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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
19 Jan 16 UTC
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Best Musical Act Tournament Redux
See inside for details.
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brainbomb (295 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
How do I get webdip points @ Zultar and Point peoples
I keep playing and losing. Can I get like 300 D since this is sort of like texas holdem anyway? the points dont matter...
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yoak (1676 D)
23 Jan 16 UTC
Points in play calculation
All,

I have read the FAQ, but it seems to state that your points in play are the sum of point that you *bet*. Mine seem to exceed that, but may be correct if they are the "current value" rather than the "bet." I could do some tedious counting, but I imagine that most of the people here know, so please pardon the "lazy ask" of someone new to this site, but a long-term Dip player.
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Hastati (100 D)
24 Jan 16 UTC
Anyone here tried Subterfuge?
Its an iOS/Droid game similar to Neptune's Pride somewhat. Slow Realtime where movement takes hours to days to resolve, no RNG, and based on the Diplomacy tradition of deception and alliances. The key difference to Pride is a toroidal map and a different win condition. Anyone else given it a go?
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
23 Jan 16 UTC
Snowpocalypse Redux
How's life south of the Masspike? Only a dusting here in Boston but looks like NYC and DC are getting nailed.
19 replies
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brainbomb (295 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
I just got back from Azerbaijian
And boy are my _____________ Tired.
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jarrodlombardo (100 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
Simple rule question I'm unsure of.
Country 1: A sup B move C; B move C;
Country 2: C sup D move A; D move A;
My thinking is everyone bounces because both supports are broken. Is that right?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
23 Jan 16 UTC
Not a Live Game Thread
This thread is not intended to promote any particular game! Please discuss!
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
23 Jan 16 UTC
Press Celtic Britain Game?
Anyone up for a FP Live Celtic Britain Game tonight on VDip?
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flash2015 (1447 D(G))
22 Jan 16 UTC
When Does A Draw Occur?
When does a draw occur? As soon as all players vote for draw...or when all players have voted for draw and the next turn is adjudicated? I ask because I am in a game where the draw votes are hidden.
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Gocki (50 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
How to join
Dear Diplomaten,
I´m form Germany and I am wondering about why by many games I can look at but not join them. By games with a Password I understood but not by the others. Ist it because im unknown on this side, or why. Thanks for an Information. BR Gocki
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Sarah Fucking Palin
http://newsthump.com/2016/01/20/raving-lunatic-receives-republican-endorsement-from-pouting-simpleton/
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GOD (389 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
RL Diplomacy Runde in Hamburg morgen
Does anyone here live around Hamburg and would like to play a live round of Diplomacy? We have the location and six people, but the seventh jumped off today :/
8 replies
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MonsieurJavert (214 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
Sum-of-Squares
I can't find the descriptor for Sum-of-Squares Scoring. Could someone link to it or describe it here? Thanks.
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c0dyz (100 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
Question about centers
If a nation has two territories, one with a center and one without, and they lose the one with the center, are they defeated? or do they get more chances to gain it back?
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jmdingess (374 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Rules question I couldn't find on FAQ.
I know support is cut when the supporting unit is dislodged, but what would happen in the following scenario:
Country 1: A->D; B Support A->D
Country 2: C->B; D Support C->B
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Captain Tomorrow (438 D)
19 Jan 16 UTC
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My suggestion for a major addition to the game mechanics - something to reflect upon.
What if the game had a concept o fortification?
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EvilKanevil (0 DX)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Spectate?
I'm sorry I am new here. When I click on a game to spectate it have i joined the game? Or is there another step I have to do?
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reedeer1 (100 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
spectating games
Is there a way to see the global chat in a game your not in? it wouldn't make it so that you could tell someone something they wouldn't have known otherwise like showing private messages would do. I'm just wondering if there is a specific reason why you can't.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Removing from game?
I joined a special game, but it quickly lost any sort of extra rules. I wouldn't mind, but it is a 10 day phase world map. Is it possible for a mod to remove me without taking a hit to my record?
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ssorenn (0 DX)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Anyone have a WSJ acccount?
If so, could you get this whole article and post it here?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trouble-brews-for-imported-beers-madein-america-1435188835
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
21 Jan 16 UTC
Trouble Brews for ‘Imported’ Beers Made in America

Beck’s drinkers may be eligible for a refund on claims they were tricked into believing the beer, brewed in St. Louis, was an authentic German pilsner
ENLARGE
By JACOB GERSHMAN And TRIPP MICKLE
Updated June 24, 2015 10:18 p.m. ET
167 COMMENTS
If you thought your favorite beer was an import, think again. It may have been brewed in St. Louis…or Latrobe, Pa., or Fort Worth, Texas.

