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Valis2501 (2914 D (G))
01 Mar 15 UTC
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The School of War - Study Group of Winter 2015
This thread is for the Winter 2015 Study Group of the School of War. Please be courteous to those running the game and respect any reasonable requests they may make. This semester the Study Group will be overseen by A_Tin_Can and goldfinger0303. gameID=155736
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
07 Aug 15 UTC
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No Quarters Gunboat
104 D WTA Gunboat 25 Hour Phases Hidden Draw
No Quarters: No Cancel/No Pause for any reason. We play this one through!
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
06 Aug 15 UTC
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You Just Stabbed A Guy...
Who should be the first to initiate communication, you or your ex-ally? Why?
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The Czech (42212 D (S))
07 Aug 15 UTC
Yo mama gunboat
Who was who before it canceled?
I was England
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yaks (218 D)
06 Aug 15 UTC
Live Austria Available
gameID=165677
For those who are in the mood for a challenge
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
Coding Boot Camps
I listened to an interesting episode of On Point (probably the best radio show there is, btw) a few days ago about Coding Boot Camps. Here's a link to the episode and an older article if you don't have time to listen.
http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/07/30/coding-boot-camp-career-change-tech-boom
http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2014/12/20/370954988/twelve-weeks-to-a-six-figure-job
Thoughts?
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
I'm a firm believer that not everyone needs to go to a 4-year college to contribute to society. I also think, more than ever, computers allow people to rise above and better themselves, either through access to education, or through better jobs in the high-tech sector.

There are, of course, many computer jobs that require real engineering degrees. There are many, though, that do not. So, why should these jobs be denied to people because they don't have jobs they don't really need? In principle, these boot camps seem like they have a lot of potential, but there is always the risk of for-profit educators being more snake-oil salesman than teachers.

As is mentioned, if you don't have an aptitude of coding, these are unlikely to help you, so you should save your time and money. If you have the skills though, and just need some training, they seem to have a lot of potential.

I know we have a lot of educators and Computer/IT people here, so I'm interested in your thoughts.
ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Aug 15 UTC
How old do you need to be to take part in these camps?
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
These ones are aimed at adults.
ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Thx. My kid wants to get involved in learning coding
JamesYanik (548 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Send him to military school ssorenn
☺ (1304 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
I am very seriously considering this, but haven't pulled the trigger.
ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Aug 15 UTC
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@jy. My boy is awesome and at 11 he has interest. I want to help in anyway I can
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
ss

There are many awesome ways for kids to get into programming, but these aren't really aimed at that.
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
Personally, I'd recommend getting a LEGO Mindstorm set.
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
: )

What are your thoughts, if you don't mind sharing?
ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Aug 15 UTC
There are coding camps run out of Northwestern U and University of Chicago run by ID tech. He took one at 10 and loved it. They used the mine craft platform. I'm trying to be a little proactive and learn from people who know , on how to direct him going forward
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
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@ss: Find something he wants to build (anything, it doesn't matter), and then work out what tools he need to be able to build it.

Most programmers will recommend you their favourite tools (and I'm having to actively try not to do that here), but the truth is it doesn't matter what tools he uses - it matters that he's interested enough and motivated to build whatever he's working on.
ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Aug 15 UTC
I am so not the tool guy. We built a lot of K'nect X roller coasters. But busting out the tool belt is not my thing.
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
StarLogo is also worth checking out. A fun language/interface developed by MIT to teach children to coding and modeling. It has a lot of good tutorials so you don't really need to know anything before hand to do cool stuff.

http://education.mit.edu/portfolio_page/starlogo-tng/
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
I'm pretty sure ATC meant *programming tools*. As in, don't just decide to randomly learn Ruby. Pick a project that sounds fun and then find out the best language to complete that project.
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Sorry, I meant software tools. So your question becomes "my son wants to build an RTS game he can play with his friends - where should I tell him to start?" or "my son wants to build a minecraft addon" or, whatever.
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
Or just save yourself a bunch of time and pick up a Mindstorm kit and you both can have tons of fun : )
ssorenn (0 D X)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Lol. Oops. That's funny. I really appreciate it guys.
Balrog (219 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Following up on the article that abge shared.
IMO there are some great boot camps out there, where in you can get training for a specific niche of Computer Science and transition in that job sector.
One good example is Insight Data Science/Engineering program :
http://insightdatascience.com/
http://insightdataengineering.com/

However, there are certain cons to this: Persons who have got training from such camps can not replace a full fledged computer scientist in specific positions like Software development. Because there is no way a person can be taught the essentials of Data structures, Algorithms, good/optimized coding practices, operating systems in a few weeks.
So, these camps should be limited to only things like web/app development which can be learned easily and in which the risk factor (if the system goes haywire) is minimal.
fiedler (1293 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
pfft Lego. One word for you: Arduino
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
Yeah, arduino is great but probably not the best choice for a ten year old and a father with limited (no?) Coding experience. If you bite off more than you can chew, you'll just get discouraged. Start with something easy and fun. It's pretty easy to move to arduino whenever you want
fiedler (1293 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Sounds like he needs to get a better father. One with some coding chops and much better at diplomacy too.

Any replacement fathers out there?
Caballo Blanco (1005 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
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(-1) ^^^
steephie22 (182 D (S))
06 Aug 15 UTC
Maybe get him introduced to webdesign :-)

I would agree that he should learn through projects though. That's how I prefer to learn almost everything though.

