oh stop whining and give you hard earned money to the government so they can take some for their salaries and then some to people who don't work for a living like a good little progressive-democrat drone

Yes. It's true.

as much as i have problems with the progressive tax rate, i have even more with the regressive tax rate. this isn't even an all-sweeping what you get out is what you put in, so therefore what you put in should change as our constant output is constant... it's idiocy.

any true conservative and liberal should be against this. the corruption in this country annoys me

*constant output is constant*

sorry, i'm in a lab right now and i want to rant, but no good can come from this.

in theory i guess i could see this as an incentive for people to produce more, to lower their tax bracket. still, up to 128,000$ is exceedingly high

oh stop whining and give *your hard-earned money to the government so they can take some for their salaries and then some to military contractors so they can continue to lobby congress for more military spending like a good little populist conservative drone.

damnit James no. you don't have time for this

Be like Trump and use other people's money to make yourself rich and pay the government as little as possible.

I'm waiting for him to upgrade the White House to gold plumbing fixtures at our expense. Then maybe his wife will visit.

@Randomizer

first we have to make sure the bowling alley is extended and diamond encrusted

This is especially unfair for low-income workers who were expecting a W-2 in the mail and instead got a 1099-MISC. Instead of paying little to nothing in taxes, they have to pay 14.12955% of their profit, easily over $1,000. Plus they have to take the time to calculate all business expenses they incurred over the last year for filling out a Schedule C form when they weren't keeping track because they thought their employer – you know – considered them to be an employee.

CAPT Brad: I'm sure you believe that bullshit too.

Maybe you should become a 'sovereign citizen' so you can avoid them altogether.

@Hauta, ehat is a sovereign citizen?

Is that like the guy who claims it is legal to drive without a license, because the interstate commerce rule prohibits the states from regulating certain things. So he can't get driving fines for speeding and such, or lose his non-existance license??

(I believe he won in court)

Yes. Prior to passage of the 16th amendment, there was a question whether the federal govt could tax people's income. Sovereign citizens refuse to pay fed income taxes because they ignore the 16th amendment.

@JECE, why were you lying when you posted it?

I was self employed and had to file a schedule SE every year for 11 years. Yes, it's completely true. Welcome to the Land of the Free. The taxes were so brutal even though I was making a poverty-level income that I had to break down and get a W-2 job a couple years back. Even though I'm no longer filing a schedule SE, I'm still paying half of that tax (my employer now pays the other half). It's still infuriating to know I'm paying massive amounts into these programs I know I'll never live long enough to see a dime from.

"This is especially unfair for low-income workers who were expecting a W-2 in the mail and instead got a 1099-MISC"

Depending on the nature of the work you do and your relationship with your employer, this may be illegal. Employers often do this to sleaze their way out of paying payroll taxes and stick their employees with them. If you can afford it, you may want to consider talking to a labor law lawyer.

It looks like you are referring to Social Security tax (12.4% for self-employed - for employees, half is paid by the employer and half is paid by the employee) and Medicare (2.9% for self-employed - again 50/50 split for employees/employer). Yes, it is insane. It is only setup this way because, unlike in other countries that provide a pension, people believe that Social Security is not welfare (it is). Thus there is an income limit for the tax as the benefit is supposed to be proportional to the tax you pay.

bump 'cause I did actually plan to reply to some points that were raised

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