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Finished: 10 PM Thu 07 Nov 13 UTC
Private Irregular Sun Star
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 77 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by hawkeye855 (5 D X)
28 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: I shall spread my Russian nesting dolls and homophobia across the land!
28 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: This always happens when I'm Turkey. Always.
28 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: :3
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: I'm going to go ahead and predict that the main powers left in the end will be Russia and France, France with the solo win. But of course, things could change.
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Yay, I get a solo!
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Nothing new there, really.
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Ummm..... let me think..... who got a solo last game?
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Last game it was a draw, but that was on the med... at least I think that was the last one
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: No, think harder Jonathan...
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Oh wait no I lied... it was me.
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: LOLLOLOLOLOLOLL #YOLO!!!
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: I see your point but you weren't in that game, so...
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: #YOLO
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: Shhhhhhh...irrelevance.
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1902: #yoloswag
#3pro5you
#5real
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1904: Because the weekend always seems to be when and where these games fall apart, I suggest people vote draw on Friday afternoon. Unless, of course, people can be positive they can submit moves during the weekend.

I just want to mention this in advance because, well, it doesn't really help to tell people to pause during the weekend so they won't have to go online during the weekend, as that makes no sense.
31 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 1904: Why not vote pause instead?
31 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: yeah we should just pause it
31 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yeah, that's the idea. Vote pause some time on Friday
01 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1905: ok
01 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: russia, russia, lalalalala
03 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1906: Meh, it's Sunday and the next phase is late at night. We might as well cancel pause.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: That was weird...
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: ...?
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: ?
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: VUT VAS VEIRD?!
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Bulgaria, Rumania, Constantinople, Smyrna, and Ankara
All changed positions without any retreats and are all now occupied by a different country.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Bulgaria didn't change positions...
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: screw the first part of what I said about changing positions and we're good.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Bulgaria is not occupied by a different country...
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Good game England. Well fought, England's tough to gain a foothold in the mainland. You also got stabbed by me, and after stabbing Russia, him as well, leaving you with no alliances for the last few years.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Also, I'd like to find away around out of game alliances. Don't get me wrong, I still like people talking with others outside of the game, but I think far too many alliances are being decided based on player rather than countries. If anyone wants to argue that point, well, be my guest, but I think a lot of people here think the same way.

Anyway, if someone has a suggestion for how to get around that, whether it be an additional rule in-game, an additional rule we decide on before the game, or some other way to prevent this, please post it on global.

Anonymous games seem like the most obvious way to prevent this. However, we usually find out who is who pretty quick anyway, we have no way of talking to any said country outside of in-game messaging, and it just generally becomes a pain. So, any other ideas would be appreciated.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Anonymous live. No time to find out who is who.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: -and if that doesn't work, make it public messaging as well.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Idk about live, that's a bit intense. but anon for starters. I like my private messages
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Alright, if people are really up for anonymous, I wouldn't be wholly against that. However, I'd like to find a solution other than live so we still play long phases. That said, there will definitely be live games hopefully, they can be fun as hell.
04 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: *There will definitely be live games, hopefully soon.
05 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1908: Wow, you guys really ganged up on me :-/ I was expecting a backstab, not a full scale invasion from the rest o the board. Too bad you all left your French borders free of armies so Q can get in easy xD
05 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1908: Yep. That's why I didn't attack Munich, Holland or Denmark when they were obtainable, and also why I never moved in to Tyrrhenian or Ionian after I took Tunis. You completely found me out. xD

I respect that you're using global to try and make the rest of the board turn around and all, but I'd also appreciate if you tried a little harder to convince people next time. Your message just didn't feel persuasive in the least. No hard feelings?
05 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1908: I wasn't trying to persuade, I'm dead already :D
05 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1908: I wasn't trying to persuade, I'm dead already :D
05 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1908: Yay!
05 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1908: aww
05 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: And by the way Russia -
You were right about the stab
05 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: well duh
05 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Funny, this is just like some other game I played when I stabbed Russia and then I went down after I moved too many of my units against him.
05 Nov 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: gameid?
06 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 1909: I showed you that one before..
06 Nov 13 UTC Ah, yes, I remember now.
06 Nov 13 UTC Gg guys, again, message me what you guys are thinking for the next game (pretty sure Bryan already has some other obscure name picked out) if you want to have one. I've gotten a few wanting to play just anon with everything else normal. We've tried it out before, and it failed, but I'm up for trying it out again if others want to.

Sorry I had to stab Germany, England, Russia, Germany (again), and Italy, (so pretty much everyone I ever bordered) but it's how the game goes. Don't take it personally (obviously).

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France
hawkeye855 (5 D X)
Won. Bet: 11 D, won: 41 D
18 supply-centers, 14 units
Italy
coeliot (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 11 D, won: 30 D
13 supply-centers, 9 units
Germany
empulsion (107 D)
Survived. Bet: 11 D, won: 7 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
Russia
Styje (266 D)
Survived. Bet: 11 D, won: D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Turkey
Survived. Bet: 11 D, won: D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Austria
LordOfTheFez (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
England
Dubs Step (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
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