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JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Is This Bipartisan?
so conservatives don't like forcing taxes from people, and liberals like social programs. so, how do we fund social programs without taxes?
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lalaland (0 DX)
21 Mar 17 UTC
Greetings, join a live game if you inquire....
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194403
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LeonWalras (865 D)
21 Mar 17 UTC
John Rawls!
The purpose of this thread is that if you knew everything about it, you'd be willing to enter it in a random place.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
21 Mar 17 UTC
Economics of News
I know we touched on this in the Glenn Greenwald thread, but vox has a great youtube video about it...
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Ogion (3817 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
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Meanwhile, massive coral die offs three decades early
While the genius Republicans are screaming "fake news" the real world (I.e., the planet Earth) is suffering hideous consequences from conservative stupidity.
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brainbomb (295 D)
21 Mar 17 UTC
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Tomi Lahren suspended from the Blaze for admitting shes Pro Choice
“You know what? I’m for limited government, so stay out of my guns, and you can stay out of my body as well."
The republican love affair with Tomi Lahren has met an awkward crossroads.
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The Ambassador (129 D)
20 Mar 17 UTC
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WebDip Hall of Fame covered on DiplomacyCast
Hi everyone, a new episode has (at last) dropped for the Diplomacy Games podcast...
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SeattleSlew (100 D)
21 Mar 17 UTC
Old and Slow
Anybody up for a classic 3 day phase game? I'd like to give this site a try
gameID=194359
Password: Graves
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dobreni (0 DX)
18 Mar 17 UTC
how do you think a team game wll be fair? how many teams ?
3 teams
1 Fr+En
2 Tr+Ru
3 It+Au+Ge
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
15 Mar 17 UTC
GB 1 and 2
Since one game is stuck in pause purgatory and the other is an NMR ridden disaster, who wants to start a new round? No RR requirements but I have final say over who plays.
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gjdip (977 D)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Replacement needed F01
Russia NMR in S01. Replacement much appreciated. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194119.
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Fluminator (1500 D)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Climate Change Denial
So recently I've been considering becoming a climate change denier. What are people's thoughts on this? What would be some pros and cons to becoming one?
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Crazy Anglican (1075 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
"Everyone show up for this school" EoG's
If you want to post here.
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Tastyjc7 (100 DX)
20 Mar 17 UTC
Join full web dip
I want people to join the game because it's no messaging and it's anonymous so it's just pure 1v1 with everyone! Let's see who is the best!
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Chanakya. (703 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
Why are people not playing LIVE games nowadays?
I am back after a long time. 4 years to be precise. But when I left, there used to be a lot of LIVE games all the times. Now, whenever I peek the website out of curiosity, I never find a LIVE game. I tried making rooms, but no one ever joined!

What happened here? :p
Care to brief me a bit?
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CptMike (4384 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
Does a tap on our unit cancel their support ?
Let's assume I have 2 units ( A and B ) and I give these orders :
A supports [ Anything to Anywhere ]
B moves to A
Is the support of A cancelled or not ?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Mar 17 UTC
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RIP Chuck Berry
Of all the people that have influenced music in the last 60 years, from the Beatles to Muddy Waters to whoever you like, Chuck Berry will probably be the one they still talk about hundreds of years down the road. A real legend in music.
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spacecadet (294 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
is playing with noobs harder?
yo, i got a question.
am i the only one finding it extremely hard and frustrating playing with new players?
i am not the most experienced player in the world, but ive had my share of games and reading on the game.
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Manwe Sulimo (419 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
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Proposed Budget
How ridiculous is this thing???

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
18 Mar 17 UTC
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Taxes on the rich are too low
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_tax_cuts
I've been bitching about America's high military spending compared to other countries, but as a % of GDP it has remained steady at approx 5%. Still high but...
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Djharkavy (108 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
American Empire 179318
American Empire
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Djharkavy (108 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
American Empire 179318
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Djharkavy (108 D)
19 Mar 17 UTC
World game 170318

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194219
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Randomizer (722 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
Solving unemployment
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/us/white-irish-undocumented-trnd/index.html
Export those deadbeats to the US and then get the illegals to skip ahead of the line to become US citizens.
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tobyjoey (0 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
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World Diplomacy Map Alterations
Hello WebDiplomacy. I have a group of people are making a physical World Diplomacy map for a big event, but we have agreed the board has some problems. Most of the people weighing on this issue say they want to take away South Africa's unit in Antarctica and instead put it in Madagascar as a fleet. However, I am worried that, unless South Africa and Argentina actively worked to stop this, it would give Antarctica too many possibilities for expansion in its home continent.
tobyjoey (0 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
If anyone has any suggestions for this change, or any other ways you would like to see this variant get balanced, I would love to hear it.
Mercy (2124 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
Interesting. A while ago, I was also thinking about making a 'physical' World Diplomacy map, and I now plan to try to rebalance the current World Diplomacy map in the summer, but just for purposes of online play.

I agree that the world map has problems, but to be fair, I don't think there are any easy fixes. Your example in which you would remove South-Africa from Antarctica but won't change anything else on the map wouldn't make sense; not only Frozen, but also Argentina would be too strong if you did that. If you want to make changes, many different changes at once need to be made, and not just changes regarding supply centers. Most of what's wrong with the world map is due to powers having too few attackable neighbours, and to fix that, huge changes to neutral areas need to be made.

