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Finished: 10 AM Wed 19 Dec 12 UTC
Gunboats with Bullhorns
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1902, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Hey Turkey, interested in an alliance?
we only have to divide the world :)
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Black Sea neutral?
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: hmm, there i wanted to go first :D
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: okay, Bulgaria, Serbia Greexe and Trieste for you
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Rumania, Budapest and Vienna for me?
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: then you can march against Italy an me against Germany or England, or whatever
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Agreed.
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: but i want the black sea, you can conquer it from me later without any problems, but me not from you so easily;)
13 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Call this a gunboat? Bah! Allo Austria - this Italian has your back. My neighbour France, if the threat of the juggernaut comes to bear you have nothing to fear from me. Germany, I hope you feel able to divert some resources to aid against the Eastern menace, I shall help you where I can.

To our inevitable victory!
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Black Sea not negotiable. It borders two of my centers. Sorry, but Black Sea neutral or deal off.
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: okay, no deal...
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: another one, who wants to negotiate with the great czardom
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: ?
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: England, what are you saying up there man?
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Yo, holla at me czar
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: hmm you are too much away, we negotiate later, if we 2 are still on the map :)
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: I think you will find the wintergreen partnership can be a powerful one - I'm just a small nation trying to do what's best in a game I thought would be a gunboat
14 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1901: Italy we wish to have peace with your nation!
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Austria, I do apologise - took your silence to be a hostile one. I will graciously hold my forces at Venice back
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: hmm, seems you want to attack me turkey ;)
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: You knew my terms.
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: hmm, okay, neutral black sea?
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Neutral Black Sea.
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Germany will pick up three. I need a strong and vigilant ally in Russia.
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: when he wants three, he must go to Denmark, in sweden we will crash together ;)
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: I think the lure of three gains will put him in Denmark. I'm supporting your Fleet Sev - Rum if you want your A Ukr to have another mission. (Sorry Austria.)
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: I will move from Ukraine to Rumania :)
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Must say you are easy to convince, Turkey. Feel free to attack Russia and we shall be your ally.
14 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: In the end your alliance with Russia is better for him than for you.
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: why it should be better for me, than for him, it seems not logical
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: please give me support from ukraine to Rumania :)
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: i can give you support to Budapest next round :)
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Because you would have a vaste empire and Turkey would have nations everywhere. Since you are going after me it would mean Turkey has a few nations in the Balkans and then for the rest has to go for Italy. However you, Russia, would be able to create one very strong empire with this alliance, making it easy for you to backstab Turkey.
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: But you have your homeprovinces more in the middle, me and turkey have the same probleme.
we would divide you.
me vienna budapest ad rumania, and the turkish player serbia greece bulgaria and trieste ;)
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Exactly what I mean. If you conquer Germany aswell you would have a vaste empire, while Turkey's empire would be impossible to defend if you attacked him. That's the downside of this 'juggernaut' alliance. Or said differently; if Turkey want's to win, an alliance with Russia is not the best choice.
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: I see it as a better choice than A-I-T. Plus, as stated earlier, I need a strong Russia as a foil to Germany.
15 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1901: Baha! Austria....shush.
17 Dec 12 UTC GameMaster: Guevara was banned: multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
17 Dec 12 UTC GameMaster: Shevek360 was banned: multi.
17 Dec 12 UTC (jmo1121109): Due to excessive cheating this game will be cancelled tomorrow, you all also have the option of drawing the game since no one has been eliminated, I will take the majority vote tomorrow.

-WebDiplomacy Admin
17 Dec 12 UTC good
17 Dec 12 UTC how bad in game are soemone, that he have to cheat to win...
17 Dec 12 UTC Oh.. so causing a war between Russia and Turkey wasn't necessary after all.
17 Dec 12 UTC and it looks like, that if it had went on, there would was no war between us ;).

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Russia
wayne?! (168 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
England
DL (108 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Austria
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Turkey
SailingGuy (192 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Italy
Strx89 (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
France
Guevara (0 D X)
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
Shevek360 (0 D X)
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
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