Does he want a website? Computer game? Figure out his own secret encryption methods? I guess you don't want him to learn how to hack, but in theory you could let him hack his own stuff for instance, to deepen his understanding and so he sees what makes hacking harder, so he learns how the whole cat&mouse game between hackers and developers works..
Does he want to chat with his own program? Modify the games he plays?

If you're wealthy enough, does he want to program his own robot? I haven't done lots of research, but I think you can almost compare the price of robots to that of PCs, although I might be dead wrong there.

Lots of options. What does he like and how far do you want to take him?
Does failure stimulate or demotivate him? Because some things will require lots of trial and lots of error before he starts to grasp the basics and can start working on something while other things may bore him because there's nothing left to learn after a few weeks.

I also don't know how hard most of the things I mentioned are, FYI :-)
I don't know how to do most things, but then I never tried them and motivated 11-year-olds learn really fast.

See what's reasonable in terms of price and difficulty and let him know, then he knows daddy gave it thought and he will have various options already laid out for him.


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MichiganMan (5154 D)
06 Aug 15 UTC
Fatal Error During Game
I got a "fatal error" notice during game

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civwarbuff (305 D)
05 Aug 15 UTC
Looking for a Modern Diplomacy Analysis.
I have never played the variant before but I have been looking at some archived games of it on webdiplomacy recently. I was hoping that people would be willing to share any thoughts on it they have. I would love a country by country analysis.
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gwenifyre (100 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Tournaments Here
I just got back from GenCon ftf tournaments. Are there some here to get involved in? How should I do that?
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backscratcher (459 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
What is the hardest draw in Modern?
What is the hardest draw in Modern?
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jackal99 (100 D)
05 Aug 15 UTC
leave
how do you leave game once started cant use and dont want to ruin game
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Italy needed, 7 SCs
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goldfinger0303 (3155 D Mod)
05 Aug 15 UTC
The Leagues Results!
Hi all. So with half of the Leagues completed, I thought now was as good a time as ever to update everyone with the standings and some new rules that will be in place next season.
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Balrog (219 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
PennApps Fall 2015
http://2015f.pennapps.com/

I attended it last fall and also participated in the winter edition
Anyone attending it this fall?
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ND (879 D)
05 Aug 15 UTC
Webdip Sub needed
-See thread for details-

But basically sub wanted for world/classic game I am in while I am on my trip. Not sure if I post this elsewhere (existing thread) if so direct me to it.
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podium (498 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Fantasy Football
We've had two leagues from here last couple of years.Don't know who set them up.But it's that time of the year to start working on setting up draft day and time. If we want to test our football IQ's again.
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goldfinger0303 (3155 D Mod)
02 Aug 15 UTC
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New Tournament Rules
Mostly for the Masters, but some of these will also apply to other tournaments I run as well.
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
04 Aug 15 UTC
Iron Will and an amazing Masterplan: Fast Gunboat EoG
gameID=165566 - Autumn 1928. 5 hours and 20 minutes. But a win is a win!

Going to brag here, and post an EoG if anyone else wants to. Good show.
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basvanopheusden (2169 D)
29 Jul 15 UTC
The Mountain Game 3 EOGs
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JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Aug 15 UTC
When I use press to discover a traitor in an alliance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Vj3Lmq27M

it's basically the same
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LittleItaly (355 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Requesting a Sub for an Empire Game as Heartland
gameID=163829. This is the game, I don't think I will be able to play the game with a 1 1/2 day limit, as I will be going out of town soon and I am not sure when or for how long I will have internet access. So requesting someone to sub-in for the game please.

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NunaEtsuko (100 D)
26 Jul 15 UTC
Beginner's first game
Hello,
I'm new here, never played Diplomacy, doesn't have anyone to play it with IRL so I was wondering if anyone could help me understand the game better or maybe if there's other newcomers, we can create a new game so we all discover how it works together..
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KingCyrus (516 D)
03 Aug 15 UTC
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Battle Pirates
Does anyone here play this?
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leon1122 (170 D)
01 Aug 15 UTC
Screenshots
Someone in a game that I'm playing told me that taking screenshots is against the rules. I didn't find this in the rulebook, so is it true?
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Eadan (454 D)
03 Aug 15 UTC
Rules Question
In the Spring, I take a territory from my enemy. In the Autumn I move out, but no other player moves in. In the next Build, do I get credit for holding it (and receive a build)?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 Aug 15 UTC
Game Changer in Syria?
Turkey gets involved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Martyr_Yalçın

And shoots at both ISIL and their enemy the PKK. Setting back the peace process with the Kurds signifigantly. (And nobody on the forum bothered to let me know!)
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sundaymorning (132 D)
01 Aug 15 UTC
How do you randomly select nations in a Face-2-Face game?
I just got an actual Diplomacy board game and am about to play my first Face-2-Face. What are the most common methods for randomly selecting nations? Draw out of a hat? Youngest picks first? Best Franz Ferdinand impression gets Austria?
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abgemacht (1076 D (G))
03 Aug 15 UTC
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Goose's Ready Up ASAP 3 EOG
gameID=165543

GG All!
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
02 Aug 15 UTC
Live game with the Goose
Hi all, Sort of good and bad news, in the hospital overnight with the pregnant wife, baby isn't even close to due date but I've been here for the last 3 days. Looking for something to take my mind off of it. Was wondering if anyone would like to start up a live game for later tonight, say 10pm PST?
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Nescio (1069 D)
02 Aug 15 UTC
Hunting in Texas can be dangerous :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33748027
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