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TrPrado (456 D Mod)
29 Nov 17 UTC
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ATC about to reach for a beer from the fridge
Anyone else excited?
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LeonWalras (376 D)
29 Nov 17 UTC
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The Paris Uprising of 1832 was a horrible failure
Can you name any characters that benefited from the Paris Uprising of 1832? Éponine is literally and figuratively heartbroken, Jean Valjean overcame Javert only to die of old age in the next bloody act. Is there a single positive that came from this musical?
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WyattS14 (100 D)
29 Nov 17 UTC
What's ATC?
As soon as I saw it I thought American Trans Club, but I was a little confused as to why they were reaching for a beer in the fridge..?
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
29 Nov 17 UTC
Who Are The Real Dinosaurs In Congress?
Republicans do a better job of promoting younger members, in part because they limit, to six years, the length of time a member can be chairman or chairwoman of a committee. Democrats do not impose term limits on committee leaders or so-called ranking members, the top slot for lawmakers who are in the minority.
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
24 Nov 17 UTC
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KansasBoyd has been banned.
For those interested.
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Smokey Gem (194 D)
25 Nov 17 UTC
The Time between the darnkess.
There is darkness before and darkness after.

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c0dyz (100 D)
27 Nov 17 UTC
New game
Lookin to get a game goin. 1.5 day phases, full press, draw size scoring.
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WyattS14 (100 D)
27 Nov 17 UTC
Wood USB drive boxes?
Does anyone know where I can find some wood USB drive boxes or pull door handles made specifically in China?
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yavuzovic (313 D)
27 Nov 17 UTC
Are there any reader Josh Malerman?
I read Birdbox and Black Mad Wheel and I loved them.
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Ethanol (1780 D)
22 Nov 17 UTC
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Check boxes for Variant at Search function
Hi,

i would be happy if the search function gives the ability of picking a number of different variants due to check box.
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Stressedlines (1360 D)
08 Oct 17 UTC
Anyone here make their own beer/wine?
I have been doing this for many years, and was curious if anyone else did such. It is easily my only hobby I have that I care about..lol
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Tom Bombadil (4159 D (G))
01 Nov 17 UTC
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Mafia XXXII:Mountainous Cannibals and Friends
This thread is for Mafia XXXII Participants only
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Yoyoyozo (187 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
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Happy Nondenominational Autumn Festival That Isnt About Killing Indiginous People
Happy NAFTI AKIP everyone
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ishirkmywork (1349 D)
25 Nov 17 UTC
My least favorite time of year.
http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/24/husband-of-hunting-accident-victim-her-life-was-cut-way-too-short/
http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/24/authorities-pick-up-shot-after-hunter-allegedly-mistakes-it-for-deer/
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Fluminator (496 D)
24 Nov 17 UTC
Epic story: 3rd and final part of the trilogy.
Brainbomb
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
23 Nov 17 UTC
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New mobile website coming and happy Thanksgiving to those in the US
We are hoping to push a mobile website for webDip next week. If you want to check it out, it has been implemented on Vdip. We are very much looking forward to this change as it has been requested for multiple times and it looks pretty good. Let us know what you think.
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Heywood Jablowme (25 D)
26 Nov 17 UTC
Ranking?
How do I get a ranking in this game? I am sick of being a political puppet.
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MajorMitchell (1025 D)
24 Nov 17 UTC
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Old Masters, New player names with fake IDs, Liniments & Tonics, etc,
Cheap nuclear weapons & perpetual motion machinery from wizzbang North Korean suppliers, do it yourself dentistry & surgical procedures kits for spouses, kids & let's. All available & More at the Sketchy, Dodgy & Fly~by~Night Warehouse Emporium.
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Yoyoyozo (187 D)
19 Nov 17 UTC
"Biggest Game of All Time" EOG
This thread is reserved for discussion of the gunboat game "Biggest Game of All Time" in which the some of the best gunboat players on the site slogged it out to see who would reign victorious
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President Eden (2427 D)
24 Nov 17 UTC
Gunboat musings
I have been playing a couple of gunboats lately and spectating a few more. None of these thoughts concern ongoing games, so I think this should be safe to post.
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Jamiet99uk (141 D)
24 Nov 17 UTC
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ALL FRIDAYS MATTER
These "Black Friday" campaigners and their liberal tumblrfag supporters have got a nerve. How dare they say non-Black Friday's aren't important? I say ALL FRIDAYS MATTER.

https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/11/24/white-nationalists-boycott-black-friday-claiming-fridays-matter/
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brainbomb (474 D)
24 Nov 17 UTC
Brainbombs fall classic EOG
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kanjk8 (0 D X)
24 Nov 17 UTC
slip ring with high protection price
CENO Electronics Technology Co., Ltd is a technology company,engage in research & development,design,manufacture and sales in slip ring field. Accumulated abundant experience since 2009 and offered high quality slip ring and professional solution to many industries and global customers.Manufacturing area is 2000 square meters. Registration capital is 5 million RMB.,
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President Eden (2427 D)
24 Nov 17 UTC
Automatic WebDiplomacy Poster for MANY +1s
website:http://www.webdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=25958
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Neoma (0 D X)
24 Nov 17 UTC
Where can I get a copy master degree?
We produce for all years master degree.
English Language replica novelty documents from all around the world.
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kanjk8 (0 D X)
24 Nov 17 UTC
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Pull door handles Made in China

