I think good players strive to get better. Overcoming meta bias could be a sign of a versatile diplomat

Well, when you have people like Brad silencing players because of political beliefs and former mods like Valis making false accusations of cheating to his mod buddies to gain advantage in the game that isn't at all based on past behavior. It is waaaay beyond bounds.

But is this grounds for an investigation?

Here, here Ogion

And mods, don't you dare lecture me about calling out players in the forum. You're the ones who decided this kind of meta is fair game through non enforcement

It is ground for firing the mods team

If they don't take action here

Valis needs to be banned

Someone seems salty (not @OP). My opinion is exactly that of Damian.

Everyone lets take a deep breath. Lets all share this blanket i inexplicably found. Just shhhh and take rest my friends

I am of the opinion that the situation DO describes is nót metagaming. I am backed up in this by the rules*. I also recall a mod explaining that it's only natural for players that have played before to have certain preferences due to good/bad experiences.

"You cannot play a public game with players that you know outside of the site. (...) or even joining a game with any player of a previous game with a predetermined intent to ally with or attack certain players. Additionally, you cannot make deals based on any factors outside of the game."

So, you cannot join a game because you see Capt Brad will play in it and you want to make his life miserable. If you end up in a game with him, of course you can all-out attack him.
You also cannot join a game because you see a player you previously had a great alliance with, with the intent of allying them again. Once again, if you end up in a game with them you're naturally going to strongly consider allying with them again and that's fine.

There's nothing wrong with using prior knowledge of a player to make decisions in a game. It's basically unavoidable in non-anon. If I try to two-way with someone and they stab me for the solo, I know not to try to two-way with them in future - there's no way to erase that memory from my mind.

As everyone else is saying, if you don't want meta to come into the game, join an anon game. That's why they exist, after all.

On a seperate note, theres really no way to prevent meta-gaming 100%. Only the most blatant and game breaking types. Examples of meta-gaming which are hard to prove:
-siding against a player based on prior experience
-not wanting to side with a player based on personal differences.
-many others

What happened?

Sounds like drama

What about muting a player from turn zero before any dialogue has happened based solely on arguments over politics. I've never played with Brad before ever as far as I know. That is joining a game with the intent to attack a particular player. He had that intent before I did or said anything

I just want to know what consists of metagaming and what doesn't because I'm confused and I've only recently started playing more non-anon games.

I should point out that metagaming has been a massive (and accepted) part of the board game scene for over half a century, and non-anon games mimic this experience. There was an excellent article written about American player Tom Haver (I'll see if I can find it), who spent a decade building up a reputation as someone who would never stab an ally, and then used that reputation to win the 2014 World Championship by stabbing someone who thought he would never stab due to the reputation.

And when DO complained about Brad's behavior, apparently Calis put in a completely specious cheating accusation against DO.

That's not the kind of meta we are talking about captainmeme. Brad doesn't have any basis based in my game play to silence me in 1900

So did you neighbor him? Was it advantageous to ignore you like you were turkey he was austria or what

It's never advantageous to mute someone in 1901 without sending any press to them.

The mod team is investigating this. Feel free to email us if you have any questions or concerns.

This thread breaks the rule against making cheating accusations in the forum, so I'm going to lock it.