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1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 54 D - Autumn, 2008, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: such kinds of menaces, my dear...

"cuba dont be a noob or we will all form an anti cuba alliance eliminate you and then do the holds"

"yeah they should be able to sort this out if not i vote we crush cuba"

are simply showing the lvl that you've....

I will remember them and I hope also the moderator will take in consideration your attitude that is fully agaisnt the rules (and somebody is speaking of "fairness spirit" here...ahahah! teach to the author of this "wonderful" and "fair" words what is this spirit , please.... ahahah!
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Ok. Cuba and Peru said they're moving back.
I am holding.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: i did not violate any rules if i did im sure the moderators will act accordingly also your post does not make much sense
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: bye bye, my "fair" farwest logic champion.....
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: and for your knowledge this are the rules:
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do you think that menacing me twice is "respecting"? is this the sense of the word "respect" in your Dictionary or home or town?

bye bye
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Are you referring to me cuba?
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: And if so for what reason?
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Well, you're online mate?
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: I wrote to whom I'm referring: to the author of these 2 "wonderful", "fair" phrases, full of "respect"...

"cuba dont be a noob or we will all form an anti cuba alliance eliminate you and then do the holds"

"yeah they should be able to sort this out if not i vote we crush cuba"
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: No, he's talking to Quebec, who didn't break any rules.

In-game threats to destroy a nation are perfectly acceptable.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Ok
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Cuba, please drop it. We'll find out soon who can be trusted.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Second round of holds. Yes?
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Florida is holding.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: California is holding, will finalize when everyone confirms this round of holds.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: When a mod informs you that you should hold, you hold. No questions asked
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Exactly.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: im holding as well
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: (Mapu): Is this all sorted out? I apologize for the confusion it caused, but I think it's better in the long run to play with California having a somewhat level playing field.

So Cuba and Peru are moving back this turn and then everything will be fine, correct?

Thanks -- Mapu (Webdip Mod)
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: That's what we understand to be happening.
Just waiting for Heartland to hold now.
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: I think we're good, Mapu - thanks!
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: Thanks for keeping the game interesting
06 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2000: I move back as established
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 2001: I'm all caught up now. Thanks for your cooperation, everyone!
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 2001: so we are able to move without causing problems now
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 2001: (Mapu): You are all free to play as usual. Thanks again and good luck!
07 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 2001: Remember to move this phase, everybody. ;)
21 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2004: Now we know what it looks like when you leave yourself wide open to one of your neighbors, then fail to learn anything from it and do it again a few turns later against your other neighbor.
24 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2005: Well this sucks
24 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2005: I attacked you because of your two NMRs - I couldn't sit back and let big bad Florida be the sole beneficiary of your apparent pending disappearance.
24 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2005: No I knew it was coming
24 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2005: this is a bizarre match
24 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2005: How?
25 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2005: Sucks that I had to leave this way, but I lasted as much as I could.
28 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: The Orb - Toxygene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0oziPZDTk
01 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Wishing you all well, now I'm out of course
01 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Wishing you all well, now I'm out of course
01 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Wishing you all well, now I'm out of course
01 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Wishing you all well, now I'm out of course
01 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Thanks, Jasbrum. You're welcome to share music here too. :-)
02 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: I won't decline that kind offer :)

The Who - "won't get fooled again"... until the next time that is :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
03 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 2007: Miike Snow - Animal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVWeqAPQUXc
04 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 2008: So far, I've been seeking replacement players when someone goes into civil disorder.

California, Texas, Heartland:
if Quebec goes into civil disorder, what do each of you prefer we do? Seek a replacement, continue playing without one, or 4-way draw?
04 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 2008: I guess there's two different questions there.

Would you want a 4-way draw immediately?
And just in case there isn't unanimous support for a 4-way draw, would you want to bring in a replacement for Quebec?
04 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 2008: I would prefer a 3-way draw (which you have all the power to make happen). I'd rather not see a replacement for Quebec.
04 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 2008: While I'd obviously prefer to be in the draw, I'm not in any position to survive, so I fully expect to be eliminated.
04 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 2008: I think id prefer a 3 way draw as well. No quebec just throws a terribly extending monkey wrench into the game.
04 Jul 13 UTC Spring, 2008: I'd rather draw than find a replacement, forgot to mention.
04 Jul 13 UTC I promised Heartland I'd try to keep them alive. Texas has agreed to a 4-way. Let's do it.
04 Jul 13 UTC Thanks for playing, everybody!

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Florida
gavrilop (357 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 14 D
20 supply-centers, 20 units
Texas
Scoggle (234 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 14 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
California
Tolstoy (1958 D)
Drawn. Bet: 4 D, won: 14 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Heartland
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 14 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Quebec
Atundal (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
15 supply-centers, 13 units
New-York
EddardStark97 (143 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Mexico
Jasbrum (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
British-Columbia
middleman70 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Peru
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
sinax (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
Atundal (100 D)Quebec (Spring, 2008) with 15 centres.
jrob923 (100 D)California (Autumn, 1999) with 4 centres.
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