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peterwiggin (14473 D Mod (S))
Mon 13 Feb UTC
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Turkish strategy thread
Seriously guys, stop baiting each other and somebody teach me how to play Turkey. I lost all my press games as Turkey in 2016.
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
Tue 14 Feb UTC
When leaks are just?
https://mobile.twitter.com/cgreensit/status/831573047962386432/photo/1
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SuperMario0727 (90 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
Italy Opening Strategy: Early Attack on France?
Venice goes to Piedmont, Rome goes to Tuscany, and Naples goes to Tyrrhenian Sea. If France moved Marseilles to Spain, he will be forced to take a guess at whether Italy will enter Marseilles or leave it vacant. If Spain re-enters Marseilles, France will have a slow start against Italy. And if Italy gets into Marseilles and Tunis, he will get two builds. Thoughts?
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Hannibal76 (288 D (B))
Mon 13 Feb UTC
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Where'd the new rules come from?
I usually try to stay updated on what people talk about in the forum daily. Recently I haven't been able to and I came back to find that their are new rules regarding how shitty we can be to each other on the forum. I understand that there was a thread that was so bad the mods felt the need to make more rules. Anyone care to tell me what was said that was bad enough to warrant this?
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stupidfighter (265 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
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Daily All Topic Thread
Please make all forum posts here and only here.
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SuperMario0727 (90 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
St. Petersburg to Findland: Should Russia Ever Make This Move?
The title says it all: is there ever a situation or scenario in which Russia should move his fleet in St. Petersburg (South Coast) to Finland? What kind of diplomatic arrangements need to be made for such a move to occur?
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goldfinger0303 (947 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
Historical Muslim Invasions of Europe
Poiters, the Siege of Vienna, Fall of Constantinople. Let's talk some old European history, and how the world was shaped as a result
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
Tue 07 Feb UTC
What are 'the ideals America has stood for'
Given certain interviews, and unstated assumptions, i guess i want to ask what is unstated (if you don't know the background to this see: https://youtu.be/b2M9TE7ZJCI )
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brainbomb (301 D)
Sun 12 Feb UTC
What is the coolest fantasy realm map?
Westeros vs. Middle Earth vs. Skyrim vs. Ansalon vs. (Add any others here)
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abgemacht (831 D (G))
Sun 12 Feb UTC
TotalCon in Marlborough, MA Feb 24th-26th
There's still time to sign up for the Diplomacy Grand Prix at TotalCon!
http://www.totalcon.com
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Chaqa (2774 D (B))
Mon 13 Feb UTC
Muslims invading Europe
What are your best Turkey strategies?
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Jamiet99uk (80 D (B))
Mon 13 Feb UTC
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White Christians invading Muslim Lands
What are your best strategies for defeating Turkey in Diplomacy?
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SuperMario0727 (90 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
Austro-Hungarian-Turkish Alliance: Just for Fun? Or Turkish Delight?
Turkey and Austria-Hungary work together against Russia, with a passive Italian player. Turkey moves into Bulgaria, Black Sea, and Armenia. And Austria-Hungary moves into Rumania and Galicia. Is this just pure fantasy? Or will Austria-Hungary and Turkey be treating themselves to Turkish delight by the end of it?
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Egathetos (7 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
Newb Question
I occupy province A with an army and I had province C (not an SC) but now it lies without an army. Between A and C is province B with an enemy army who is ready to strike province C. A and C don't share border.
If I stike B from A, do I stop him from taking C?
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Manwe Sulimo (623 D)
Thu 09 Feb UTC
Buying this Site
See below
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Carebear (100 D)
19 Jan 17 UTC
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Cross-site Diplomacy Tournament
www.PlayDiplomacy.com is hosting a cross-site Diplomacy tournament. We have *eliminated* the paid premium membership requirement to allow us to invite members from other sites. WebDiplomacy players with strong reliability ratings and ratings in the top 10%+/- on this site are invited to participate in this event .
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stranger (484 D)
Mon 13 Feb UTC
gunboat related - grabbing Munich in 1901
I find that a lot of players that start as France would actually try to get Burgundy into Munich in gunboats in Autumn 01. What is the point of that? Germany will have to build armies to get France out again and thus put England in a massively advantaged position.

