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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Nov 15 UTC
Political Poll
The question: Is Ben Carson stupid?

If yes, please answer "yes."
If no, please answer "no."
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LittleItaly (355 D)
01 Nov 15 UTC
Ancient Med: Very Slow Game Cycle (10 Days): 200 pts
Just looking for a relaxed game in SOW style. Missed my chance this season, but I still want to learn the game.
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Vikesrussel (839 D)
24 Nov 15 UTC
Admin Question
Hi.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169413&msgCountryID=2
2 got banned that's great, Can we do something about Italy as well? Who not been at the game for 10 days (almost).
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
22 Nov 15 UTC
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'War' in Syria?
"The point, of course, is that the West had grown so used to attacking Arab lands - France had become so inured to sending its soldiers and air crews to Africa and the Middle East to shoot and bomb those whom it regarded as its enemies - that only when Muslims began attacking Western capital cities did we suddenly announce that we were "at war"."
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
18 Nov 15 UTC
Any interest in top 50 GR game? Classic full press WTA.
I'd like to set up a highly ranked GR game. If you're interested, please post below (also if you're not top 50 but top 100 or top 150 ;P or ...)

1. MrcsAurelius
2.
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stlwolffman (114 D)
23 Nov 15 UTC
general question
is there a way to set your preferences on which country you get in a new game
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pangloss (363 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
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Did Soldiers Really Die for my Freedom?
Last week was Remembrance Day, and aside from the self-righteous pomp and circumstance that usually accompanies the event, I was also subjected to hearing about why I should care about the "sacrifice" of others. Apparently soldiers died for my freedom.
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sangil (983 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
please cancel game 163772
Please either cancel the game "Official Europe Game IV" (id=163772) or at least eject me from it.
It has been paused since July and annoyingly keeps appearing in my dashboard without any way I can leave, hide or remove it.
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stefanodangello (308 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Interest in a good (WTA, FP) modern game?
Seeing people are again interested in organizing good games here(!!!), anyone interested in playing modern? Bets and phase length to be debated and decided.
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
Rich people worrying about the cost of things most people could never afford
Please offer constructive advice to Adam and Megan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/12000288/We-earn-190k-a-year.-Do-we-need-to-sell-our-flat-to-afford-private-school-fees.html
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brainbomb (295 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Ben Carson compares Syrian Refugees to rabid dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X-yH3U-Avc
Women and children fleeing chemical weapons attacks are now rabid dogs apparently lol.
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pasquaaa (591 D)
22 Nov 15 UTC
Cheating - Russia and Italy were allied before the game even started - this is unfair
Git Gassed is the game they were allied in

Look at the global chat logs they admitted it
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Hamilton Brian (760 D(B))
19 Nov 15 UTC
Any interest in a Mid-Level GR (500-800) Game? Semi-Anon, WTA, FP
Taking the lead from the 50 GR thread, I wanted to set up a game or two for players that I could fit with. Say a 25 D bet, WTA, 24 hour phases?

1. Hamilton Brian (612GR, 100%RR)
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
07 Nov 15 UTC
Gaming laptops
Some help please! In my search for good gaming laptops around the €1000 mark, I am now looking at these 2:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/msi-gp60-2qf-1094nl-gaming-laptop/9200000048904923/#product_specifications
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-aspire-nitro-vn7-572g-511v-gaming-laptop/9200000048907779/#product_specifications
Which is best? Are they both not good? What's wrong with them? Thanks!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Nov 15 UTC
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Discrimination Against White People
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/17/white-americans-long-for-the-1950s-when-they-werent-such-victims-of-reverse-discrimination/

We used to have it so easy. Now we still have it easy, but so do some others, though it's still not as easy for them as it is for us. I don't like it. Let's go back.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
20 Nov 15 UTC
It wasn't more homogenous, it was more segregated.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
20 Nov 15 UTC
Integration brings out the bigoted thoughts of racists and the passion for activism among the victims of racism. No one blinded by "separate but equal".
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
By homogenous I mean that the percentage of Americans who were of European ancestry (the dominant culture) was much greater in the 50s than now. Since then, many immigrants have come here from Asia and Central and South America. Loving vs Virginia struck down miscegenation laws. The demographic trend lines are there. Our complexion as a nation has changed dramatically in the past 50-60 years, and it appears to be accelerating.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
21 Nov 15 UTC
*says something horrible*

"Oh no I was just playing devil's advocate"
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
21 Nov 15 UTC
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I interviewed a couple in East Berlin a few years back that lived under Soviet rule, and they said they missed Soviet rule and wished that they could go back because they had access to a corrupt part of the Soviet government. They got vacations outside of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact (including West Berlin), employment benefits from the government, and lived in the apartments on Karl Marx Allee.

