Finished: 04 PM Thu 20 Aug 09 UTC
GunBoat-NoPress (Armanii)
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1904, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: Okay, I made mistake myself thinking that you've send message to me. This is global chat here.

IS THIS GUNBOAT GAME OR NOT? What's happening with you people sending me messages??? Gunboat means NO TALKING during the game!
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: danm cheaters....
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: that was stupid
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: Chill down! This is his first Gunboat game ;)
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: Germany, you're not allowed to talk in Gunboat games. The only way to communicate is by supporting somebody and showing that you're up for a peaceful pact, but DO NOT speak in a Gunboat game, or else you're screwing it up for everyone!
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: O sorry guys I didn't know what gunboat meant
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: It's the same for No Press ;)
No talking ;D
18 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1902: And Russia, Germany WAS talking to you. There's no way for France or anyone else to take Sweden ;)
19 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1902: Oh, I've been talking to people. Sorry bout that.
19 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1902: But he was talking about me taking/supporting/smthng in Belgium... o_O

Anw, "gunboat" is not the same as "no press". Press is this, public messaging. So, if we play just gunboat, press is allowed. If we play just no press, then private messaging is alowed. But this game is "no press" + "gunboat", and that means that no messaging is alowed.

I suggest, in the name of not-spoiling this game to restart game. All of us have to click on "draw" button, and I'll start new game with same parameters (turn size, pot size, simmilar name) and put some password (and tell you what the password is) so only us can start game from the beggining.

Are you okay with that?
19 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1902: Agreed, i think its unfair that they have been talking, i would ask that.
19 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1902: Yes, it may bi quite unfair. Also, if everybody wants to do this, we should all click draw in the same turn, otherwise our drawings will be restartedk
19 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1902: I'm drawing!
And please use the same name! ;$
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: it looks like the game will goe on, which i'm perfectly fine with, and I;m sure russia is too
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: I was waiting for all of you to click draw..
But, it took 3 or 4 turns for all those people to click draw... That's like "Hey, I'll wait to see if I will success. If I won't, I'll click draw" :D
And that's not so fair, right? At the moment when I suggested draw, only two guys and me agreed to draw. And that's not seven :)
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: Russia & England, PLEASE DRAW!
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: And by the way: AUSTRIA AND ITALY ARE CHEATING >=(
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: Im sorry what???? How am i cheating? Because i supported him into the agean? Your pathetic, just because your losing...
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: And i suppose when the black sea AND bulgaria supported rumania ypu MUST have been cheatig... Thats so pathetic and lame that you accuse me of cheating because your losing
20 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1903: Yup, Turkey, if you think they're cheating only judging by that support, you MAY be right, but it's not proof. As you and me keep each other in Rumania/Bulgaria, even if we didn't speak a thing to each other... So calm down, unless you have more proofs ;)
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Ok, now your saying that to deflect the obvious, now look Russia and England please draw as some people have been blatantly cheating, may it be an accident and thus we should restart the game to regain its integrity.
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: we should all attack russia and england until they do...even turkey
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Germany, we can't even expect your help ;)
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Redhaven, you play dirty like a dog...

I WAS for drawing like 4 turns ago...
The only reason I didn't click draw is to keep this game from turning of so, if all of us agree to restart game, I can send here password for the new one...

Austria said: "OK, now your saying that to deflect the obvious"
I do not know what are you talking about... "Obvious" is that I made arrangement with Turkey?? o_O
Listen, guy, first thing I've done after getting Rumania is supporting YOU from Serbia hoping that you will attack Bulgaria. Little map does not show that, but the larger one does! (see here http://bit.ly/16SJgw ) At the same moment (while I was supporting YOUR potential attack against Turkey) Turkey was supporting hold me in Rumania... So I realized that he is willing to help me.. and that is non-verbal communication which is the only way to communicate in Gunboat+NoPress games...
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: As soon as you asked for a draw, I agreed with it. And I supported Russia's hold because I wanted to work together, and because I saw Austria and Italy not fighting but moving just closer to me. And he needed help anyway. And if Rumania was taken, I could no longer support Bulgaria!
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Please tell Russia and England to draw, as the integrity of this game has been taken, I apologize to Russia and Italy who are doing quite well.
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: I do not think the integrity is taken. Let's continue. They are players who wanted to draw the same moment I suggested that... But only two of them.

