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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
18 Oct 17 UTC
Math: Invented or Discovered?
Is Math invented or discovered? Give your thoughts below.
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Flame (125 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
Austrian question once again!
Please help with testing a map "War of Austrian Succession"
http://lab.diplomail.ru/board.php?gameID=51

Fast gunboat.
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brainbomb (295 D)
21 Oct 17 UTC
Niger attack is Trumps Benghazi
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/10/20/everything-we-know-about-the-niger-attack-that-left-4-u-s-soldiers-dead/
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Durga (3609 D)
22 Oct 17 UTC
Replacement for France
This game may or may not be cursed but if you want to take over France please holla gameID=206645
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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
21 Oct 17 UTC
liberal media brings Richard Spencer the attention he seeks
thus they are promoting white supremacy. Therefore the liberal media supports the white supremacist movement. So it is the liberal media that are the true white supremacists. notice how it is the liberals here that are also 'white' and are pushing the movement.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
17 Oct 17 UTC
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Forum spam
This obviously seems like the best place to advertise for hair products. I can't think of anything better. What else should definitely be advertised on webdip?
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
18 Oct 17 UTC
Compulsory National Service in the United States
One of my favorite Lincoln-Douglas debate resolutions was on compulsory national service, and I thought the sight could use an actual discussion.

Where does the rest of the world stand on compulsory national service in the United States?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Developing webdip just got a lot easier
For those who want to work on webdip, I've just created a docker harness that makes working on the code easier, as it sets up the dev environment for you:

https://github.com/TimothyJones/webDiplomacy-dev-docker
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JamesYanik (548 D)
21 Oct 17 UTC
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More Lies and Stuff
Recently there was a comment made that said I defended Neo Nazis.

My accuser is in fact a Neo Nazi. I mean... I have no proof of that, but apparently it's fine to call people Neo Nazis without any evidence now.
JamesYanik (548 D)
21 Oct 17 UTC
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That user was Ogion, but that does not matter. what matters is the claim that I am a Neo Nazi. So let me address that claim made in a recent thread:

http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1515762#1515762



"And I recall you leaping to defend Yanik when he was busy defending the neonazis in Charlottesville by pretending camping in a park is equivalent to running innocent people over with a car.

It ain't libel if it's true, Bucko."



wow. so... where is the evidence.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?????? WHAT'S IN THE BOX????

I'm afraid there are no dismembered heads here, but there are a LOT LOT LOT of lies. so let me reflect on the first time Ogion called me a Neo Nazi... that I can remember. he's done it a LOT.

*screen shimmers, flack back music plays*

ah yes, it was after Charlottesville... a terrible time.







http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1501079&page-thread=1#threadPager

Our argument was here:

"Just how many corpses do you need to see James before you admit that white supremacists are violent and people have damn good reason to take precautions when white supremacists gather?

That is who you are defending when you claim there is no evidence of violence. No evidence of you willfully ignore it maybe.

And why might you do that?”

The most disparaging part of this was the following line:

“That is who you are defending when you claim there is no evidence of violence.”

This is a direct slander against me and misrepresentation of my views. The differing of opinion I have no problem with, but character assassination is not something I can continue to ignore.

While it is usually the person who makes the claim to source responsibly, he has forced me into an awkward situation, as he is now making these claims en masse, despite my pleas for him to source me. Furthermore, now any new members on the forum who are just jumping into a thread are being confronted with blatant lies, and slander against me.

While it is much more difficult to prove a positive statement as false as I’d have to prove that every one of my posts were entirely vindicated, I can provide a thorough bought of evidence that I have said the exact opposite

Within that thread I posted the following comments, acknowledging to various extents that there was in fact violence on the far right, to varying degrees:




Page 2, 13th post down:

“And if the Antifa had been protesting their peacefully, and the white supremacists were the ones who incited the violence then I'd be backing the peaceful protestors. The problem is the videos coming out of Charlottesville show two belligerent groups colliding with one another, and I've seen some where the antifa crowd clearly starts throwing things first and where on guy throws something on fire at the white supremacists, and I saw one where the white supremacists started hitting people with clubs”

“I can agree however that the white supremacists were the ones with the murderer which is a whole other level of wrong”


Page 2. 25th post down:

“i can't tell whether or not you said never or ever... so i can't really respond to this. violence can be justified in self defense. some of the antifa probably were acting in self defense. some of the alt right probably were acting in self defense. but a WHOLE LOT on each side were willfully entering into violence.”

“the alt-right aren't the ONLY ones STARTING violence.”

Page 3, 5 posts down:

“PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE: i never sympathized with the neonazis. i ask ANYONE HERE to find a quote of me doing so. seriously. it hasn't happened.”