Nowadays, they are fairly regular - both employed (though nearing retirement I imagine), making more than enough to live comfortably, and they are in a quieter area a shortish walk from Potsdamer Platz. They miss the USSR, though. Of course, the obvious point of this is that they lived in the same version of the USSR that powerful white Christian males did in the US in the 50s and 60s (and 80s). That is to say that it's not the same one that everyone else had to live under.

I also interviewed a man who was incarcerated in a Stasi prison just outside of Berlin. He was arrested and tortured for printing a flier against the USSR occupation and handing it out on the street. He showed us his room in the prison. His bed was a wooden block. He had no mattress. There were no windows other than the one that could be opened and shut only from the outside of the steel door. There were no lights. There was a room with a waterboard and another with some other water device that I don't know. There were ridiculously bright rooms and rooms with massive industrial heaters. The heat probably could have been sustained at well over 100 degrees. It was definitely torture.

You can call the analogy I'm building on extreme if you want, but the same principle applies - the people who miss the time when such things were happening are the people who never experienced them.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
21 Nov 15 UTC
Jeff, are you saying that's a bad thing? This country is built on immigration.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
I consider our demographic changes to be good for the United States. However, there are many people who are not able to adapt as quickly as things are moving.
TrPrado (461 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
Never mind, this thread is becoming its own satire.
Randomizer (722 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
"This country is built on immigration."

The first thing that the immigrants want to do is keep out the next group of immigrants that aren't like them. The Native American Indians that came from Asia had to deal with the White European immigrants. The English, Dutch, French, and Spanish immigrants fought each other. Then they agreed that they like each other more than the next wave of Jews, Irish, Germans, Poles, and other European groups. The only reason we got the African Blacks was they were imported as slaves. Then you add in the Hispanics and Asians to the mix after the Civil War ….

Then you get to the quota system before WW II to regulate what the US was willing to take. This country has always been against immigration.
KingCyrus (511 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
Holy crap people. Can we please look at my original statement? Someone can think that it was a better time for, I don't know, religious reasons (no abortion), economic, family stability, public morality, etc.

Obviously, these do not in any way equate to the racism and sexism of the 50's to you, but perhaps they do to others. You malign anyone who has the audacity to say the world was better before abortion was legal, or when 50% of marriages didn't end in divorce for placing different priorities. I'm sorry not everyone shares your view of reality, or your particular favorite variety of morality.

I am not validating racism or racists. I am not validating sexism or sexists. All that I am saying is that some people, who still view racism and sexism as wrong, may believe we have lost more in our culture than we have gained. This in no way means that they want to go back to the racism, sexism, lower quality of healthcare, higher infant mortality rates, etc. All it means is they DO want a return to less broken families, less sexual promiscuity, more people believing in God, etc.

The moral superiority of this thread is shocking.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
@KingCyrus

I don't think you understand. You (arguably) gain all of those things, but at what cost? That's what makes them selfish.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
I think one could easily make the case that the 50s was "better" than it is now for WASPy suburban America. Who wouldn't want to raise their kids in pleasant neighborhoods with good schools and community spirit after being victorious in the the most destructive conflict the world had ever seen?

If you were a middle-class, white family in the 50s, there was a pretty good chance you got the live the American Dream to its fullest. That doesn't mean you personally were racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic. It might have just meant you lived in a bubble world of people just like you and carried on just fine thankyouverymuch.

Is that selfish? Do you think anyone ever said, "Check your privilege" back then? No, those concepts were alien to most people. Ignorance can be blissful, but that doesn't mean the ignorant are willfully antagonistic either.

The problem comes from people being overly nostalgic for an era whose time is long gone by. We cannot return to the 50s by waving a wand, or even by enacting reactionary policies to try and get us there. Our society is very different, and we must keep rolling along.

'Nothing endures by change.' -Heraclitus
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
*but
orathaic (1009 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
"White discrimination existed back then, but it was white ethnic/religious group versus white ethnic/religious group. After all Kennedy almost didn't get elected president in 1960 because he was a white Irish Catholic."

No, the ever living fuck no.

Being Irish (and thus Catholic) meant being poor, from the 1840s (the great famine) up until the 1960s the majority if Irish people in America were poor. Discriminating against the poor is an example if classism. And continues in policies like fines for parking violations which, if you can't afford to pay, are followed up by heavier fines.

Eventually jail sentences for non-payment; essentially meaning, it is illegal to be poor.
Similar city ordinances have banned begging, or previously included work houses (essentially forced labour) for people who couldn't pay their debts.

This does not demonstrate that rascism against white people was a problem. It demonstrate that Marx was right. Now the intersection with women's rights or black rights, is simple. People who were previously slaves started out poor. Women who weren't allowed work, or worked unpaid in the home, were typically poor.

Thus women and people of colour, and particularily women of colour, were (and are) greatly affected by discrimination against the poor. (Which also hurt white male Irish, or any white male who happened to be poor) so in reality, the existance of classism reinforces and enhances discrimination against women and people of colour.

