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orathaic (1009 D (B))
09 Oct 17 UTC
How to protest the right way?
Can someone please enlighten me?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-nfl-walkout-publicity-stunt-denies-vice-president-us-kneeling-protests-a7990436.html

Apparently being peaceful isn't ok. But exiting a stadium early as a sign of your rejection of the protest is an acceptable protest.
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RagingIke297 (142 D)
11 Oct 17 UTC
Headed to downtown Chicago for a bar game
This will be my first face to face game since I moved from Ohio to Illinois in May, game starts in about 2 hours!
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leon1122 (170 D)
11 Oct 17 UTC
Feature Request
In FTF Diplomacy, players can see who other players are talking to. I would like a feature that shows who each country has spoken to during a given phase to reflect this. This feature could be turned on or off.
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
11 Oct 17 UTC
Advertise Your Live Games Here
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Smokey Gem (184 D)
10 Oct 17 UTC
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Mental Health week.
Hi all it is World Mnetal Health week.
Take some time out to work on your Mnetal health or check in on someone who you might think is not travelling so well.

Im going for a Nature Bath..( Hipster for Bush Walk ) costs $250 in SW West Aus or free if you live in the countyr like me..
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JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Oct 17 UTC
Damnit Sweden
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/hundratals-svenskar-akte-till-kriget-for-att-slass-for-is--sa-lever-atervandarn/

use google chrome to translate... there are some American websites picking up on this too. Sweden giving protection for ISIS fighters as a gist.
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HBbuc (103 D)
11 Oct 17 UTC
World Diplomacy Game
Join this World Diplomacy Game! Unrated so there is nothing to lose(or gain)! Just join to have fun!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208056
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dargorygel (546 D Mod (G))
09 Oct 17 UTC
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Eleven Letter Word Game
You know the drill... you can only change one letter to make a new word.
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Tom Bombadil (4028 D (G))
02 Oct 17 UTC
New Standard Game
Semi-anon.
48hr phases, WTA, HDV, 143pt bet
Post inside if you are interested
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MajorMitchell (1168 D)
08 Oct 17 UTC
Two great car races in Australia
Today the "Touring cars" have the Bathurst 1000 km race, and the 3000km Solar Challenge race from Darwin to Adelaide starts. Good luck to the University of Michigan team & all teams.
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TooCoolSunday (344 D)
10 Oct 17 UTC
who's in charge HELP
How do I find out who is modding/controlling a game, in order to send them a message?
Thanks
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ghug (5046 D (B))
11 Oct 17 UTC
Feature Request
I dislike bananas. I would like a feature to show when my opponents last ate a banana, as well as where that banana fell on the green-brown scale (I find green bananas less objectionable. Banana-based deserts and smoothies are unimportant, but this feature should also account for artificial banana flavors in things such as candy. I will generally leave implementation details such as how to display the color scale up to the developer, as I understand how important they are. Thanks!
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brainbomb (325 D)
10 Oct 17 UTC
The benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar
So there are many ways to use Apple Cider Vinegar
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Valis2501 (2585 D (G))
05 Oct 17 UTC
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Tempest In A Teapot 2017
Starts in 27 hours. I'm here in Silver Springs, MD. Scoring is Sum of Squares with one game each on Fri, Sat, Sun.
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Smokey Gem (184 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
Old topic new tought. Gun Control in US.
Her is a thought from my young daughter.
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brainbomb (325 D)
08 Oct 17 UTC
Are you tired of being tired?
When you wake up in the morning and your get up and go just isnt there
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SkiingCougar (928 D)
10 Oct 17 UTC
Pause voting
See Inside
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Gavin Fitzgerald (100 D)
10 Oct 17 UTC
How to create a private 4-player game?
Hi, I'm brand new to the site and wanted to create a private 4 player game with 3 other friends with the countries assigned as in the rulebook under "Alternate Way to Play" (ie, England, Austria/France, Germany/Turkey, Italy/Russia). Is this possible in wbDiplomacy?
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bo_sox48 (5013 D Mod (G))
10 Oct 17 UTC
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Happy Leif Erikson Day
In the midst of all this neverending political strife and hostility, I have just one thing to say:

HINGA DINGA DURGEN
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Oct 17 UTC
Which century is this again?
@"The U.S. on Sept. 29 voted against a U.N. Human Rights Council resolution that condemns the death penalty for those found guilty of committing consensual same-sex sexual acts."

http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/10/02/u-s-opposes-un-resolution-death-penalty-sex-relations/
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Oct 17 UTC
Seriously? I don't know that the human rights council actually gets much done, but it can get even less when the US says it is ok to murder people for their sexual orientation...
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
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http://ilga.org/downloads/HRC36_resolution_question_death_penalty.pdf

here's the text of the resolution. i am in class so i can't look over it all yet, but with these kinds of resolutions they throw in a few BIG ones (no discriminating for death penalty) and then add in a bunch of stuff that they want for more political reasons.

then when someone goes against it, they're hit with the headline "they want to kill gays" and what not.

this might not be the case, but i'm going to withhold judgement until i have time to read the entire thing
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
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2. "Calls upon States that have not yet acceded to or ratified the Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights aiming at the abolition of the death penalty to consider doing so;"

this is probably one of the contentions that the USA opposed, although it only says "consider" doing so, so there's little reason to vote against it on this one point.