Page 3, 18 posts down:

“i only ever said that both sides instigated violence against one another, at some point or another. i never said "one side NEVER attacked the others." or anything of the sort

GIVE ME ONE QUOTE OGION ONE QUOTE”

“and the neonazis and alt right and antifa and blm both engaged in violence, and one neonazi killed a protestor.”

“no the neonazis were not in the right. no violence was not good. and no the violence was not necessary at some rally were nothing the white nationalists said had any direct legal or economic effect on the antifa/blm/other protestors!”

“our analogy to old Britain fell apart and you know it, but i KNOW the KKK is bad, but being violent towards them makes it WORSE.”

Page 3, 20 posts down:

“No, also not true. i fully admitted they came armed and i even addressed the fact that they started some of the fights.

i even gave you a specific video earlier back with raw footage of the fights, and mentioned how a guy with a confederate flag was an aggressor”



Here are 10 separate quotes verifiably demonstrating that throughout the entirety of the thread i have been entirely consistent in my portrayal of the right as having a violent element. Despite me presenting these quotes to Ogion, he would not respond directly to them.





Interactions on Sunday with Ogion also came to such a breaking point, where I directly told him that if he did not correct a blatant lie he attributed to me, I would contact the mods

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1500299&page-thread=6#threadPager

My post is at the top of page 6, and his response is a few posts below. He apologized and said he misattributed Brainbomb’s quote to me (cold comfort for me, and I’m glad I caught it) although Brainbomb would also go on to say he was being misrepresented.

Then on Page 7, 17 posts down in that thread, Ogion posted another claim

“And you haven't said shot to condemn the neonazis and their conduct. Not even slightly surprised at that.”

I refuted this directly with multiple quotes a few lines later:
——————
“ in my 1st post responding to you about this:

"I agree with you objectively here that this is a horrifying act"

and because you've equated Trump with white supremacism, how about THIS:

"also nah he is a piece of shit. but no regular shit, it's the type where you have been riding in a car all day and needed to go, and you had burritos earlier at the restaurant attached to the gas station that smelled funny, and you really can't hold it and then you spot some nasty old outhouse (probably crocodile infested) in some random ass field and you go in, your ass is on fire for a good 15 minutes, and then you walk bow legged back to your car, get in, turn the ignition on, and then 12 months later the damn thing is being sworn into office"

on page 1???


or how about THIS:

"and i'm not "covering" for neonazis. i've had that accusation thrown at me, and it doesn't stick to well to someone who's Polish. I DESPISE neonazis, and i despise HYPOCRISY. you're guilty of the latter. you don't see the violence on your own side because you choose to be blind."

on page 5???

or later in that same post:

"he far right nut jobs are not innocent, and should be held accountable,” ”
——————

Three posts later Ogion begins his post with this:

“Nice try James. You've shown yourself already to be a homophobe and now you're doing a fantastic job of covering for your neonazi buddies. That's not a lie, it's the reality”

with no sourcing or quotes (also the homophobe thing came out of left field... I have no idea where he picked that up at), and then proceeded to post this:

“James, what people can read is your endless deflection after a token statement. You show you're true colors when you equate a movement to address police brutality with genocidal neo Nazis, when you equate a black president talking about the murders of black people as the same as a president who is completely silent about Nazis. As Peter Wiggins pointed out, you may be a socially acceptable white supremacists, but you're still a white supremacist at heart.”

with once again, no sourcing or quotes for any of his claims.

Thankfully, TrPrado, a friend of mine caught this and got me back onto the thread (which I had earlier intended to abandon).

I decided not to contact the moderators, and was going to give Ogion a third chance. This last conversation I also demanded he answer for what he claimed about me.

he responded in his final sentence with


“I’m done, because I don't respond to gosh gallop from Nazi sympathizers”


as a part of a longer tirade against me.

accusing me of being a Nazi sympathizer isn’t something I take likely, and such an unfounded claim is all the more upsetting. anyone viewing the thread is now forced to go back and do rigorous research to determine what the truth is.

But it’s more than that.

This is not a disagreement about mathematics, where one person is arguing for 1+1=2 and the other 1+1=3

The argument is about a person’s character and their views, rather than simply reality. Both of these factors combined have forced me to eat up a lot of my time: if i do not respond, it could easily appear as an admission of defeat, but the more I ask for him to quote me on specific things I’ve said, I’ve been met with more and more slander.

This is the FOURTH time he has either deliberately or in willful ignorance misrepresented me, despite me providing direct evidence to counter his claims.

This is not matter of conflicting opinions, this is a matter of pure unadulterated misrepresentation.






so there you have it folks. the claim that I am a Neo-nazi made by Ogion has been as debunked as possible.

He does this pretty much every time anyone disagrees with him (calls them a Neo-nazi sympathizer) so everytime he makes that claim, it's necessary for me to respond to it.
ghug (5068 D(B))
21 Oct 17 UTC
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Tl;dr
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
21 Oct 17 UTC
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One thing that it isn't fine to do is make threads that are targeted at other users. This thread is locked for breaking that rule.

