Well this explains brainbomb.

Im not russian yet

Really, because you always seem short on time.

I genuinely think that Russia should be looking beyond the borders. There's a shitload of quality trolls out there who would do anything for a buck.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't peterlund the guy that was convinced Putin33 is actually paid by Russian intelligence to spread propaganda on forums?

"The dictator in Moscow..."
Wasn't he elected?

He was. So was Hitler though, so that doesn't free him from guilt.

Well he also did change election laws...

I see

Hitler wasn't a dictator until he abolished democracy.

"trolling of forums like ours"

there's a word for people like you: paranoid.

"He was. So was Hitler though, so that doesn't free him from guilt."
If you want to get technical about it, Hitler wasn't directly elected. He was chairman of the Nazi Party, and they had a majority, so Von Hindenburg appointed him as Chancellor. Putin on the other hand has been directly elected as president a number of times.

I didn't really want to get technical about it :-)
A parliamentary democracy is also a democracy. Dictators can rise from functioning democracies.

@leon1122: I'm not interested in whether he was officially a dictator, but Hitler did use some extortion to get his majority if I recall correctly, so he wasn't exactly playing nice. Putin may or may not be playing nice to keep his power as well.

Also, if you have the means and the intention to abolish democracy as soon as it gets in your way, you are de facto already a dictator in my opinion. The question is whether Putin meets both those requirements.

@kasimax wrote : "there's a word for people like you: paranoid."

There is a word for people like you: "Naive kid". Please just do some simple googling you too.

@Hannibal76 wrote : "The dictator in Moscow..." Wasn't he elected?

Yes he has been formally elected many times but only the first time or two it was sort of fair. Now he has 100% control of all media and no opposition politician has any chance to get his/her message through. Putin even murders opposition politicians and independent journalists.

They say all these trolls have a username that is a variation of their great leader.

"Their great leader" is an anagram of Ah, Eager Red Litter.
Fear me.

Boris Nemtsov was an important Russian opposition politician murdered just last year on the red square infront of the Kremlin where Putin lives and works in central Moscow.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov

@DemonOverlord: How can we tell who they work for though??

@steephie http://puu.sh/oKOvl/b4e31fb1b9.png

I was joking.

@kasimax wrote : "there's a word for people like you: paranoid."

Maybe a good word for people like me is cynical or pessimistic. I guess it is our (Sweden's) closeness to Russia that make me so worried. But then again when the third world war breaks out between the dictator in Moscow and the newly elected maniac Trump, it does not really matter how close you are. Then we all die together. :)

RELAX! Trump is going to build a nuke-proof wall around Russia and the Russians are going to pay for it!

Of course! How could I have missed that? :D

Why does Russia being close to Sweden worry you?

@Hannibal76: This for instance
http://www.thelocal.se/20160203/russia-did-practice-a-nuclear-strike-against-sweden

Trump wouldn't go to war with Putin. They actually like each other, and Trump is isolationist.

@Hannibal76: Obviously the most important reason is the simple fact that Russia recently under Putin's more and more autocratic rule have gotten the habit of attacking neighbouring countries like Georgia and Ukraine

peterlund: i wasn't suggesting that these trolls don't exist. i was merely hinting towards the fact that this forum frequented by - i guess few more than a hundred people is worth their time.

@peterlund When Sweden does military drills with NATO and entertains the thought of joining an alliance whose sole purpose is to isolate Russia militarily, you're gonna have to expect some practise nucleur strikes. Any friend of NATO is a potential enemy if Russia. That's not a matter of opinion, it's fact.
As for Ukraine, I recall a thread where you and Putin where arguing over the actual nature of the Ukranian conflict. He wasn't able to change your mind, neither will I. As for Georgia: the government also was planning on joining NATO. The government then attacked 2 regions that had declared autonomy and professed the desire o become a part of the Russian state. Russia invaded to protect its geostrategic interests.
If you're going to say that Russia doesn't have the right to invade neighboring countries for not doing as Russia pleases, you're conpletely right. But a country simply cannot join an anti-Russian alliance, and station troops and heavy weaponry on said country's territory (especially if said country is on Russia's border) and expect Putin to sit back and let it all happen.
If the US and it's allies desired peace and no geostrategic conflict with Russia, NATO would have been dismantled in 1991. You can't look at problems between Russia and Sweden purely as problems between neighbors. There are larger forces at play. Always. Be it in Ukraine, Georgia, or Syria.

@Hannibal76 So if nuclear strike practice runs are normal, how often does Russia practice this towards the UK or the USA?

Sweden is currently not a member of NATO and we have no nukes ourselves. So why does Russia practice this against us? My guess is that Russia is trying to scare us to not joining NATO, but I am confident that the reaction will be the opposite.

They test UK air defences fairly frequently.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/raf-jets-scrambled-to-intercept-two-russian-bombers-heading-for-uk-airspace-a6879386.html

Russia is officially claiming that the rule of law between sovereign nations should prevail, but in practice the ignore it every time when it suits them and that is almost all the time. :/

If you're really that worried, keep your passport up to date, make sure you have a stash of cash around and decide where you want to live in case shit hits the van.

You're a European citizen and you can move freely through most of Europe. In the worst case scenario you'll be like the most priviledged refugee ever.

Just sit back and watch or figure out what you can do to make things better. Don't spend your time worrying about nothing.

That's just my two cents, but we've already established that I don't get why anyone cares about whether they're 'home' and I'm in a minority..

Unless there's a part of Sweden that actively wants to be part of Russia, you should expect to be safe from Russian invasion.

"In the worst case scenario you'll be like the most priviledged refugee ever."

I feel like you might not be very good at coming up with worst case scenarios..

I guess I decided to go with a compromise between 'worst case' and sort of realistic. Which doesn't make sense to begin with, I admit, because now it's neither.

How's this?
Worst case scenario: You are caught in the initial onslaught of nuclear war and die instantaneously without even noticing the end of the world was here.

How is dying instantly in a nuclear war the worst case scenario? How about *not* dying instantly in a nuclear war?

Pah. I don't die instantly in a nuclear war every day. It was tough at first, but I'm totes used to it now.

No little picker, you keep not dying and not being in a nuclear war...

Exactly. Oh, well, maybe tomorrow.

What happens when shit hits the van? A brief scream, and then darkness.