A: The NYLOK® BLUE® PATCH is the world leading self-locking product from NYLOK USA and introduced by TSLG. The tough, resilient blue nylon patch element is permanently bonded onto the threads of a fastener to create positive resistance to vibration and loosening when engaging with mating threads.
website:http://www.slidingdoorshardware.com/door-handles/
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Mercy (1691 D)
21 Nov 17 UTC
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Hypothetical new scoring system
I had an idea for a new kind of scoring system and am interested in feedback.
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damo666 (204 D)
22 Nov 17 UTC
GAME FOR POLITICAL PUPPETS ONLY
Game = POLITICAL PUPPETS ONLY-3; Minimum games finished 10; Minimum RR% 60%. PM for Password. Thanks.
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Neoma (0 D X)
24 Nov 17 UTC
Diploma,give a chance for your future.
Are you still worried about your degree, whether you are troubled by the lack of time to study, or are you worried about not getting a degree? Now, you don't have to worry anymore! [url= www.fakedegreemall.com] Fake Degree, Fake Diploma, Degree, Academic Transcript , University Bachelor Degree.
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Fluminator (496 D)
22 Nov 17 UTC
Net Neutrality
I don't understand how this is even a debate or how anyone could think removing it is a good idea. Anyone able to enlighten me?
jmo1121109 (3797 D Mod)
22 Nov 17 UTC
Companies bribe officials to remove it.
Durga (1898 D Mod)
22 Nov 17 UTC
I think it has something to do with greedy capitalist companies winning once again.
bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
22 Nov 17 UTC
Well the guy at the head of the FCC works for Verizon, so surprise surprise?
StevenC. (1047 D (B))
22 Nov 17 UTC
@bo_sox48

I don't think he has for years.
StevenC. (1047 D (B))
22 Nov 17 UTC
Also, yeah this is a huge blow to net neutrality.
Vallk (909 D)
22 Nov 17 UTC
Ajit Pai has clearly outlined his reasons why, check out what he has to say
bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
22 Nov 17 UTC
On payroll? No, maybe not, but he's their man. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind where the loyalties of the corporate shills that hold public office lie, and I have absolutely no doubt why they hold those loyalties either. Legal bribes are a horrendous thing and every time an issue where corrupt views like his make their ways to the top while the views of the vast majority of people are stuck in the basement, I wonder how and why those practices became acceptable.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
22 Nov 17 UTC
Bo they are especially prevalent in the democratically held California state legislature, the Los Angeles county supervisors and the council and mayor of the city of Los Angeles.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
22 Nov 17 UTC
In a competitive market where one ISP can promise free and open internet and not throttling certain sites, net neutrality wouldn’t be really necessary, though getting rid of it isn’t an inherent good. And a competitive market doesn’t exist which is the big reason for people’s worries about packaging and throttling the internet could actually be realistic if net neutrality dies.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
22 Nov 17 UTC
I’ve made some half-jokes with friends about starting up an ISP that advertises “free and open internet” as the big part of the business model after net neutrality dies.

The serious half is:
If an ISP with that sort of model is available to enough Americans, and is a legitimate alternative to pay for the whole thing each month without packaging, then it leads the pack until every other ISP realizes that that’s the best way to make their money so everyone keeps a de facto net neutrality. And it’d also make everyone involved rich as fuck.

The joke half is:
No one I know has nearly enough money to even begin putting this sort of company together.
leon1122 (101 D)
22 Nov 17 UTC
The Internet was perfectly free from its inception all the way until 2014. Then the Obama introduced the 400-page net neutrality rules in 2015. Honestly, does anyone truly believe that Obama was interested in keeping the Internet free? Net neutrality has nothing to do with preserving internet freedom and everything to do with increasing bureaucracy.
Durga (1898 D Mod)
22 Nov 17 UTC
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I'm sorry what did you just say. Are you blaming this on Obama
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
22 Nov 17 UTC
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The 2015 decision was in response to the FCC’s 2014 attempts to allow ISP’s to throttle.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Also ISP’s have frequently actually tried to limit activity. It’s blatant misinformation to claim otherwise.

There are several juicy examples, such as, when it comes to discriminatory practices, in 2012 Netflix noticed Comcast had a policy of a video consumption cap that didn’t apply to its own Xfinity TV.
bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
23 Nov 17 UTC
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Lmao leon, you stay stupid shit all the time but usually at least you know the context of the stupid shit you're saying.
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
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Corporations: You, O-Baby, mind making the internet not free so we can't make money
Obama: Yeah, uh, no, in fact let me pass laws stating you can't do that so everyone has equal access to the internet.
Leon: Why you gotta go infringe on my freedom like that, Obama?
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
23 Nov 17 UTC
The assertion that increasing bureaucracy is an end in itself for literally anyone is kind of hilarious.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Even better, the FCC has been preserving net neutrality LONG before 2015. You kind find countless complaints to the FCC against ISP’s for constantly attempting to violate the free internet principle from several years before Obama recommended the Title II reclassification as an easier means of codification for the net neutrality policy they were already maintaining. The uncompetitive ISP market is unhealthy and bad for internet users
bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
23 Nov 17 UTC
Text "resist" to 50409 for a good time.
I have been trying to research this subject over the last couple of days and haven't come to a clear conclusion on it. I'm going to post my sparsely-sorted thoughts. I might not come to a clear point by the end of it, but hopefully my consideration of a couple key arguments will help others with theirs, and maybe y'all can help me too.