Thoughts?
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Peregrine Falcon (1133 D (B))
Mon 13 Feb UTC
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Colours of the Great Powers on WebDip
Why does WebDip have the colour allotment it does?
In the original rules, it says that Austria is Red, England: Dark Blue, France: Light Blue, Turkey: Yellow, Germany: Black, Russia: White, Italy: Green. Why change England and Russia?
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cb6000 (282 D (S))
Thu 09 Feb UTC
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The need for two forums
See below
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glo2018 (711 D)
Thu 09 Feb UTC
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Rule Hypocrisy
the people that made a rule against "Sexism, racism, homophobia, and other forms of bigotry" but allow cussing i think is quite hypocritical. if you allow people to cuss on this site then why is it wrong for someone to politely state their belief that homosexuality is a sin? if this forum was made for people to voice their opinions and opinions are allowed on other matters then why is it wrong to voice your opinions on sticky subjects?
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brainbomb (301 D)
Fri 10 Feb UTC
Why did we invade Klendathu?
What value was there to the planets owned by the bugs? Why not just nuke them?
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Chaqa (2774 D (B))
Fri 03 Feb UTC
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Petition to rename St. Petersburg
St. Petersburg as a territory name is offensive to anyone who isn't Christian. We need to change this to be more welcoming to other religions.
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SuperMario0727 (90 D)
Sun 12 Feb UTC
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Switzerland: No Man's Land.
Let's assume that Switzerland is no longer impassable. What effects would that have on the game, the strategy, and the tactics? Should Switzerland stay a no man's land, or might it be more interesting to make it a playable space? Perhaps it could be a neutral supply center, or just a neutral territory. What do you guys think?
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SantaClausowitz (194 D)
Sun 12 Feb UTC
Live tournaments
Questions:
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SuperMario0727 (90 D)
Sat 11 Feb UTC
Turkey Opening Strategies: Moving to Syria?
Turkey opens normally, except the fleet in Ankara moves to Constantinople, and the army in Smyrna holds. The army in Smyrna then moves to Syria. Turkey can build a fleet in Ankara or Smyrna, depending on whether he is going after Russia or Italy. This is not my idea. I was just curious to know what you guys think about it. Is a Turkish move to Syria just plain silly, or might it have some serious strategic effects?
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CommanderByron (423 D (S))
Fri 10 Feb UTC
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Relinquishing the forum
Hey I'll be at work for a few hours don't want anyone to get worried. Just thought I'd let you guys know I won't be posting.
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
29 Dec 16 UTC
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Official Donation Drive and Future Plans
See inside for details.
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Yonni (659 D (S))
01 Jan 17 UTC
baller
captainmeme (561 D Mod)
01 Jan 17 UTC
@Zultar - What does the adamantium badge look like?
zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
01 Jan 17 UTC
LOL, I haven't figured out what platinum and adamantium look like yet, but maybe three claws for adamantium?
captainmeme (561 D Mod)
01 Jan 17 UTC
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I have an idea

http://i.imgur.com/f95XfOy.png
zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
01 Jan 17 UTC
:(

Actually the text says Co -Site Owner for platinum currently. When it's fixed, the star should say site co-owner.
Jamiet99uk (80 D (B))
01 Jan 17 UTC
Platinum and Adamantium donors should get an actual Platinum or Adamantium medal sent to them in the mail, plus a certificate signed by Zultar, Kestas, and Jmo.
Jamiet99uk (80 D (B))
01 Jan 17 UTC
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They could wear their medal at F-T-F gaming events and conventions... or when making love to their RealDolls.
captainmeme (561 D Mod)
01 Jan 17 UTC
I found a good adamant medal icon

http://i.imgur.com/XR6xo73.png
CommanderByron (423 D (S))
01 Jan 17 UTC
Solution:
Adamantium- X-men symbol black and gold
Platinum- silver with white line through to illustrate its shinier
twinsnation (734 D (B))
01 Jan 17 UTC
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I gave but did not see where to tell them whom I am
CAPT Brad (1216 D (B))
02 Jan 17 UTC
jamiet is being disrespectfull
steephie22 (182 D (S))
02 Jan 17 UTC
Would it be possible for us to know what company you consider working with and stuff like that? I know that $10,000 is realistic for all the stuff you mentioned for instance, but there's no harm in using this community to see if anyone has a better suggestion for you. Of course, the site owner keeps the veto, but I think it's only fair to be transparent and listen to the community where you can when asking for this kind of money. I for one would like to hear.

