I am in favor, should make for a more interesting game. Too many draws already, after all.

Ck, please put me back on wait list

@ckr maybe it's best you explicitly lay out what the full current rules are.

OK, good thinking, Valis.

The unchanged part: This is a 7 player, one game, never-ending series, 7 players in an anonymous, full press, 25 hour, low bet game. The winner or in the event of a draw [unknown] number of players will continue on to the next mountain game.

The changing part: How many people, in the event of a draw, continue on to the next game. It was originally three, under Lusthog rules; now I think we're down to two without Lusthog requirements.

I'll join the waitlist.

Please bump me back to the wait list for this game. Don't have time for a FP right now. Hopefully I can catch Game 5

Same for me, sorry.

Sounds like I might be able to catch game 4!

Sorry for the delay, but here I go adding names.


1. basvanopheusden
2. Jamiet99uk
3. krellin
4. trip
5. aborinius
6. Jeff Kuta
7. phil_a_s

The waitlist is:
abgemacht
Steingrim
steephie22
ssorenn*
ckroberts*

(* participated in previous Mountain game and thus cannot join next game)


If anyone on the current list can't make it, steephie, you're next! Anyone else who wants on the wait list for game 5, just add yourself.

I like the part where only two players advance. I've never played Lusthog, but I don't think we need it. The last game was aggressive enough, I'd say. It did end in a draw, but that's because you, Stack and jamiet defended well, not because I didn't try :)

The part that I didn't like too much, is to do tie-breakers based on RR and GR. Instead, I would propose to break ties based on the country that's playing. Something like Italy>Turkey>England>Austria>Germany>France>Russia. We can ask ATC, goldfinger or Tru Ninja or whoever has done the most recent statistical analysis which countries have the best chance to get to solo or top two in a draw in all classic full press WTA games on the site, and base the order on that. The advantage is that, before the countries are drawn, every player has the exact same chances.

Ooh, that's a fancy idea, although I worry about lategame incentives.

the RR or GR are not fair to decide outcome---SC count...make them fight it out if the second place, if the position is a stalemate and two are tied for second, only one moves on(the leader)----its should be harder not easier to stay on mountain

@ckroberts: everyone will know the country order, so everyone's incentive is clear. For example, when the game is heading towards a draw like Russia (16) - England (9) - France (8) -Italy (1), France knows taking Italy's center won't give him a spot on the mountain, but grabbing one off England will. But Italy, England and Turkey all know that too.

@ssorenn: I like that suggestion too. As long as we have a system where everyone has the same chances (before countries are drawn) and the order is clear for all players.

Jeff and trip cannot play, and arborinius has not visited the site in a while. That means we've got open spots! I'm looking for two more players. ssorenn and I cannot play because we just lost the last Mountain.

1. basvanopheusden
2. Jamiet99uk
3. krellin
4. steephie22
5. phil_a_s
6.
7.

The waitlist is:
trip
abgemacht
Steingrim
Jeff Kuta
aborinius (?)
ssorenn*
ckroberts*

seems like an interesting concept. I'll take a go.

I like the line-up so far.

I mean, perhaps it would look better without me on it, but hey.

This sounds like a fun twist! Would it be possible for me to join?

Yes, and I think we have 7!

1. basvanopheusden
2. Jamiet99uk
3. krellin
4. steephie22
5. phil_a_s
6. apathetec
7. Glen_Alexander

The information is on the way.

Could one of the participants please post the link to this thread in the global discussion?

(once it starts)

And perhaps a summary of the rules because it got a bit confusing.

Yes, let's avoid the confusion last time and post the rules here and make sure everyone agrees.

By the way, do people mind if steephie and I conduct our diplomacy in Dutch? I've,never played with a fellow Dutchman on the site.

I can't imagine they mind, in private conversations. I might accidentally speak English with you, though :-)
It can be a bit unusual to talk about bouncing, juggernauts, western triples and so on in Dutch..

Wait a minute, there's an issue:
It's anonymous.

I guess we could just try talking to people in Dutch.. :-)

It's probably obvious from time zones and when you're online.

(Imagines Steephiesending press at 4am everyday just to mess with me :p )

Is everyone else American though?