Finished: 09 AM Thu 30 Jan 14 UTC
Final Push
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 145 D - Autumn, 2006, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Public messaging only, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Thegatso (234 D (B))
05 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2002: also Germany, sorry for proposing the idea, but you'd be the only one not voting draw so you'd have been able to draw us at anytime. I was mainly acting out of self preservation though.
05 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2002: @turkey: because points are divided evenly between all people playing so, as they would be easy to kill, he is planning on doing it so that we could all(not counting those 2) get 8 more points
05 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2002: Italy, would you be so kind as to support my hold in "Mar" with your fleet in "Lig" this next round?
06 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2002: Yes
06 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2002: If you could bump Germany's unit in Milan as well, Italy, I'd appreciate it. It slipped my mind that Germany would be displaced by my entrance into "Mar." He now has four units adjacent to me there.
09 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2003: We should keep attacking Germany until we draw because he seems to be keeping up his assault.
09 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2003: germany, you know, if we tie it wont matter how many sc's you have. It will be split evenly
09 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2003: Maybe he wants to get so many SCs that he won't have to draw, he could defeat all of us. We should keep attacking us to prevent that.
09 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2003: Haha, yes everyone turn your backs to Turkey. All he has to do is build an army in Geo and he has Ukraine completely screwed. In two years, Turkey can take Serbia, Rostov, Ruman, Aswan, and Alexandria and there's not a thing any of you can do about it if you keep focusing me. The instant the tide of this 4v1 starts favoring the 4, Turkey's going to unvote and win the game. Mark my words.
11 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: @riib: move back to Austria I'll support your move, ad he will not be able to stop you. :)
11 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: ok
11 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: wait, austria? Ill move to hungary
12 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: Yeah, sorry
12 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2004: You can't just ignore the fleet and hope it goes away Spain.
13 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2004: I'm quitting this game now, as you promised, Germany, to draw once you take Britain, which should happen next turn.

Take the peninsula if you like, or anyone else for that matter.
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: yay
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Even though, Im still going to enter orders so that you dont think you can just take me out too, germany. Funny I cant really say gg because this one didnt really turn out balanced...
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: The game is self balancing. If you saw I had an advantage from Austria's DMRing from the beginning, you should have been more difficult on me or worked together against me earlier. I outplayed Britain and kept under the radar of Italy until it was too late.

It was a good game, your failing was not convincing Italy to attack me sooner.
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: It's like saying classic is unbalanced because Russia starts with 4 instead of 3.
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Also as soon as you took Russia you should have been building fleets out of Murmansk and St. Petersburg. You had way too many tanks and no fleets at all.

Also, and I'm only saying this because I have such a lead and just to prove you wrong: You could have taken Bielorussia this entire time if you moved at to Lit instead of using Lat to support an attack on Bielo. I was able to cancel your support out without having to give up my support hold in Lit.

You were allowing my Baltic Sea fleet to effect the fight.
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: True
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: As is evident, you are the better tactician than me. I did miss two turns, but that didnt make a difference to my overall strategy that was in those ways flawed
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: still do hope you vote draw with the rest of us
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: I was not expecting much at the beginning from you only having 18 credits, but you have turned out to be better. I am not super experienced myself, but if your interested in diplomacy you should check out this site: vdiplomacy.net
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Thank you Riib, I just signed up. It looks fantastic. :)
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: it is, so i'm guessing you're not going to agree?
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Pleease draw Germany
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: And glad you guys like vdip too
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Sorry, my friends, I can't say no to a win.
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: I think friends is the wrong word there, but I wont hate on you. I mean, its not like this game has anything to do with real life. Although, Id have to say that your diplomacy hasnt really helped you at all in this game, event if your tactics were good. Your choice now would be one an example. I was hoping to be able to finish up this game but i guess not anymore. If your goal is to win this game, ill say you arent going to be stopped probably. But with a mindset like your i can promise you wont win many games
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Actually, I can kinda guess about the only 19 credits you stated the game with now
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: If you ignore my messages I dont really care, but i sent them because I hope you will someway
16 Jan 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: i was thinking about giving it to him anyway, he's never won.
17 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: i don't approve of lying though... an am going to do everything in my power to defeat, or at least stalemate you germany.

@spain: i'm going to start trying to provide support. i'll move my fleets near you.

@turkey: could you please start trying to help in the war? spain needs help. i'll leave maltese sea open to you so that you can start moving your troops. please help. we need you to provide support to spain.

@ukraine: move serbia to rumania. i'll help in hungary. if turkey was going to stab us, they probably would have done it already. a unit in rumania would be more useful than a unit in serbia.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: Thanks, Italy. Please take Tunisia, and yes, please send support.

I'd like to survive this match if possible. How many SCs does Germany need to win?
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: 5
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I'm predicting Gorky, Moscow, Portugal, Rostov, and Geo/Svl/Madrid for the 5th.

You'll survive the game, Spain.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: i'm moving to tunis, but am just passing through.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I'll be sending my fleets west to support Spain.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: ok, thanks.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: Thanks, everyone. I'm going to try my best to hold out until Germany gets his remaining 5 SCs.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I'll never take Bar, Spain. You're not gonna die.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=129481 Look at another one of my games. I tend to leave people alive anyway.
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: We don't know who you are though... It's also anonymous...
19 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: Who's the only one in the game leaving people alive?
19 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: Ok...
19 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I think what he's trying to say is why should we believe that its you in that game
19 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: you're all missing the point. The point is I won't kill Spain. Why are you even arguing that?
19 Jan 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I'm not, I mainly had the ... In case I wanted to add something else.
28 Jan 14 UTC Good game guys. I'm down to post mortem a bit if you guys want to, but if not, I understand.

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Germany
Thegatso (234 D (B))
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 80 D
37 supply-centers, 32 units
Turkey
Caan (162 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 32 D
13 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
tvrocks (388 D)
Survived. Bet: 14 D, won: 17 D
7 supply-centers, 9 units
Ukraine
Riib (123 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 3 units
Spain
sfrochen (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 8 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
Russia
ptooms (390 D)
Defeated. Bet: 9 D
France
DaveMudra (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Poland
Bbrett93 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 8 D
Britain
clearwaters (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Egypt
viriato9 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 14 D
Civil Disorders
Bbrett93 (100 D)Poland (Spring, 1998) with 3 centres.
rosaville (1415 D)Egypt (Autumn, 1997) with 6 centres.
zqazi2 (635 D)Italy (Spring, 1996) with 7 centres.
Kivati (90 D)Russia (Autumn, 1995) with 5 centres.
Hoboman6116 (100 D)Poland (Autumn, 1996) with 4 centres.
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