Also, just a clarification: is this fund kept seperately from the donations towards hosting the site? I'm just curious.

On a less serious note, perhaps the One Who Shall Not Be Named would be interested in doing this ;-)
abgemacht (831 D (G))
02 Jan 17 UTC
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You should hire steephie
steephie22 (182 D (S))
02 Jan 17 UTC
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You should not hire steephie.
zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
02 Jan 17 UTC
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We've asked for suggestions for months. If you have suggestions about who can do this stuff, let us know. You can reach us at webdipmod@gmail.com. As of yet, we don't know who will do this for us. I am working on finding such a dev.

This donation drive is kept separate from the donations hosting the site.

On that last note, thanks for the laugh, but we have seen said person's codes multiple times on the forum and we would rather have a broad expert to do the work than said person. ;)

On a more serious note though, the site's code is open source and if you think you can contribute to the features we are looking for, please feel free to work on it.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
02 Jan 17 UTC
You might be missing my point, I'm not sure. I'll clarify just to be safe.

What I mean is that you're suddenly going from completely voluntary without any kind of payment to a professional full-cost solution, without exploring the middle ground. I can imagine that there's suitable people in the community who are looking for this kind of project and don't want $250/hour for it, but don't want to do it for free either. They might just want compensation for their time, because time is money, but still ask far less for a good job.

Did you explore that option as well? That's what I meant.
Of course, if you consider this an option as well, you do need to decide whether you would be willing to work with people who have the skills but lack a great portfolio and therefore aren't risk-free. Those would be most likely to fall under this option.

Basically, with this kind of thing you can either take the premium sure-fire approach for $10k or the 'mostly qualified but not risk-free' approach of, say, $4k.

Similarly, are you going for a risk-free American, Australian or Western European company or are you going for the skilled-and-cheap Indian or Polish (I know Polish might not be your first guess but I've heard good things about a company there actually!) people?
The advantage of hiring cheaper people is that you can have two shots at it and still pay roughly the same in the end.

Right now, you make it sound like getting the job done costs $10k, period. In reality, it's heavily dependent on your exact criteria for the people you're hiring in particular.
I'm not telling you what your criteria should be. I can't decide that for you. Just make sure that you make a conscious decision there, and consider sharing that decision with us.

My programming skills won't help this site any further I'm afraid. Right now, I merely try to know enough about programming languages to be able to see the difference between an unskilled worker and an undervalued expert.
CAPT Brad (1216 D (B))
02 Jan 17 UTC
Where were you when the pen was full and the paper blank?
steephie22 (182 D (S))
02 Jan 17 UTC
Until I read this thread, I was under the impression that the plan was to spend no money on development. I'm pretty sure I suggested something like this before, but there wasn't much enthusiasm for spending money on development yet.

Anyway, just trying to contribute in my way. If zultar would rather have me shut up, he should let me know and I find that completely acceptable.

Spending $10k for a website like this should be a reiterative process anyway. Consider, consider from another perspective and reconsider some more, then make the deal.
abgemacht (831 D (G))
02 Jan 17 UTC
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If there is any member of the site who has the interest and ability to work on this for compensation, I'm sure they've read this same thread and would contact zultar.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
02 Jan 17 UTC
That's a fair point.
bo_sox48 (4320 D Mod (G))
04 Jan 17 UTC
Bumpo
steephie22 (182 D (S))
04 Jan 17 UTC
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Donate button says: "If you decide to donate by clicking the button below please let me know your username so we can add a donator marker to your profile."