3. "Calls upon States that have not yet abolished the death penalty to ensure that it is not applied on the basis of discriminatory laws or as a result of discriminatory or arbitrary application of the law;"

OR "arbitrary application of the law" well... we have specific states with death penalties with varying standards and precedents. this DEFINITELY could be a reason to vote agains the resolution



5. "Urges States that have not yet abolished the death penalty to ensure that the death penalty is not applied against persons with mental or intellectual disabilities and persons below 18 years of age at the time of the commission of the crime, as well as pregnant women;"

pregnant women? i suppose they're thinking of the baby... but with the current judicial precedent in the USA, a baby in the womb doesn't have rights in the first place...



7. "Calls upon States to comply with their obligations under article 36 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, and to inform foreign nationals of their right to contact the relevant consular post;"

goddamnit, now i have to go find THAT, whatever it is and see whether or not we like that. i'll give it a pass, and assume it has nothing contentious.



so it's not JUST that we were voting on.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
03 Oct 17 UTC
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I was waiting for a statement from Nikki Haley.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Oct 17 UTC
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@JY thanks for that link, i'll look at it now.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
03 Oct 17 UTC
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Apparently the US supported two amendments from Russia, one saying that the death penalty isn’t necessarily a human rights violation, and another saying that the death penalty is not in and of itself a form of torture but can lead to it. Both amendments failed. Is the failure of those enough not to vote for the resolution? I don’t know.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
03 Oct 17 UTC
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-gay-sex-death-penalty-un-same-sex-relations-human-rights-council-saudi-arabia-iraq-nikki-haley-a7980981.html

Here’s the source I used that mentioned the US support of specific amendments. Beyond this, I haven’t seen anything other than speculation that points to real motive.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Oct 17 UTC
There may be reasons to assume the US is against reconsidering signing up to abolish the death penalty.

So this raises a question, instead of looking at the US as if it was the self-appointed 'leader of the free world' why not take a historical view of the US as a former european colony.

Why is it that compared with other former European colonies in the Americas the US feels very much out on its own.

On the death penalty, Mexico and Canada, along with most out south and central America have abolished it.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/10/15/global-death-sentences-and-executions-in-2015.jpg

Almost all of Europe has (including Russia, which is listed there as abolitionist in practice... they have 'a moratorium and has not conducted an execution since 1999.')

If the US is so culturally similar to Europe, and other former colonies, and there is a strong feeling among some that the death penalty is wrong. Why hasn't the US followed the 'rest of the free world' in abolishing the death penalty?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Oct 17 UTC
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To keep the US company on this, you have, North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Libya, and Egypt. (ignoring Japan, India, Pakistan and China).

Not the best company to keep, if you ask me.

Randomizer (104 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
Number 7 about informing the consulate has been a regular complaint from Mexico to the US regarding its citizens arrested for crimes in the US. However the US has the same complaint against 3rd world countries like Iran.
Ogion (4059 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
Right. This is the country we're supposed to stand up and be proud of during the anthem.

smh.
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Oct 17 UTC
The problem is, the US federal government doesn't have control over the death penalty: it's for the states to decide. That makes international discourse on this VERY difficult
Deeply_Dippy (458 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
To pick up Orathaic's point about colonial history - which is a blindingly good one - it seems to me (as an outsider) that in some ways the US has never moved out of a 18th Century cultural kindest.

Consider GB in the 1700's; we had public executions, an armed militia and a Hunger for colonisation based principally on commercial greed. This included the exploitation of indigenous peoples and slavery. The only real control rested in parliament and the Crown.

Compare that to the modern US. Rampant gun crime and associated violence, appalling problems with facial integration and a head of state with immense power only moderately controlled by a parliamentary body more concerned with playing politics and preserving the free market than driving social change and improvement.

That's how it looks to me anyway.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
what social change do you want Congress to drive forward? Keeping in mind, that each state has a lot of control over many issues that you would want those changes made
orathaic (1009 D (B))
04 Oct 17 UTC
@"That makes international discourse on this VERY difficult"

That's fair, for the US it is a conversation between states (interstate rather than international) - so infact this is the map i should link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States#/media/File:Death_penalty_in_the_United_States.svg
orathaic (1009 D (B))
04 Oct 17 UTC
That said, the federal government could remove the death penalty for federal prisoners.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
04 Oct 17 UTC
https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/10/03/u-s-explanation-of-vote-resolution-on-the-question-of-the-death-penalty/

Here was the initial statement on the matter from the US, given on September 29. This statement was largely ignored by news sources reporting on the matter, saying no such statement or explanation was given. I’m response:

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/national/nikki-haley-u-s-not-vote-gay-death-penalty-article-1.3539883

It might be easier to find if there weren’t some dumb Hatch Act bullshit clogging up the news cycle dealing with Haley.
Ogion (4059 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
That's absurdly lame as an excuse. Even for the Trump administration that's some pathetic ass covering

What's next, putting forward a resolution that child sex slavery is ok?
Ogion (4059 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Oh wait. I forgot, we've already done that. The US is the only UN state not a party to the convention on the rights of the child

Oh, but respect that flags, dontcha know?

