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Devonian (870 D)
20 Aug 15 UTC
There are openings in the vdip 1v1 ladder tournament
See rules and signup instructions here:

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=60990&page-thread=1#threadPager
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
23 Aug 15 UTC
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webDip F2F Tournament LIVE BLOG
I'm not in a game so FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
gameID=166469
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A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
Site updates and thanks
See inside!
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ghug (5068 D (B))
03 Aug 15 UTC
August Ghostratings
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist

Enjoy!
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Severe Cigar Deficiency~ Cuba Needed
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
28 Jul 15 UTC
I'm designing a board game and wondering about the production side..
I can't produce everything myself of course, but I do want to have as much control as possible and make it 'my' enterprise rather than giving the design to someone who takes care of everything while I'm getting a part of the profit.
I do need some professional stuff to really get it off the ground, though. No clue how to go about this. Approach the nearest board game store and get information there?
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Atheos (0 D X)
24 Aug 15 UTC
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A game: WHO DO WE BLAME FOR THE SERVER CRASH?
Naturally, I blame the Chinese.
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goldfinger0303 (3145 D Mod)
16 Aug 15 UTC
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The Masters 2015
See inside.
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jmspool (100 D)
24 Aug 15 UTC
"...more than..." not "...over..."
"The last process time was over 12 minutes ago (at 01:59 PM); the server is not processing games until the cause is found and games are given extra time."
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pjmansfield99 (127 D)
24 Aug 15 UTC
PJ Mini Gunboat Tourney
As above below.
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Hannibal76 (246 D (B))
24 Aug 15 UTC
I wanna change my name
Title says it all. It's not possible though, is it?
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Taft (100 D)
24 Aug 15 UTC
Looking for Players for an Anonymous Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=166500

Jump in, the water's fine!
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YanksFan47 (185 D)
16 Aug 15 UTC
Philosophical Books
I am getting more and more interested into philosophy and things of that nature. Does anybody have any good recommendations for a good read about philosophy or anything related to it?
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California needed
Long hair and surfing skills not required-

gameID=166336
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Valis2501 (3247 D (G))
22 Aug 15 UTC
2nd Official webDip F2F Tournament hosted by the Boroughs - Live Blog
As above, below

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Randomizer (104 D)
19 Aug 15 UTC
US Spy Agencies Fall Behind Israeli Animal Spies
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/19/fact-checking-hamass-claim-that-it-captured-an-israeli-spy-dolphin/?utm_content=buffercadd0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Israel used drones more effectively than the US for years so why not an animal spy gap.
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wpfieps (442 D)
22 Aug 15 UTC
Why do people draw so early?
I'm curious to learn y'all's opinion about putting up a draw vote very early on in a game. I especially see this in WTA gunboats, but I've also seen it elsewhere a lot too, where 1902/1903 - 5 or 6 of the players are already voting draw, before the game has even had a chance to develop. (okay admittedly I did the same thing in the last gunboat I played, but that's just 'cuz I drew Italy and I hate Italy).
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A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
21 Aug 15 UTC
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Do YOU want to help develop webdip?
See inside!
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 Aug 15 UTC
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America and Americans are often criticized on this Forum
Time for a small celebration, two American heroes saved a lot of people, among whom many of my compatriots, today:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34023361
God bless America!
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Atheos (0 D X)
21 Aug 15 UTC
I AM MOVING TO GODDAM FLORIDA!!!
WOO HOO!!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2632390400001/4436753880001/
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
27 Jun 15 UTC
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The 2nd Official webDip F2F Tournament hosted by the Boroughs in Marlborough, MA!
August 22-23 with a special webDip gathering Aug 21!
Tournament Info: https://sites.google.com/site/boroughsdiplomacy/home
Original webDip F2F: http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/boston-face-to-face
To register you MUST email TheBoroughsDiplomacy@gmail.com
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
21 Aug 15 UTC
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@webDiplomacy
The webDip F2F is only one day away! If you don't already, be sure to follow @webDiplomacy to follow along live with the games!
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DeathLlama8 (524 D)
21 Aug 15 UTC
One More Spot in a Game!
FP NonAnon 48H 5 D! PM for password!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=166085
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backscratcher (459 D)
21 Aug 15 UTC
Seattle Face to Face?
Are there enough players in and around Seattle to get together for a good face to face session?
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Kallen (1169 D)
21 Aug 15 UTC
If you would like to see Jon Stewart host a presidential debate in 2016,
here u go

http://time.com/4005480/jon-stewart-presidential-debate-petition/
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bo_sox48 (4926 D Mod (G))
21 Aug 15 UTC
Bed Mandate
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-09-24/congress-fuels-private-jails-detaining-34-000-immigrants

This rule is a perfect representation of the kind of xenophobia that plagues many communities in this country and a our insistence that simply putting someone behind bars is a solution to our problems.
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Zach0805 (100 D)
20 Aug 15 UTC
Dickhead
The most dickhead thing you've seen someone do
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CD Take-over
When you take over a country in civil disorder, can you put in orders for the current phase? Or do you have to wait for the current phase to end before actually taking over?

i.e. country CDs right away, I take it over in Spring 1902. Can I enter orders for the spring?
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TerraCottaGamer (100 D)
20 Aug 15 UTC
Help the noob
I am in my first game and need a clarification. The setting was for 1 day/phase. The first phase is coming to a close. Is that just the diplomacy phase and then I will have another day to get my orders in - or - do orders have to be in at the end of the first phase.