Doesn't specify who 'me' is, or how to contact 'me'. You might want to specify.
zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
08 Jan 17 UTC
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Donations update are in. After talking with some more people and seeing how donations are coming in, I've decided to adjust the donation levels a bit. I am moving silver down to $25, gold at $50, platinum at $100, and adamantium at $500. If you donate more during this drive, I will update your donation level accordingly. These new icons do not exist yet, but once they do, I will give them out accordingly. If there is a donation at $1,000 or more, I will create a new donation level for it.

As of today, we have a total of $1,540 (rounded to the nearest ten). The donators in no particular orders are:

Bronze: thatwasawkward, jamiet99uk, peregrine falcon, chumbles, thegatso, kokodarick, lamson

Silver: Hannibal76, eturnage, twinsnation

Gold: MKECharlie

Platinium: swordsman3003, Doug7878, Hellenic Riot

Adamantium: zultar, jmo1121109

Thank you to those who have donated so far! I am working on adding ways that people can donate.

Please guys, donate as you can. This is our big push to get more features for the site and improve many of the functionalities that we need and want.
Thanks everyone for donating as much as you have! I hope we can make it to our goal so we can get all hose new features we want.
Kremmen (1943 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
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I don't understand why a site which doesn't have unlimited amounts of resources would keep trying to re-invent the wheel for a non-specialised aspect of its site ... especially when that wheel is kinda square and lumpy and drags along the ground. It's an off-putting shambles that makes it impossible to know where anything is and where most major announcements are hidden away so that most users never see them.

Ideally, just drop in vBulletin for forums and put technical effort into the Diplomacy engine, such as keeping as many good formats available as possible, especially World Diplomacy IX.
jmo1121109 (2537 D Mod)
09 Jan 17 UTC
@Kremmen, what specifically is your concern?
Kremmen (1943 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
@jmo, what is unclear to you? After many years in IT, I conclude that it is very seldom worthwhile even for a full-time professional development team to engage in creating an in-house solution when an off-the-shelf package exists to do the job. It's best to put development resources into those areas for which standard packages don't exist.

But if some people really like this current forum system and it creates a heavy load, how about this: Just give us an option to get rid of it from the home page. Most people don't read the forums anyhow. If the computationally expensive forum display was only occurring for the minority who actually use it, the current system could probably be used indefinitely at no extra cost.
jmo1121109 (2537 D Mod)
09 Jan 17 UTC
@kremmen, why are you under the impression that what you've mentioned has been ruled out?
kestasjk (133 D Mod (P))
10 Jan 17 UTC
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Thanks all for the generous donations so far, and thanks to Zultar for leading it. We'll be sure to squeeze every cent out of every donation. Apologies if I haven't written anyone back personally to express thanks, I have to keep track of each paypal e-mail individually.

If you haven't written me yourself to ask to be given a donor flag I'll be doing that in bulk by matching up your donor e-mail against your account, which is much easier to do all at once after the drive is over, so thanks for being patient.

Cheers all,
Kestas
Jamiet99uk (80 D (B))
10 Jan 17 UTC
My gibbering gods, how excessively wealthy are swordsman3003, Doug7878, Hellenic Riot and jmo1121109 that they have over 100 Austrian dollars to splash on improvements to a Diplomacy website?

I mean, well done to you, and I'm sure the site will benefit from your contributions, but you guys must not be short of a few bob.

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JamesYanik (407 D)
Fri 10 Feb UTC
French - Italian alliance
How would this work? Usually there's a non-aggression pact, but if France were willing to sacrifice Marseilles in return for support in Tyrolia, is this a workable relationship? Stabs are VERY difficult as they cross the stalemate line, but has this been effectively done before?
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Hellenic Riot (2734 D Mod (G))
Thu 09 Feb UTC
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Updated Forum Rules
http://webdiplomacy.net/rules.php
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LeonWalras (670 D Mod)
Wed 08 Feb UTC
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A Conservative Answer to Climate Change
I don't imagine a revenue neutral carbon tax proposed by top republicans from the Reagan era will be at all controversial...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-conservative-answer-to-climate-change-1486512334
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