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brainbomb (295 D)
12 Jul 16 UTC
I'm in Hell for 2 days.
where should I eat?
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Bob the Lord (292 D)
13 Jul 16 UTC
Considering there was a post about Pokemon GO, ...
I'd like some advice about if it would be good to purchase a Russian Dragon's of Tarkir booster box for about $100 USD? Shipping prices don't matter, as my friend is in Russia at the moment (he is the one actually buying this, and is wondering if he should).
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brainbomb (295 D)
19 Jul 16 UTC
Best song of the Summer competition.
Post links to the best songs of the summer here.
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squaretriangle (100 D)
18 Jul 16 UTC
Statistics for ModernDiplomacyII
Is there any statistics about how common is the win by solos. Which nations has the most wins, and who the least wins. And statistics like that.
And also, in general, which variants would you say are the most played, and why?. Any thoughts?.
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kasimax (243 D)
15 Jul 16 UTC
military coup in turkey?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/
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Dolphins12 (30 DX)
14 Jul 16 UTC
quick game
come join speed round-3
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day9 (0 DX)
17 Jul 16 UTC
Live gunboat in 30 min
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=181152
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MajorMitchell (1605 D)
08 May 16 UTC
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2016 Australian Federal Election
Well Malcolm Turnbull is visiting the Governor General, so an election is imminent, and probably a "double dissolution" election with the full Senate being dissolved, not half as is usually the case
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Maniac (189 D(B))
11 Jul 16 UTC
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UK Politics
We have had an elected Head-of_State since forever, we've had a Prime Minister elected with something like 25% of electorate and now he is standing down to be replaced by new PM that no one elected. Home of democracy? I think not.
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day9 (0 DX)
17 Jul 16 UTC
Gunboat starting in 15 min
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=181131
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day9 (0 DX)
17 Jul 16 UTC
Live Gunboat in 30 min
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=181140
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Dansta2106 (100 D)
16 Jul 16 UTC
New game
Pls we need some more players for our game,name: Dansta's game
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Maniac (189 D(B))
11 Jun 16 UTC
UK EU referendum is getting close.
Do you favour Brexit or Remain?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
11 Jun 16 UTC
I have long since favoured a referendum as people should have their say. I started off as leaning remain, and now I'm firmly remain. I've been out campaigning and it looks like an overwhelming Brexit vote in my area.
TooCoolSunday (634 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Don't bet on it.
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
http://sports.ladbrokes.com/sports-central/uk-eu-referendum/

I like those odds. Remain will win, and in the end it will be by a comfortable margin.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
11 Jun 16 UTC
Neither.
I'm going Brit-Stick.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
11 Jun 16 UTC
@Maniac: I never quite asked I think: do you have something of a political career on the site or something? I wasn't under the impression that you're a full-time politician, but I'm thinking maybe a little..
steephie22 (182 D(S))
11 Jun 16 UTC
On the side*
Horrible.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
11 Jun 16 UTC
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@Octavious: I see the word 'sports' twice in that URL. You sure they're the experts?
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
@ steephie

They're the UK's biggest bookmakers. Their entire business depends on getting the odds right, and they are the best in the industry. They are motivated by their balance sheet, and not by who wins. They also have a far better track record than the polling companies.

They're as good as you'll get.
MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
11 Jun 16 UTC
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Yeah they also got those Leicester odds just right ;)
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
As foreigner living in the UK for a while now, here is my impressions:

Just as the government, most of the Media and surveys indicate that the remain will win. However, with a slight margin.

From my impressions, even in London, I cannot easily find many people who would vote remain. Especially when it comes to old people they are strictly in favour of leave. I cannot believe that I have even met some immigrants who wants the UK to leave as well. I rarely find those rare people who would prefer that the Britain would remain. Only on the internet forums, some of my other immigrant friends and the guy in the mirror. Everybody else feels like they want to vote remain.

This reminds me the elections of the first time AKP won in Turkey. (Yeah I am originally from Turkey). The surveys never indicate that AKP will receive a very high vote. But most people I met around were in favour of them. Whomever I ask in the town, whomever I overhear they talked about AKP. When the results were out people were shocked but i always felt that it was obvious.

I just hope this time I am wrong ._.

Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Everyone's personal experiences will be different. The vast majority of the people I know at work will vote Remain. My friends and family are around 70-30 in favour of Remain. My local pub is firmly in the Remain camp.

When it comes to the nation at large, I suspect something around 55-45, give or take a few percent.

Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
This is good to hear. Then I wonder how come as a foreigner I am surrounded by so many leave voters xD
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Clearly you've had quite an effect on them :p
peterlund (1310 D(G))
11 Jun 16 UTC
Segregation is very common in the UK both when it comes to living and where people work. And it's class structures are still strong.
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
oh do I know it now! Otherwise I would go to Nigel and Boris to get some extra monies as their leave campaign mascot "Bloody immigrant". :P
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
@Peterlund I personally think the EU vote is a new level of segregation that divided everyone in half once more by the patriotism and internationalism. It is not like the labour class, aristocrats, business owners or corporate workers are voting as a large group. I think they are all divided in half as well, more or less. There is no dominant view over any single group. This is why things are even more complicated, I think.
Maniac (189 D(B))
11 Jun 16 UTC
@Steephie - I'm not a full time politician, I just get engaged in local politics and that has led to helping out handing out leaflets. I'm also doing a one on one radio debate next week. Wish me luck.
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
I'd say it was more that we've never really had to form an opinion on it before, so very few groups have ever formed a consensus on the issue. Sure, there have always been die hard pro-Europeans and anti-Europeans, but frankly they were always few in number and a little bit odd.

The consensus British view on Europe has always been a collective feeling of irritation and an eagerness to blame it when things go wrong, without ever worrying about having to actually do something about it. Much like the weather.
TooCoolSunday (634 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
@Nebuchadnezzar Very few people who will be voting leave are against immigration and immigrants. Many of us have immigrant families and have at different times been immigrants. Immigration is a small part of the bigger picture. It is about control and democracy.
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
@TooCoolSunday I am well aware of that but I nonetheless want to indicate that even some of the immigrants who gained citizenship and wants to vote leave explain their vote to me solely on the immigration.

To be honest, I think it would be underestimating it seriously to say that immigration is just a side issue. From what I see, I think it is one of the main parts of the issue along with power and money taken from the UK and given to the EU
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Immigration is indeed an issue. How much Brexit would actually impact it is open to interpretation, though.
TooCoolSunday (634 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
I fully accept that Immigration is the big issue for tabloid readers. In the same way that a hatred of Nigel and Boris is the main argument for some remainers. The majority will be voting with biases not political conviction. But then that's democracy.
peterlund (1310 D(G))
11 Jun 16 UTC
If power is the issue, you should certainly stay. If you'd left your government would sign a trade treaty with the Union promising to slavely adopt all new legislation affecting the single market (like Norway, Iceland etc) already now is doing. Staying in, you would instead continue to be part of the decision process.
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Possibly. I've always been fond of the North Korean approach. Do what we say or we'll nuke France, sort of thing. By limiting the target to France we might even gain popularity.
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
On one side, I personally think that immigration should never be an issue in any modern country. It is a part of the human nature, just like marriage and having a family. People should freely travel and choose which countries they want to settle in freely.

On the other hand, I think Brexit would actually impact it unless a quota on the EU immigrants is included in the deal he got from the EU. (To be honest I couldnt examine the deal in detail but as far as I know there is no such thing).

Why? because if the EU citizens are treated as third country nationals today, subject to the injust scrutiny of the home office, then the home office can simply and easily refuse millions of people. That is what they have been doing to third country nationals since removing the appeal rights to visa decisions. The audi alterem principle does not work for immigrants at this stage and such human rights breaches, noting that they are new, has not been challenged in the courts. Though I heard that there are some law firms trying to form a large group of victims and start a case.

Just to be more specific about what they do to current third country citizens who wants to apply for residence permits, work permits and even for visitor visas:

They refuse you saying you did not present a key document. When they return your documents you find the key document included in your returned application. No right to appeal, you have just had a serious refusal stamp on your passport. This is just one example of many.

So if the UK leaves the EU, and puts back visa checks to the EU citizens, that means a lot of people will have a hard time going to the UK and no one will be able to work in the UK without a Tier 2 visa, that subjects the employers to heavy scrutiny of the Home office again. Because of the scrutiny and requirements of this general work visa, even right now there is only a limited number of companies that hold a Tier 2 sponsorship.

In this regard, I honestly think, unless they amend the visa system making it lenient, they can seriously cut down the number of immigrant workers.

Now is this a bad thing or good thing? I leave it to you, but it makes the UK one of the most isolationist countries in this regard.

Many British citizens do not know how the immigration law has been changed in the last 5 years. People think home office does not do anything but they actually took such harsh steps that is beyond the human rights of immigrants, removing the right to appeal being the biggest issue. These measures do not effect the EU immigrants, which is the largest numbers of immigrants naturally. If the EU immigrants become subject to the third country national regime then they can seriously cut the number of immigration down.

Though, Most Third country nationals are now well aware that the UK has even surpassed the USA and became one of the hardest countries to get a visa (in all aspects, for tourists visits or work...) Personally I find it strange that the UK is following the example of the DPRK when it comes to visas and immigration.