Sorry for the noob question but I have searched the site and could not find the answer.
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kahudd2000 (157 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
Daoism and the Gita -- in the weeds
Starting this thread as to not hijack (any further) the philosophy book thread.
kahudd2000 (157 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
My conversation with Thucydides got turned around somehow. On sleeping on it, I think the disagreement isn't about what Daoism tells you to do, it's about what the Gita says.

My entry-point is that they have a different emphasis, though they are certainly coming at it in a different direction than most of contemporary Western thinking.
kahudd2000 (157 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
I eventually want to use a different example than teaching, but I have two parts of the TTC I want to point to:

From Section 2

. . . the Sage is devoted to non-action. Moves without teaching, creates 10,000 things without instruction.

From Section 23
Spare words: nature's way.

Violent winds do not blow all morning. Sudden rains cannot pour all day. . .

If Heaven and Earth do not blow and pour for long, how much less should human?

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At least when I read these passages I was struck with the futility of repeating something over and over and over again.
principians (881 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
My limited experience with taism comes from the nonreligious practice of taoist martial arts: tai chi, chi kung and kung-fu-nei-chia (the "wudang" wushu, different from the "shaolin" wushu, which is budhist). Take my words as one of a nonscholar and far from expertise, but I'd say ch. 2 has more to do with "learn by experience rather than from words" (which in practice does not mean that the teacher won't try to explain things with words, but just that the emphasis is "don't take my words too seriously, but take the practice as seriously as you can"). Ch. 23 has more to do with rage.

Yes, there's a certain minimalism in taoism, but I'd say it has not more to do with "whether" you act than with "how" do you act.

They've repeated us frequently this: "The perect form is the pure content" which means you don't make any needless movemente, and you don't stop making any necessary movement.
principians (881 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
"The perect form is the pure content" is clearly not very "perfect" lol
kahudd2000 (157 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
I think we are agreeing more than we are not.

I don't think the TTC is forbidding you from using words. It is describing how they often don't work, and that doubling down on words gets less and less useful. The emphasis in Daoism is you are wasting your breath. You get to do that, fine.

I am just saying that the Gita's emphasis is different. It's emphasis is on action, how action is inevitable, how it can something to be absorbed in, but something you should not be attached to.

Daoism: You can accomplish much by being centered. Your actions can be so subtle as to not be noticed. These are often the most effective actions, even though they go unnoticed.

Gita: Do not operate in bad faith. Do not become attached to stillness. Do not become attached to the reward of the action, but the action itself.
principians (881 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
Well yes, when I say teacher reminds us of things over and over and over again, I didn't mean he'll necessarily do it using words, but it's still true we often have to repeat movements over and over and over and over .... again.

Maybe the point is that the concept of teaching taoist martial arts is not the same as the concept of teaching something a child (it probably should be, and maybe we'd have better education)
kahudd2000 (157 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
That makes sense. The arts (including the martial arts) --as well as coaching -- are some of the best models (and examples) of teaching I can think of.
Thucydides (864 D (B))
18 Aug 15 UTC
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Daoism: You can accomplish much by being centered. Your actions can be so subtle as to not be noticed. These are often the most effective actions, even though they go unnoticed.

Gita: Do not operate in bad faith. Do not become attached to stillness. Do not become attached to the reward of the action, but the action itself."

I still just don't see the conflict in this? They are talking about different things.

And sure we repeat movements over and over and over again - that's what living things do. I don't think your quoted passage means "do different things all the time" so much as "don't assume that what you are doing will go on forever."
kahudd2000 (157 D)
18 Aug 15 UTC
I don't see a conflict in this either. I am saying they have a different emphasis.

On the other thread, I merely stated the Gita is a good counter-point to the Daoist texts. I did not mean a repudiation.

I'll just speak for myself here. The Gita helped open my eyes to the problem with an attachment to stillness.

I love the language of the 3-fold division of purity, passion, and darkness. Darkness here doesn't mean evil, per se, but neglect. Passion means the kind roller-coaster that most people run on as the default. And purity is to be encouraged. It is to act and not be concerned with the fruit of the action. The Gita reminds me to live in this moment, one that often has actions.
Thucydides (864 D (B))
19 Aug 15 UTC
I agree they have different emphases. I would say the Hindu texts emphasize the inner life of the soul, whereas the Taoist texts emphasize the connection on the person to all the events of Nature. Both agree with each other, but are mostly using two different ways of illustrating their point. Together they are a powerful worldview.
fiedler (1293 D)
19 Aug 15 UTC
I like Chinese
principians (881 D)
19 Aug 15 UTC
Kahudd, which would you say there's in the Bhagavad Gita? a kind of teism, deism, panteism panenteism or somethingelsism?
dirge (768 D (B))
19 Aug 15 UTC
I'd go to the Indian buffet over a gelatinous Chinese buffet any day.
kahudd2000 (157 D)
19 Aug 15 UTC
I think it more pantheistic than anything else.

Now granted there is an Avatar of the god Vishnu talking, but he in turn is an Avatar of the one supreme, which all is a part of.
fiedler (1293 D)
20 Aug 15 UTC
The world today seems absolutely crackers
With nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high
There's fools and idiots sittin' on the trigger
It's depressing and it's senseless, and that's why


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