Let me give you one specific example. Pacific-Russia borders Russia, but doesn't have a large front with him, which makes war between these two unlikely in the early game. Pacific-Russia and India should border, but there is a ridiculous amount of neutral supply centers between them, so war between them is unlikely in the early game, too. Pacific-Russia should also border Western-Canada, but doesn't, which makes war between these too also unlikely in the early game. This leaves China as the only real viable option for Pacific-Russia to attack. Guaranteed enemies are bad for the balance of the game and this is why China is the worst country on the board. You could fix the situation by significantly reducing the number of areas in central Asia, or just create an entirely new central Asian power, and by making a water territory that borders both Pacific-Russia and Western-Canada.

But these kind of changes require a lot of time and skill to do properly, and they need to be done all over the map. It is for this reason that I delay this project for myself until the summer. It's also why I would suggest that if you are not willing to spend a lot of time on the map, I suggest changing nothing at all - for there are no easy changes. Or, if this project of yours is in no rush,you could wait and we could look to it together. :p

For your interest, here are some statistics about the world map: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1460060#1460060
slypups (1889 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
Similarly, Antarctica and Oz almost always have to attack each other in WorldDip. Even if they want to work together, it's difficult to make it work in a way that helps both of them.
Mercy (2124 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
I only somewhat agree. Oz and Frozen can work together well, but it is too favorable for Frozen to stab Oz immediately if Oz trusts him in the early game.

The biggest example of two countries that have to attack each other are Brazil and Argentina I think. I have literally seen no single game in which they were peaceful to each other in the early game.
Europe is crap. Europe can't get builds and just waits for Russia to kill him, or ineffectually fights off Russia until Ghana kills him.
JamesYanik (548 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
make a land bridge from germany to skandinavia, like in classic. simple.
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Mar 17 UTC
I think the most balanced continent is NA in world. I've seen games go many different ways there.
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Mar 17 UTC
I think the best way to balance world would be to balance each continent independently and then balance the ability for continents to fight each other. Effectively it would mean the game would be played in 3 phases : continental dominance/stability, hemispherical dominance/stability , global dominance/stability.

Example if you split the board into regions (Oceania, Asia, Africa, Europe, North America, South America) you can then use neutral territories densely packed to represent mountain ranges as natural boundaries making cross continental conflict difficult until continental stability is achieved. i.e by making the Ural Mountains very hard to overcome you can separate Europe and Asia. Make the deserts of North Africa and the Middle East similarity difficult to overcome. Make the large stretches of water between Asia and the Americas hard to overcome. Keep repeating this and you have in theory 7 small games of diplomacy that combine in the late game.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
17 Mar 17 UTC
gameID=106959

for a brazil/argentina alliance example @Mercy
mitomon (511 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
@swordsman I've seen Europe solo

gameID=156173
@mitomon Most of the players in that game were novice players, so I am not persuaded.
Mercy (2124 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
@swordsman3003 Maybe statistics can convince you? Europe isn't so bad statistically: thread=1460060. Europe can gain a lot from an alliance with Near-East against Russia, and Europe can ally with either Libya or Ghana against the other.

@CommanderByron I don't like your idea at all. For me, a map with 17 players is fun because there are so many different people influencing you (directly or indirectly) and because of the endless possibilities. If you just create smaller games inside the larger game, you ruin that.
Also, while I think North America is balanced if you would only look at the continent itself, I don't think it is balanced in the bigger picture. The American continent is very isolated from the rest of the world, meaning that Western-Canada and Quebec don't really have neighbours from other parts of the world that could pose an early threat to them. But USA is likely to be attacked from South-Africa as soon as one of the two powers gets the upper edge there. This makes USA a worse country than Western-Canada and Quebec.
Also, I really don't like that in the very early game, virtually always (when messaging is allowed) two of the powers in North America unite against the third. If you are the third country in this, you have basically no chance of recovery because there is no one else that you could convince to attack your enemies in the very early game: Brazil will be occupied with Argentina and like previously stated, Western-Canada and Quebec aren't really theretened by any non-American power in the early game. So I'd say that there are too few options for this part of the world.

@y2kjbk Interesting example. If one of them would have stabbed the other at turn one, the other would have been dead, though (especially Brazil), so they took a great risk.
Mercy (2124 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
@swordsman0303 I meant viewthread=1460060
@ tobyjoey
You might consider asking on vDip as well. They're much more used to creating balanced variants than we are.
Mercy (2124 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
Will this work as a link to the statistics? threadID=1462734
Mercy (2124 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
Sorry for the spam. This link will lead to the statistics => threadID=1460060
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
18 Mar 17 UTC
I mean in a way the game already kind of plays out as several smaller games. There are regional splits and even Classic has this functionality as for the most part you have an eastern and western theater. It's not that the split would be obvious but it should exist. You still have the option of a continent saying "let's not fight let's work together and attack X area. I think this could encourage interesting alliances while stabilizing the game to not benefit any one country.


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dobreni (0 DX)
18 Mar 17 UTC
game : starting in 15 min , one more needed pls
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=194176
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
29 Dec 16 UTC
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Official Donation Drive and Future Plans
See inside for details.
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Durga (3609 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
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Petition to ban Capt Brad from full press games
Hi everyone. I'm starting a petition to ban capt brad from full press games. I love capt brad as much as the next person, but I think he's harming the integrity (or something) of the non-password protected full press community. Not only is he in 47 games, but he doesn't send press. Someone pls stop this
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brainbomb (295 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
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Ketchup or Mustard
The federal government.
HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY FOOLZ
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ll667 (100 D)
17 Mar 17 UTC
Join Mediterran Shift
You are invited
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