Yet some people on the right want to use it to 'prove' that white people had it equally bad.

I call bullshit!
orathaic (1009 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
*apologies for typos, 'of' not 'if' in many places.
KingCyrus (511 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
JK, that is all I am trying to say.

And Yoyo, I never said they weren't being selfish, I said they weren't necessarily racist or sexist.
diplomat61 (223 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
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I am uncomfortable with the idea that discrimination should be countered by more discrimination.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
Payback's a bitch.
Randomizer (722 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
@orathaic - If you think the Kennedy clan and other Boston Irish Catholics were poor then you completely missed the point. The group might have started out as poor in the 1800s, but before WW II, enough of them had reached what would be now considered 1% level.

The point was Kennedy was the first Catholic (non Protestant) president elected where a campaign issue was about his religion and whether he was going to represent the Pope and Catholics over his own country's views. It was a white versus white religion issue similar to Obama as a white versus black.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
"The group might have started out as poor in the 1800s" - yes, and built a stereotype or poor Irish being discriminated against.

Stereotyping and discrimination are perfectly happy to generalise. My point about the reason* for Irish being doesn't stop being true because Kennedy had money.

Infact, the reason he got elected president is probably a direct result of his family connections and money - despite the stereotypical - not somethign which disproves the stereotype and discrimination existed.

*or one of the reasons.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
And yes, the religion thing is about power not poverty.

Power and status. But you can be black AND catholic, discriminating against catholics has nothing whatsoever to do with colour.


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trip (696 D(B))
21 Nov 15 UTC
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Greedy Oceans Discriminate Against Deserts!
They won't share any of their water even though they're already teeming with life.

I DEMAND JUSTICE!!! #fuckoceans #DLM
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BlackJackP74 (263 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
New World Game....Join Now!
Hello, everyone! I'd like to inform everyone of a World Diplomacy game. As of this moment, it requires 6 more people to make a full game. I'd appreciate it if we could mae a full one...as World games are always fun and chaotic at the same time. Thanks, and have a great day!
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
21 Nov 15 UTC
NHL All-Star Game
So the NHL has announced a 3-on-3 format for the All-Star Game this season. I believe this format devalues defensemen in that, in a 3-on-3 match, both sides will field a center and 2 wingers to increase scoring chances at the cost of solid defensive play. The NHL has a long history of great defensemen, so I don't believe it is fair to devalue them by devaluing their usefulness in the All-Sta Game (ergo, less All-Star appearances for defensemen versus scorers).
Thoughts?
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Hipe99 (100 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
New Player Game
Hi, I'm doing a game for new players, anyone want to join?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=170048
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brainbomb (295 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
Modern Diplomacy favors Turkey

I've looked at most of the active games, including a few i'm in. I noticed that in almost every single one of them on Modern Dip II, Turkey is always winning at the end of the game. Has anyone ever seen Turkey get wiped out?
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brainbomb (295 D)
20 Nov 15 UTC
Who is the sorest loser?
An Italy that doesnt get is way
Or a Russia that gets triple ganged
Share your experiences here
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Crazy Anglican (1100 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
Droids rights
With the upcoming release of Star Wars 7, a question occurs to me. Are droids in facts slaves and if so is this okay?
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Ogion (3817 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
turkey needed for gunboat
Well apparently some players in a game entitled to encourage a lack of CDs want to play on with a banned player, so we need a replacement turkey. The position is more decent if you consider the necessary allegiances in place given the position. It'd be a fun challenge to make something of this and far from impossible.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169256#gamePanel
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brainbomb (295 D)
19 Nov 15 UTC
Anyone interested in taking over a Fantasy Football team?
im LM for a 14 team league on ESPN and the Standings are crazy. We had 2 people both completely fail at managing teams the problem is theyre both playoff contenders as 8 teams advance. Heres the standings.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
03 Nov 15 UTC
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Mafia XIV Game Thread
See inside
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KingCyrus (511 D)
18 Nov 15 UTC
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New Forum Etiquette Rules
From now on, all members of the forum shall be placed under scrutiny while debating. We shall rely on citizens of the forum making sound judgment calls. The necessary tools to perform these duties are here:

http://tinyurl.com/ou4p4t5
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wjessop (100 DX)
18 Nov 15 UTC
ADVERTISE YOUR BUSINESS IDEAS AND POTENTIAL INVENTIONS HERE
This is the thread for all business ideas and potential inventions, or concepts and proposals of such.

All ideas welcome.
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wjessop (100 DX)
13 Nov 15 UTC
Paris Terrorist Attack, November 2015
Paris shootings: Casualties in city centre and explosion at Stade de France

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
17 Nov 15 UTC
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Tory campaign of terror is killing vulnerable and disabled people
http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2015/10/26/jech-2015-206209.full

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Yoyoyozo (95 D)
17 Nov 15 UTC
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Lusthog?
What is it, and is it legal in the U.S?
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