@ DeepComa: PPSC was taken away (on a "trial" basis) some weeks ago.

I declare the removal of PPSC to be a great success!

I think if PPSC is removed we should start our own site callled webdiplomacy2 and have it be exactly the same. literally a carbon copy; that simply has PPSC. we can advertise for webdip2 games on here and market ourselves as new player friendly. come on guys anyone else feeling the burning passion for PPSC? no? oh. well thats no surprise. SoS FTW!

I declare the removal of PPSC to be a mistake which has upset a minority who, nonetheless, deserve to be heard.

However, please, Jeff - I'm not asking to re-open the debate. I'm asking about the Mods' conclusions.

@ CommanderByron: Would you be willing to agree that "webDiplomacyRepublic" would be a good name for that site?

ppscDiplomacy.net

Why would you want PPSC? It's inferior in every sense.

Chaqa that debate has been had already. I'm not trying to re-open it. You can go and look at what I said in the previous threads.

Eh, I'd rather not. PPSC was always a blight on the website and the game.

Easiest way to get (+1)s is to bash PPSC, apparently.

#fuckPPSC (#fuckGhug also?)

No-one is in favour of the Ghug-Per-Supply-Centre variant.

@ Chaqa: The thread in which the abolition of PPSC was announced contains much debate. You can review it here: threadID=1325897

My case is presented from Page 6...

PPSC sucks just about as bad as Jamiet's gameplay.

My gameplay is very average. Like yours.

Jamie was honest and funny at the same time. +1

You forgot to say "handsome", ssorenn

No, I didn't

Lol.

Bumping for Mod/Admin/Dev response, please?

What kind of response are you looking for? Once January ends, we'll run the analysis we promised to do, have a look at the results, and figure out whether the trial was a success or not.

Please don't expect this on Feb 1st. We're a volunteer team, doing this in our spare time. It will probably be at least a week or two before everything is completed.

Well, pretty much that one ^

I think it was clear from the OP - I wanted to know when we'd hear the verdict. I wasn't demanding it on 1st Feb - I was asking what the timescale is.

Thanks.

No problem :)

Thanks ATC
That's how I understood the situation. The Mighty Mods & others will watch and review the changes to scoring systems . I'm playing games using SoS to get some experience with that system, so when the review is done and the PPSC conversations start again in earnest I'll be able to contribute.
Meanwhile I've joined in at V Dip, wow they have a lot of variants, and they have me a thousand points to start with...Yippee

Oops a typo thanks to correcting script s/w
Those nice chaps at V Diplomacy gave me a thousand points, a whole thousand points. I've noticed a few familiar player names over there.
And surprise, surprise, God plays there....does Mujus know this, I wonder..

You are highly mistaken.

They do not give you 1000

Rather, they show your Vdip Rating where the points used to be.

You still only get 100 . You can find how many points you have by going to your profile page.

Hmmm, I just checked, and now that I entered a game I have 100 , but I also have a thousand Vpoints, so that gives me one thousand and one hundred points, which can't be a bad thing....???
C'mon Valis, it almost felt as good as when I first got to play with a young ladies **** and her ******. Go rain on someone else's parade

Yeah Vdip points are an Elo rating system similar to GR. Valis is right, you still have webdip points, and can see them on your profile.

For clarity, this is the last version of the Vdip Rating page before it was wiped (why?!):

Rating scheme Oli:

- Each game is split in many 1on1 matches.
- The final points are the sum of all sub-matches.
- Each game will get an adjustment for the number of players (a 34-player game does not score 16 times more than a 2-player game).

How each sub-match scores:

The score is depended how the real result of the match compares to the expected outcome and how valid the real result is.

Expected result player1 (Re1) and player2:
- Re1 = 1 / ( 1 + ( 10^( (Rating2 - Rating1) / 400) ) )
- Re2 = 1 - Re1

Adjustments of the results for calculation:
- Set Resigned/CDed players SCs to 0, their rating to 0 too.

- WTA: Set the SC-count for all but the winner to "0".
- Draw: Adjust the SCs for calculations so that every drawer has the same SC-count.
- PPSC: Do not change anything with the data.

Calculation:
Rr1 = Pl1SCs/(Pl1SCs + Pl2SCs) (if both have 0 SCs set Rr1 = 0)
Rr2 = Pl2SCs/(Pl1SCs + Pl2SCs) (if both have 0 SCs set Rr2 = 0)

The score is based on the difference (D1) from both results:
D1 = Rr1 - Re1
D2 = Rr2 - Re2

Adjustments for each match (matchValue=mV):
- Value the importance of take-overs. (If a player bet only the half the whole match is worth only half.)
- Normalize the mV by the SC% difference of both players

Adjustments for the game (gameValue=gV):
- The game-value (gV) is set to: ((numberCountries -1 ) / numberCountries )^3 * (1 - (numberCountries / 100)
This gives small games a very low gV and the gV gets more, the more players are in the game.
- gV = 0 for Rinascimento games
- If the winner does not reached the supplyCenterTarget because of custom game-options adjust the importance of the game too

K-Factor (K) to get some real point-changes from the 0.xx results is set to 30.

Final calculation for each match:
scoreMatchPlayer1 = K * gV * mV * D1
scoreMatchPlayer2 = K * gV * mV * D2

Final calculation for each game:
ScorePlayer1 = sum ( score for each matches)

Crikey, you chaps are nearly as bad as the fire breathing MemSahib, Her Indoors... I tried to share my joyous news with her....V Diplomacy has PPSC, ATC and Goldfinger are members, God is there, and he's an Almighty Mod, and they gave me lots and lots of points....All she did was give me one of her disparaging sniffs and said I was meant to be pruning the roses today and NOT playing silly games. If I didn't care so much about the lawnmower getting damaged I'd prune those ******** rose bushes to the ground with the damn thing.