I just hope that the UK will turn to the mirror and see what it is about to become.
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Sorry for the ranting essay guys but i had to get it out of my chest. XD
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Dear Octavious,

This referendum is going to be close. If we want to secure a victory for jobs, growth and workers' rights by remaining in the EU, we need to speak to more voters. We need to let them know how many of their hard earned rights are protected by Europe.

With little time left before polling day, it's vital we do everything we possibly can to win in these final two weeks. The future of our country rests on it.

Iain

Iain McNicol
General Secretary, The Labour Party
Octavious (2732 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Dear Octavious,

Over the weekend more than 30,000 of you signed our petition demanding that the Leave campaign make clear which workers' rights they would scrap if we left the EU. We packed the petition into boxes and marched to their office.

But they still won't come clean —

Our membership of the European Union helps protect our rights to holiday pay, parental leave and equal pay. If the UK voted to Leave, we would face the unknown, and this Tory government would be free to launch an assault on any of these rights. So we need to do everything we can to Remain.

Thank you for your continued support of this campaign.

Angela Eagle
Shadow First Secretary of State
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
I still have the feeling that if conservatives remain in the power, leave the EU and revoke the Human Rights act; the next thing we get is the legislation of child labour, £200 minimum wage and no holiday rights. :P There is nothing that can stop them afterwards.

Though after that a communist revolution may erupt in the UK xD
TooCoolSunday (634 D)
11 Jun 16 UTC
Dear Straw man

No worker's rights will be impacted in a negative way by the UK leaving the EU.

I would be nice if the Tory government tried to though as it would enhance Labour's position.

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MajorMitchell (1605 D)
15 Jul 16 UTC
Horrible Orrin Hatch, pharmaceutical corporation puppet ?
What's motivating this Politician to attack Australia's pharmaceutical been fits scheme ?
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leon1122 (190 D)
15 Jul 16 UTC
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Ban all Trucks
Without trucks, the terrorist couldn't possibly have carried so many explosives. Trucks are weapons of mass destruction and must be banned. Goodness, at least do background checks on the truckers.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Jul 16 UTC
Open CD Positions
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Mr Gravy (100 D)
14 Jul 16 UTC
Meaning of "no in-game messaging"
First-time player question: if a game has a "no in-game messaging" setting, does that mean there's no communication between the players at all? Or is there just a specific kind of messaging the players should/should not use?

*Apologies if this is answered somewhere in the rules or another thread; couldn't find it specifically anywhere.
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brainbomb (295 D)
14 Jul 16 UTC
Lena Headey, Emilia Clarke, and Maisie Williams up for best supporting Actress
Basically the emmys are stupid. but at least game of thrones will win every award known to man. I dont really agree with Maisie being award worthy however.
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
14 Jul 16 UTC
New game
Anyone in for a new game?
36-48 hours, Anonymous, Full press, WTA (or whatever we call it now)
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IshmaelGuantanamoIV (100 D)
14 Jul 16 UTC
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Much Fun, So Diplomacy, Very Europe, WOW
Some new players, some old players, unranked.

Play now! gameID=181054
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
27 Jun 16 UTC
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MAFIA XXI - GAME THREAD
MAFIA XXI - PROHIBITION WARS
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PLEASE DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD UNTIL THE GAME STARTS
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weiseling (0 DX)
12 Jul 16 UTC
Buy fake and Real Passport ,Visa,Driving License,id cards [email protected]
Buy fake and Real Passport ,Visa,Driving License,id cards
[email protected]
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
23 May 16 UTC
The King is Dead! in Modern Europe!
Forgot about the old thread and it's been awhile anyway.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
20 Jun 16 UTC
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I need to buy a sword...
...to cut a croquembouche at my wedding.

Does anyone have any recommendations on types or places to buy?
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
09 Jul 16 UTC
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BBC news: Barack Obama still liked around the world
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36742266
And I agree fully. Best and smartest US president ever!
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CptMike (4384 D)
07 Jul 16 UTC
World Diplomacy IX - Stalemate
Hello. I was wondering if there is a stalemate around the America's at World Diplomacy IX ? With Greenland ? Or with the UK ? Thx
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
20 Jun 16 UTC
Report from a Donald Trump rally
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-trump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets/
And this clown/maniac/new Hitler will be the republican party nominee. Shame on you.
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JimTheGrey (968 D(S))
25 May 16 UTC
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WDC: One-Month Warning!
First stab at the 2016 World Diplomacy Championship in Chicago is one month from today. More info at http://windycityweasels.org/wdc2016
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
08 Jul 16 UTC
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Policeman in USA murders black man already lying on the ground
How disgusting can things be? I thought I had seen it all, but NO I had not ;(
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faded box (100 D)
09 Jul 16 UTC
Quick Question
I'm trying to figure out if I can move from east Caribbean sea to the island "DOM" dominican rep."Modern dipo 2". Is there like a hex map I can look at, that shows all moves
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