'You're missing the point. And factually wrong on some things.' - i'm definitely missing the point, cause i can't see what you're trying to say. And i'm happy to be corrected on the facts.

Ok, so your point is that you see both systems as intrinsic to state power.
And if the justification for that power is flawed then it is flawed for both systems.

That is a fair point. I still don't think i agree - mainly because you have both a Senate and Congress - how can it be that both are useful and good? I mean the position that the Congress is elected on a per population basis is not a reason to have no Senate, representing state power.

But you do have a point when it comes to the arguement - i just didn't see the intrinsic link between senate and president.

How and Ever, i think you're wrong about politics and people; i think people are willing to get the best of what they can. And politicians are willing to take a small win and say goodnight. That is, they're willing to campaign for electoral college reform and tell their supporters that it is better than nothing - or that they will work on senate reform next.

Just because they are linked, doesn't mean you can't do one first. Though that doesn't mean the people who would oppose Senate reform wouldn't oppose Electoral college reform on the basis of a slippery slope arguement. They might, but i don't see that stopping people from trying one (or the other) first - and most likely the one which is easier to get passed.

As for factual errors about the EU, perhaps, i don't know how the regions are decided, but a state can be a region, so they are still selected by regions. And the EU comparison is just something which is comparable. Especially when it comes to states power(in the US) vs member nations power (in the EU) - maybe it provides a contrast, but it being different doesn't mean it can't be useful for comparison.

And i was refering to the Council of the European Union, of which i consider the European Council (made up of the heads of government of all the member nations) to be one special example of the Council of ministers... but i think i said 'who knows' - honestly, who knows how the heads of government make their decisions about who to appoint???