Isnt it only if there is a clear stalemate line and someone is persisting on without giving a draw?

I think it's 3 years of no movement

Yes, we force draws during total stalemates as an absolute last resort. We prefer people to sort that out by themselves, though.

Now, in the event of cheating which doesn't effect the game up to the point it happens. Say for example it is 1910 and England, Turkey and Russia are all close in strength and the only players. England, forgetting the game is anon mentions himself by name and breaks the site rues. Technically all 3 players fought correctly to get where they are; and as long as the game is drawn before the next move set is in; the rule breach has no affect on the game to that point. So, if the game was reported could the reporting player request a draw as opposed to a cancel?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=93086#gamePanel
This is the 2012 world finals... its still going... russia won't vote draw. and so no mod has forced a draw.

CB, revealing your own identity in an anon game isn't even against the rules, let alone a bannable offense. If a player is banned, we only force cancel games they were cheating in. It's up to the players the rest of the time.

@Reedeer That's not a stalemate at all though. It's an unending, mobile war. There's a difference. The stalemate rule in nearly every Dip community is for when it's a stalemate line situation where no SCs are changing hands, and the only reason it's still going is presumably one or more players are refusing to draw solely out of hope someone either NMRs or misorders.

I was under the full impression that circumventing game modes such as HDV or Anon through the use of other means such as PM or pictures was completely disallowed.

not that I don't believe you but wouldn't that make anon completely useless if I could simply reveal my own identity?

Anonymity is yours to break or keep, or pretend to be someone else entirely. A lot of players can work out who is who just from reading people's press to them, particularly in the top games.

Other circumventions might break rule 3.

So change my example to someone sending a screenshot of their HDV games draw vote? That would be circumventing the HDV part of the game. In that instance, if it were reported with 3 players left and both other players preferred draw over cancel would you cancel instead of draw? for instance is there a appeal time for all players or just the accused?

It's not circumventing HDV because I can fake that screenshot in literally 10 seconds

Now that I know that I am employing that tactic in every game. I am now officially brainbomb whenever im in anon and will openly admit to this. I will also begin taking pictures of my draw votes and compiling a database to use for later games. mwah ha ha ..... the evil is limitless.... mwah ha ha

Fake the screenshot? Why fake the screenshot? It's much quicker to fake the page instead. Inspect Element is a powerful tool.

To clarify, I mean instead of messing and risking a pixel issue where someone can spot it, right click inspect element allows you to change how the page looks to the browser, which means your screenshot could not ever be seen as faked from a photoshop perspective at least.

Currently, webdiplomacy allows screenshots (implicitly, since we have no rules about it). Screenshots aren't allowed on another Diplomacy site (PlayDiplomacy), because not everyone can fake them, and this isn't Photoshop Hero, it's Diplomacy.

I've said this before, but generally, I tend to think that you shouldn't do anything that might make the moderators decide we need more rules. We're not here to edit webpages, we're here to play Diplomacy. That said, maybe if someone sends you a doctored screenshot, and it changes your mind whereas just their word wouldn't, then maybe you deserve what's coming to you.

inspect element.... so I looked into it and OMG this is awesome. I can make any webpage say anything long enough for a screenshot. I can make up Facebook posts and even CNN news stories

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