In theory, it is far easier to trust ISPs, which have to compete for business and don't have a monopoly on force, not to misuse their control over Internet access, than it is to trust a government agency, which is not responsive to the people and does have a monopoly on force, not to misuse their control over Internet access. In that sense, laws giving regulatory power to a government agency preventing ISPs from providing their services in a particular way is more likely to result in restricted Internet access and higher costs than not giving that agency those powers.

In practice, the utter lack of competition among ISPs in most areas of the United States sharply reduces the strength of this argument, since the primary incentive that should prevent ISPs from exerting their influence on the public's Internet access is competition...

It is true that the Internet existed as a "wild West," completely free, for the bulk of its existence with no net neutrality regulations. I find this to be a compelling argument and thus am very skeptical of fearmongering about "tiered access" or what have you, where your ISP will make you buy the Social Media Package or the Google-Amazon Package or the Sports Package or whatever. ISPs never did this before, so unless there were some compelling profit motive for them to start doing it now, why would they?
...but then, consider: Even though the Internet has expanded constantly since its inception, its userbase's time has become increasingly concentrated in smaller and more interconnected websites. Social media websites are the overwhelmingly prominent example of this. One of the major reasons ISPs would have had trouble with a "tiered access" program in the early 2000s is that outside of perhaps Google as a search engine, there were very few websites that were so ubiquitously used that ISPs could target them as the Internet equivalent of a "premium cable channel." Now, you could easily target Amazon, Google (which is more than just a search engine), Facebook, reddit, Twitter... the list goes on but only for a couple dozen sites, and you'd probably capture the significant majority of traffic in those couple dozen sites. The logistics would have been impossible in 2007, but are probably much more realistic in 2017.

Quite honestly, unless and until something is done to break up the oligopoly that is the American ISP market, I'm worried about the ramifications of repealing these regulations.
I do think the FCC claiming regulatory authority over the Internet as a utility is a joke, and that they need to go back to regulating radiowaves and stop LARPing as some arbiter of fairness in the realm of cable and Internet. In that sense I don't like the existing regulations, because I think they presume far too much about the FCC's job specifically and I think they are fundamentally cause for concern. But the correct order of operations here is first to break up the oligopoly of American ISPs and create real competition for consumers in the ISP market. THEN we absolutely should talk about getting the FCC out of its bogus self-claimed regulatory title... but *only* then.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
23 Nov 17 UTC
The more I look into the history of the regulation, the more instances I see of broadband discrimination or attempts thereof. AT&T apparently claimed that home networking (essentially using Wi-Fi in your home for multiple computers) was “theft of service,” and tried to restrict the use of Wi-Fi in general.

I agree with PE’s diagnosis, the market needs to become competitive.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Should the internet be regulated as a “common carrier” like telephone lines? If you answered “Yes”, you believe in net neutrality.

If it goes away, internet backbone ISPs will throttle everything they can to make a buck. It is practically impossible to start a company which can compete ON the existing infrastructure. You need to be as large as the AT&Ts or Verizons of the world to have a slim chance.

The internet needs to be treated like a public utility because the price gouging that will ensue will harm consumers.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Break up the oligarchy that is the ISP market? Haha. Who do you think wants to see the death of net neutrality??? They want to tighten their grip.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Jeff:

That’s why he said the oligarchy has to go before the regulations come down.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Three weeks to dismantle the oligarchy. ;)

Quick analogy: Have you ever known cable TV prices to go DOWN? That’s what will be immediately in store if net neutrality is killed.
Fluminator (496 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
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Interesting. I just found out Canada is keeping net neutrality anyway so America doing whatever will only indirectly effect us so I'm not as worried now.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
24 Nov 17 UTC
You trying to claim the FCC doesn’t have jurisdiction over Canada? The 51st state of the union?
bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
24 Nov 17 UTC
Flum, each nation's internet doesn't exist independently of others'. Some content you like might be in the United States. A number of your ISPs run cable through the United States. In fact, as far as I know, the only cable in Canada that isn't run through the United States is one that goes to Greenland and it is notoriously terrible. A tech startup in Canada that needs to route its services through the United States might not be able to because of the changing laws. Besides, it's not as if the pressure to change things based on what the United States does doesn't exist in Canada and any changes among nations in international agreements such as NAFTA can easily get to Canada.

Hopefully you're right, though.
bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
24 Nov 17 UTC
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TrPrado (456 D Mod)
24 Nov 17 UTC
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
24 Nov 17 UTC
^

Monopolies in the US where over 50% of customers have only a single choice of internet provider, are a problem.


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