Kneeling is too respectful. Mooning might be more approriate
orathaic (1009 D (B))
04 Oct 17 UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furman_v._Georgia

So the US almost ended all death penalties in the late 60s by supreme court decision...

How did other former colonies and european countries end up getting rid of their death penalties?
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
04 Oct 17 UTC
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Funny how the biggest whiners don't back up their words and leave the country they claim is so terrible. Surely it can't be too hard for people so smart to find a better place where they would be much happier.

Just a bunch of hot air and meaningless words.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
04 Oct 17 UTC
High Larious.
CroakandDagger (718 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
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Personally I agree with the US in this instance.

It would be Islamophobic to condemn nations in which homosexuals are given the death penalty.
Al Swearengen (0 D X)
04 Oct 17 UTC
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@orathaic,

What century are we living in, you ask? What century indeed. We live in a century where some people still acknowledge that individual states have the right to determine their own internal affairs. Unfortunately your point of view tends to imply that we'd be better off acceptable globalist dominion.

Have fun when the storm troopers show up to lock you up for wrong think, Sir.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
04 Oct 17 UTC
“Unfortunately your point of view tends to imply that we'd be better off acceptable globalist dominion.”

We would, but that’s not the point.
CroakandDagger (718 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
We wouldn't, for the record. Democratic governments are so stable because the power rests in the hands of the people and they can hold their politicians to account.

As more and more power slips to unelected internationalist institutions, the less acoountable to the public politicians and bureaucrats become, increasing the unrest in those nations worst afflicted by the scourge of globalism.

Just look around.
Ogion (4059 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Hey, Al, locking you up for the wrong think would be fine, because it's the right of the state to do whatever it wants, right? Of course, if there's a concept called human rights that might be brought to bear to protect you, maybe.

Or maybe you are admitting that you think there's bascially no issue with killing gay people for being gay?
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
04 Oct 17 UTC
“We wouldn't, for the record. Democratic governments are so stable because the power rests in the hands of the people and they can hold their politicians to account.”

International federation, my dude.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Globalism is an inevitably brought on by the unstopability of capitalism. So it’s tied to freedom intrinsically.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
04 Oct 17 UTC
Similarly, nationalism largely comes out to push a socialistic agenda.

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brainbomb (325 D)
01 Oct 17 UTC
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Trump Tweets from Golf Course that Puerto Rico is asking for too much help
Brilliant
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
06 Oct 17 UTC
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October GR Published
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
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leon1122 (170 D)
05 Oct 17 UTC
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Build the Wall!
The House Committee on Homeland Security has passed a bill today that gives $10 billion of funding to build a wall on the Mexican border, $5 billion of funding to secure ports of entry, and $35 million of reimbursements to States that use their national guard to enforce border security.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-committee-approves-10-billion-to-fund-border-wall/article/2636551
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BrosPros (100 D)
08 Oct 17 UTC
Is the "World Diplomacy IX" variant any good?
I wanna start a world diplomacy ix game is it any good? I've seen many games of it and I wanna know.
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The Ambassador (114 D)
09 Oct 17 UTC
Napoleonic... how awesome
http://www.vdiplomacy.net/variants.php?variantID=101
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Randomizer (104 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
The Aliens are coming!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/time-traveling-drunk-man-says-155541478.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_06

Douglas Adams speculated that inebriation helped to protect the body during matter conversion.
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brainbomb (325 D)
06 Oct 17 UTC
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Mawd Team Announcement
A raging lunatic has agreed to join the mawd team. Please join me in thanking him for volunteering to help us keep the site sanity free and wish him well as he sacrifices any semblance of a social life in the name of making webDip great again.
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
07 Oct 17 UTC
Vegas...
Note: https://www.theroot.com/this-is-only-the-deadliest-shooting-in-u-s-history-bec-1819112938
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Randomizer (104 D)
04 Oct 17 UTC
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Republican Family Values
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/politics/tim-murphy-abortion/index.html

It doesn't apply to them in private. Abortions for their wives and mistresses. Extra marital affairs and Newt Gingrich wanting oral sex so he can truthfully say he didn't sleep with her.
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jason4747 (100 D)
07 Sep 17 UTC
Baseball and steroids and math
KansasBoyd, better to take our baseball discussion out of the Hurricane/Climate Change as we are juuuust slightly off topic
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