The rest didn't want that at the moment, but was waiting to see what's going to happen, I think... And that's not nice...

Even if we start another game (but it's not likely 5 turns after i suggested it), I will send to you guys password as private message and will skip over Germany because he showed that he play dirty. And will find at forum the seventh player :)
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: I know they waited and that was unfair, but Russia if you draw out of good will then im sure England would follow.
20 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Also, i am not going to move, so please start a new game, i will gladly play
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Hey, that's not okay. Drawing is valid only if everybody click draw. Since everybody DIDN'T click draw, we continue. You stop behaving like a kid and continue game.

And from now till the end of this game, i'm not going to write anything anywhere in this game.

Have a nice game all of you :)
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: No, you didnt draw, everyone else did, so please do it.
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Armanii, as the creator of the game i would ask that you please live up to what you asked in asking everyone to draw.
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: "No, you didnt draw, everyone else did, so please do it."
England didn't draw. Even if he draw now, I won't draw. Sorry, but I won't draw in game when every player draws at the moment the game is not going well for him...
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: You didnt draw because the game is going well for you, England didnt draw because he gave up...
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Well, that's not nice. I explained why I am waiting for all of you. And England IS playing. So stop behaving like a kid.
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: You need to draw to keep the integrity of the game i dont see why thats kidsh at all, you atent doing it because it isent convinient for you, stop bullshitting everyone and draw the game.
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: WHY DIDN'T YOU INSIST ON DRAWING SO HARD 5 TURNS AGO WHEN I SUGGESTED IT??????
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Its been one turn, first you said 3-4 now your saying 5, stop being ridiculous, i am not in a bad position as i have a very powerful ally, so dont give me that excuse..
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Yes, I know. You know, as game progress, number of turns are growing. Global history does not keep all messages, so you can not see now when I suggested that, but you have to trust me... If you don't want to trust me, who cares... If you don't like the game, you may leave it...
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Alright, then are we playing a gunboat game or not?
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: I'm leaving the game...
I do not want to draw..
This is stupid...

The most stupid thing is that in this turn I changed side because I realized that it is more useful to attack Turkey together with Austria, than attacking Austria together with Turkey...

But Austrian guy pissed me off because of his childish behavior, and he does not deserve my support, I'm leaving...

I've already made similar game earlier... It's not "the same game as this one with password only for us", it does not have sense after all...
This has pot 15 points and turn lasts 16 hours... And is not points-per-supplies, but winner-takes-it-all...
If someone wants to play, he's welcome...
All of you guys are wellcome, really :)

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21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: I can't believe that people want to win this game so badly, and don't want a draw.. The bet is only 5! :|
21 Aug 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: it's really just england
22 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1904: Then I wish France and/or Russia to kill him! >.<
22 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1904: Nah. This game is getting more and more interesting, I will continue just to see what's going to happen xD
22 Aug 09 UTC Spring, 1904: Right.. Stabbing my back.. Go on.. It feels good ;D
23 Aug 09 UTC Why isent it drawing?
23 Aug 09 UTC England, Germany..
23 Aug 09 UTC Oh i thought they were gone
23 Aug 09 UTC Now they are. Damn, I couldn't wait to see how are we going to resolve situation about Warsaw and Sevastopol xD

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Italy
jrev (215 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Russia
kivan26 (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
France
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Austria
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Turkey
ArmaniBoy (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
Redhaven (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: D
1 supply-centers, 0 units
England
DragonSheep (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
3 supply-centers, 2 units
Civil Disorders
DragonSheep (100 D)England (Spring, 1904) with 0 centres.
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