And, if that beer is Beck’s, you might soon be eligible for a refund.

The refund—of as much as $50 for Beck’s drinkers who can produce valid receipts—is part of the settlement of a class-action lawsuit claiming that the beer’s maker, Anheuser-Busch InBev NV, tricked American consumers into believing that the beer was an authentic German pilsner, when it is really brewed in St. Louis.

Even consumers who don’t have receipts may be entitled to as much as a $12 refund. And that’s true even for beer drinkers who have known all along that Beck’s is no longer made in Germany.

BEER DEBATE

Does It Matter Where Beer Is Brewed?
Production of Beck’s moved to St. Louis from Germany in 2012, according to the suit against AB InBev. ENLARGE
Production of Beck’s moved to St. Louis from Germany in 2012, according to the suit against AB InBev. PHOTO: BLOOMBERG NEWS
The agreement between plaintiffs and the world’s largest brewer won preliminary approval on Tuesday from a federal magistrate in Miami. A final approval hearing is scheduled for October.

The deal is a costly one for AB InBev. In addition to the refunds, the company agreed to pay as much as $3.5 million in attorneys’ fees and costs to Kozyak Tropin & Throckmorton LLP of Florida and three other law firms, lawyers said.

Beck’s isn’t the only brand to trade on its foreign roots. Red Stripe, owned by Diageo PLC, advertises itself as a “Jamaican-style Lager”; Foster’s, made by MillerCoors LLC, sports a kangaroo in reference to its Australian heritage, and sister brand Killian’s Irish Red alludes to Ireland in its name. All say on their packaging that they are brewed in the U.S.

Production of Beck’s moved to St. Louis from Germany in 2012, according to the suit against AB InBev. The suit alleged that phrases featured on Beck’s packaging, such as “German Quality” beer and “Originated in Bremen, Germany,” gave consumers a false impression about where the beer was made, in violation of state consumer protection laws.

“We’ve looked at other cases, and don’t think they have the same merit we brought here,” said Tucker Ronzetti, lead attorney at Kozyak Tropin, which filed a separate suit against AB InBev’s Kirin brand. “We hope the change we have brought through this settlement leads to better practices throughout the market.”

Brewers like AB InBev shifted production of imports to the U.S. after foreign auto makers did the same in recent years without losing prestige or the “import” label for brands like BMW and Mercedes.

If a BMW could make an X3 or X5 in South Carolina and sell it for the same price, why couldn’t brewers do the same? “That opened a window,” MillerCoors spokesman Pete Marino said Wednesday.

MillerCoors made the decision to move production of Foster’s to the U.S. about five years ago. The move was largely driven by costs, Mr. Marino said. The Australian brand comes in 25-ounce cans, which are heavy and expensive to ship. Foster’s is now produced from MillerCoors’s brewery in Fort Worth. The company employs an Australian brewmaster and imports yeast to make the beer taste like a Foster’s made in Australia.

MillerCoors still makes its premium imports, Peroni and Pilsner Urquell, in Italy and the Czech Republic, respectively. But it charges about 20% more for those beers than it does for Foster’s, which is about 15% more than a domestic beer like Miller Lite.

AB InBev made a similar calculation with Beck’s, reasoning it could reduce costs and provide fresher beer without hurting sales, according to evidence presented in the suit. Imported Beck’s used exclusively German ingredients, including barley, water and hops, while domestic Beck’s uses local water, barley and some domestic hops, according to the suit.

Despite those changes, the company believed the “labeling, packaging and marketing of Beck’s has always been truthful, transparent and in compliance with all legal requirements,” said Jorn Socquet, Anheuser-Busch vice president of marketing.

Brewers say it is difficult—but not impossible—to make the same tasting beer in two different countries, provided the brewer replicates conditions and uses ingredients from the same source. Brewers are able to “manipulate” the mineral content of water, said Randy Mosher, author of the book “Tasting Beer.” But North American barley is considered “blander” than European barley, said Mr. Mosher, who teaches brewing at the Siebel Institute of Technology.