Hellenic Riot (webDiplomacy Administrator)


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brainbomb (295 D)
17 Oct 17 UTC
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Recent barn wave by Ezio
Can someone tell me what is going on with Ezio bringing incalculable amounts of barnyard animals into my games???
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MangoDude (103 D)
20 Oct 17 UTC
Destroy Units Bug
In Charta Runde, and other games this is just the most recent example, occasionally when I submit orders to destroy units and the orders resolve it destroys the wrong ones. I could not find a different way to contact mods so I will be posting this here. (My country is France if this is relevant)
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
09 Oct 17 UTC
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Fall 2017 School of War Sign Ups
Now is the time of year for the School of War, a program to help inexpert players improve their diplomacy skills. See inside for information on the program and the process to sign up.
102 replies
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HBbuc (103 D)
17 Oct 17 UTC
Country Win Rates
I know that everyone has their favorite countries, but I was just wondering which country is statistically most likely to win. If there any good documents PM me and I will give you my email.
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TheFlyingJarate (100 D)
18 Oct 17 UTC
Hello, I have a problem
Hello, I have a problem. I am currently participating in a couple of games, one no-talk and anonymous. My problem is that on the 22nd to the 27th (or 28th), I might have no ability whatsoever to play. I obviously can't tell that to the other players. Is there a solution to this that doesn't require me sliding into a CD?
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KalelChase (1499 D(G))
17 Oct 17 UTC
The history of the 'Draw'
Can anyone point me in a good direction on this?
24 replies
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Durga (3609 D)
18 Oct 17 UTC
New mafia game?
Who's going to GM? When is this happening?
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yavuzovic (509 D)
17 Oct 17 UTC
Can somebody find me a Whatsapp friend or offer me a site?
I have to pratice English and best way is chatting. I need a friend to talk about something.
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TrPrado (461 D)
17 Oct 17 UTC
Maltese Car Bombing
The victim was a journalist who had been doing a lot of work exposing corruption around the world (Panama Papers), and within the government of Malta. I think it shouldn’t be hard to figure out how or why this happened or whodunnit.
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LeonWalras (865 D)
11 Oct 17 UTC
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Advertise Chaos Games Here
There's a great feature on this site that lets you play the 34 player chaos variant, where every supply centre on the classic map is an independent great power. What you do is use the site like you normally would, but log in to vdiplomacy.com instead of webdiplomacy.net. It's a weird bug having to log in twice, but I'm sure they're working on fixing it.
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ckroberts (3548 D)
14 Oct 17 UTC
new game
I need a new game.
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brainbomb (295 D)
11 Oct 17 UTC
USA will fail to reach World Cup for the first time since '76
Is this symbolic of where we are in the world in everything else too?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Oct 17 UTC
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18th Annual Carnage Accords Diplomacy Tournament
This year, Carnage is pleased to host the North American Diplomacy Championships. Full tournament rules are available at www.carnagecon.com/diplomacy. If there are any questions, please feel free to contact Carnage staff at [email protected] and we will be glad to help you.
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rebecca02 (0 DX)
17 Oct 17 UTC
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Essential Oils For Hair
it’s no secret that Hot Oil Treatment For Hair https://www.rebeccafashion.com/blog/Why-Pamper-Your-Locks-With-Hot-Oil-Treatment-For-Hair/ are great. Hot Oil Treatment Benefits https://www.rebeccafashion.com/blog/Why-Pamper-Your-Locks-With-Hot-Oil-Treatment-For-Hair/ are many.
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rebecca02 (0 DX)
17 Oct 17 UTC
Essential Oils For Hair
The 6 [url=https://www.rebeccafashion.com/blog/Wave-Bye-Bye-to-Damaged-Hair-With-Essential-Oils-For-Hair/]Essential Oils For Hair [/url]
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
15 Oct 17 UTC
Does picking up a LOSING CD result in RR loss.
If you pick up a hopeless case CD do you lose RR when it is destryoed ??
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jason4747 (100 D)
15 Oct 17 UTC
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31,500 points - the Biggest Gunboat Game of All Time
If you're not spectating this, you should. It's picking up stram.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=205586#gamePanel
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SpinDoctor (80 D)
27 Sep 17 UTC
Live Gunboat Game
Anyone interested in a Live Gunboat? It's been a few days since live gunboat games are created but always fail to reach 7 players...
11 replies
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Recent Ban wave by Ezio
Can someone tell me what is going on with Ezio banning half the people in my games???
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KingCyrus (511 D)
13 Oct 17 UTC
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Happy Birthday...
To the U.S. Navy!

Fair winds and following seas.
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brainbomb (295 D)
26 Sep 17 UTC
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Dead Of Winter - Zombie survival Forum Game
Sign up here
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