply-center game it makes no sense to have a draw with 4 players. Especially at a 16,11 6,1 ratio. The movie phsyco comes to mind. Stab stab stab!!!!
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: hey, I was just speaking from my OBVIOUSLY SUPERIOR TACTICAL POSITION...
lol

I never really expected a draw BTW. just trying to pass time...
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: I know yoe weren't but some are. I would like to thank you for your honesty earlier. I've never had a player tell me they were going to attack in the near future.
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: that was actually more a "I will defeat you when I need two of your SCs to win, not to kill you", but it backfired, and as you can see it didn't work so well for me...
08 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: oh. I misunderstood. At the time you were pretty big and it sounded much more threatening. sorry.
09 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: The draw would be with 3 of us, we would obviously kill russia first
09 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1910: But why France? No offence but he didn't do much in this game. I won't do a 3 way draw in this scenario. Sorry but it goes against my principles. I'll let it sit for years before I do that. I'll wait for someone to miss a turn. It's bound to happen eventually. In the meanwhile I'll keep negotiationg. It is called diplomacy not draw.
10 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1911: What would your negotiation be towards? If anything less then victory of course...
10 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1911: Less than victory? That would depend on who I was negotiating with. But I'll surely offer at least 16 sc's to whoever was willing to play this game out. I'll swear to that. I was never a soccer player and I don't believe in uneccesary ties. I'd be willing to help either one of you to 16 sc's. If you want 17 then I'd start being reasonable with me a trying to talk something out instead of this stalemate for a draw which I will never, ever agree to..
12 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1911: Ok, we are ready for a draw.
12 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1911: Too bad. I'm not going to give it.
12 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1911: There is nothing to give in too, you did not win . . . rest in the fact that you did not win.
12 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1911: Neither did you. But it's not over yet. I never quit. I play to win. And I'm very patient.
13 Oct 09 UTC I see that a draw is a victory. The game is set to end with 18 SCs because it is a game of Diplomacy not world domination. And the record keeping of personal stats are an after thought to the game's creation. One that many people cherish being victorious there also, over the playing of the game itself.
13 Oct 09 UTC That's true. I agree with you there. That's why I've negotiated my heart out in this. I've also continued to negotiate with both of you long after you'd made up your minds and I will continue to do so. I think you're starting to warm up to me. We may still come to an agreement.
13 Oct 09 UTC We are both open to any agreement short of giving you 18 or more SC's (and the win)... Unfortunately, it appears you are only open to some agreement that gives you the win, and you hope one of us hurts the other in the process.
13 Oct 09 UTC What other agreements would there be?
13 Oct 09 UTC Would you argue for the Draw if you were me? And if not then the only alternative would be the win. I just wish my internet hadn't crashed and I missed that turn or things would be different but oh well. That's the way it goes.
13 Oct 09 UTC Nope in your shoes I would probably do what you were doing, try for the win and only if you start to lose go for the draw, but it might be too late then. So I would probably take the draw after 1-2 turns of a stalemate
13 Oct 09 UTC Or just keep sweet talking you guys. You know Kleemm, you're writing looks great in blue!
13 Oct 09 UTC It does, best part of being france... lol
14 Oct 09 UTC The greatest victory of this game will be to witness humility blossom in the heart of the great Turkish deserts. :)
14 Oct 09 UTC Ah, that would be sweet.
14 Oct 09 UTC Well, I guess neither of you are going to give so congrats on the draw. I tried.
14 Oct 09 UTC gg
14 Oct 09 UTC gg
15 Oct 09 UTC good game

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Turkey
C-K (2037 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
England
bodek (166 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
France
kleemm (171 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
7 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
mugence (417 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Morty1138 (202 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
Chad (103 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Austria
wleite (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
wleite (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1904) with 1 centres.
Chad (103 D)Italy (Spring, 1907) with 5 centres.
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