Imported beers remain a small but fast-growing part of the market. Imports in the first four months of 2015 surged 11.3% to 10.4 million barrels from a year earlier, according to the Beer Institute. Over the same period, domestic volumes fell an estimated 2.7% to 55.4 million barrels, the industry group estimated.

About two-thirds of beer imports this year have come from Mexico, followed by the Netherlands, Belgium, Canada and Ireland. Germany, home of Beck’s, is a distant sixth.

Corona, the top-selling imported beer, is still brewed in Mexico, even though its U.S. manufacturing and distribution rights are owned by Constellation Brands Inc., a company based in Victor, N.Y.

Heineken, the No. 2 import, was the first foreign beer to arrive in the U.S. after Prohibition ended in 1933 and continues to be shipped from the Netherlands.

Dutch brewer Heineken NV also ships its other brands to the U.S. from abroad, including Dos Equis, which is brewed in Mexico.

A spokeswoman said that using ocean freight also has lowered the brand’s carbon footprint because its distribution network can tap into 16 U.S. ports. Outdoor advertisements in 2012 touted Heineken as “imported, which is rare for an import.”

In the Beck’s settlement, class members include consumers who have purchased the beer in the U.S. since May 2011. Once it is completed, they will be able to fill out an online form to claim a refund.

Beck’s drinkers can get 10 cents back for every individual bottle purchased; 50 cents for a six-pack or $1.75 per 20-pack.

As part of the settlement, Anheuser-Busch agreed to make labeling adjustments.

A statement on the bottle saying the beer is made in the U.S.A. will become more visible. The green boxes in which the bottles are packaged also will specify that the beer is made in America.

AB InBev faced a similar class action involving the marketing of its Kirin beer. In that case, which settled late last year in a Florida circuit court, the claim was that consumers were led to believe the beer was from Japan.
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
21 Jan 16 UTC
With WSJ articles, the direct link is usually paywalled, but if you go through Google you can usually get the entire text.
ishirkmywork (1401 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
i haven't figured out why people are still drinking this crap.
ishirkmywork (1401 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
another interesting thing -- why haven't these newspapers figured out how to make people pay for their content? all you usually have to do is view the site with in-private browsing.
ssorenn (0 DX)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Thx 2WL
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
21 Jan 16 UTC
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"view the site with in-private browsing."

Its nice to be able to bypass paywalls and catch up on news while simultaneously browsing through a staggering variety of hardcore pornography in the same browser window.
ishirkmywork (1401 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
indeed.
Hastati (100 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
I think you vastly overestimate the technical competence of the average user.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
21 Jan 16 UTC
Indeed.
Octavious (2802 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Fosters employ a brewmaster? They actually intend for it to taste like that?!?
Hastati (100 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Fosters: For Export Only


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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
20 Jan 16 UTC
Curiosity.
Mods can cancel games but can mods force draw? for example 3 players have played for weeks and a one player breaks a site rule implying the game should be cancelled but if the 2 remaining players agree to draw then can the mods force draw?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
24 Dec 15 UTC
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SRG: On the Offensive
I had an idea for an SRG, and with unraked games I think it's time to try it out.
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
08 Jan 14 UTC
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Daily Bible Verses
"You have the words that lead to eternal life." This thread includes selected excerpts from the Bible.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
23 Dec 15 UTC
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Major site scoring announcement!
See inside
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
20 Jan 16 UTC
Anyone else follow BTC?
https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7#.o1wuxqbqg

Very interesting article, been watching the XT/blocksize debacle for some time now.
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SunRa (1084 D)
19 Jan 16 UTC
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Ladies and gents, get your popcorn and mark your calender, its soon time for
http://levandevideo.se/diplomacy/
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aha195 (1687 D)
19 Jan 16 UTC
Gunboat tournament?
Will there be a gunboat tournament similar to the FP one that just started?
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ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jan 16 UTC
Need some new enemies.
FP
DSS
50-150 PTAs
25 hour phases
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yoak (1676 D)
17 Jan 16 UTC
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Feature Request: Press to multiple people
Allow press to multiple people, starting a thread where recipients are visible to members.
31 replies
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