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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
06 Jun 14 UTC
Defence Spending ..... interesting stats
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27727486
pangloss (363 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
They need that extra defence spending so they can put down the rebel province of Chinese Taipei.
mendax (321 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
I would like to see some actual sources before believing the USA's claims about other country's military spending.
krellin (80 D X)
06 Jun 14 UTC
/\ buries head in sand...
Tolstoy (1958 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
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"China has under-reported its 2014 defence spending by about 20%"

Says the country that does little accounting tricks like putting spending on nuclear weapons under the budget of the Department of Energy.
krellin (80 D X)
06 Jun 14 UTC
China has an aggressive space program, has gone to the Moon recently, has nuclear armed submarines on the seas now, etc.

You truly have to be an amazing dumbass to not recognize the China is spending shitloads on its military. The onyl question I have is *why* does anyone choose to be such a dumbass?
mendax (321 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
Space programs are not part of military spending, so i'm not sure why you're including it.
krellin (80 D X)
06 Jun 14 UTC
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Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Oh boy....woooo hooo....ahhhh hah ah aha ha hah ah ah ah aha h ahahahaahhahhaaah ha ha ha....

Yes...rocket technology, satellites, etc....yeah, that has *nothing* to do with the military. No transferable technology...no cross-over tech that could be usable in either. In fact, their stellites aren't even watching us....

Ahhhhhh ha ha haaa h aha ah ha ahha hah ahaa <gurrgle...cough...sputter sputter..>

Stop it, you're killing me...
Draugnar (0 D X)
06 Jun 14 UTC
Really, Mendax, are you that naïve? If it weren't for space programs, we wouldn't have half our military tech. They are just R&D applied to "exploration" to avoid calling it military spending.
mendax (321 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
Sure, there's cross-over tech. I am not denying that. I'm not sure why you made the leap there. However, by your logic, you could call all university funding part of military spending. That wouldn't, however, be either a sensible nor a useful thing to do.

Different sectors help each other. A strong financial sector can leave you in a place where you can threaten meaningful economic sanctions, for example. That does not mean that financial policy is a subset of foreign policy, as your argument would suggest.
Draugnar (0 D X)
07 Jun 14 UTC
First, our space program doesn't really exist anymore. We don't even have a launch vehicle now. And more than just some crossover tech existed in it. How many Apollo or Mercury crew were civilians? 0 zip nadda none. They were military pilots in the early days. Even throughout the shuttle's life, the commanders and pilots were all military. The majority of unmanned space launches today put military hardware in space. NASA is an extension of the military and should report at least half or more of it's spending as military spending.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
07 Jun 14 UTC
Wow... I just had an amazing brain wave. Thanks Draug for inspiring me. I might tell later what the hell I'm talking about :)

Come to think of it, it's rather far-fetched that I got this idea from your post since it's only a bit related...
krellin (80 D X)
07 Jun 14 UTC
@Draug, not to mention that a unbelievable amount of our high tech electronics come from the space program -> military -> civilians. You know those fancy pant smart phones the silly kids can't ever get their faces away from....thank the space program for that.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
07 Jun 14 UTC
Says the guy spending most of his time on the fancy internet...
Octavious (1714 D)
07 Jun 14 UTC
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Oh, does that mean European nations could start redefining ESA spending as military spending in order to meet NATO's 2% spending requirement?
NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
07 Jun 14 UTC
There is a story here and it is the fact that the USA spend over $450bn more than China, an incredible $600bn a year on defence spending.
Firstly why?, and secondly do US taxpayers give a damn, it sounds like an awful lot of cash when you compare it to everyone else.
Octavious (1714 D)
07 Jun 14 UTC
Party, of course, it's because a Chinese battalion is considerably cheaper to train and maintain than an American battalion. Partly it's because nations such as Germany significantly under spend o
Octavious (1714 D)
07 Jun 14 UTC
n their military. But mostly it's because the US is determined to have the ability to fight two major overseas fronts (or has that been reduced to one now?) and no one else has the ability to fight a single major front that isn't in their backyard.
Randomizer (189 D)
07 Jun 14 UTC
Spending is defined to make it hidden from the voters. One of those NASA space shuttles was reserved for military payloads until the military found out how "great" they really were. I think they only made one flight and went back to rocket launches.

The only real difference between a manned rocket and missile is how much you care about its condition when it lands. A manned rocket isn't supposed to make as big an impact.

China is still playing catch up with its navy so it can intimidate it its powerhouse neighbors of Vietnam, Indonesia, and the Phillipines into giving up resource rich sea territories. Just like Russia is with buying 2 amphibious landing carriers from France.


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denis (864 D)
07 Jun 14 UTC
Replacement in a live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=143078#gamePanel, England may go CD, replcement if any wants though it is an admitedly shitty position to take over
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AryavP (100 D)
07 Jun 14 UTC
Diplomacy What Up
Looking for two more players to join DiplomacyWhatUp
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Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
07 Jun 14 UTC
The poop floor
As I was cleaning my litterbox, I discovered I sat in a pile of cat shit. I got it all over my shorts. When I checked if it did happen, I got it all over my hands. I've washed them 3 times and they still smell like cat shit.

Please advise.
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kasimax (243 D)
04 Jun 14 UTC
french speaking replacement needed
as i will be absent for the next week and the last week of june and i'm only in one active game, i thought that i might as well look for a replacement player. it's a "speak french only" game though, so you'd have to understand at least a little bit of french.
gameID=139051
wta, full press. pm me, then i'll tell you the country i'm playing (to keep it anonymous) and we can arrange something!
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
Shootings and break-ins
So, my brother was there at the SPU school shooting today. Quite literally there... Scared the shit out of me when he wouldn't answer his freaking phone. Either way he's a-ok and that's what matters. My home also got broken into last night.... It's time to get a gun. For those that have one, suggestions?
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Ogion (4208 D)
06 Jun 14 UTC
Misorders?
Does anyone else find that the orders you enter pretty regularly don't actually seem to get to the servers properly? I am finding that even when I double check sometime what I get is nearly random
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
04 Jun 14 UTC
Would you rather...
Open to the forum, the rule is simple. Answer the "would you rather" from the prior post and then post your own.
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
24 May 14 UTC
UKIP - killing the Tories since 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/
Did I mention that UKIP were the right wing of the Conservative Party in the UK and were stealing votes from them left, right & centre.
Apparently it was true ...... check out those badboy results !!
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miao520 (0 D X)
06 Jun 14 UTC
Taxi 12s
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
05 Jun 14 UTC
Sign-ups for the SoW
We are close to getting this thing off the ground. We still need 1 more TA and 1 more student. If you're interested, see below.
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
05 Jun 14 UTC
Crazed Canadian lunatic shoots up the Police
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27709530

They have madmen with guns in Canada?
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pangloss (363 D)
05 Jun 14 UTC
For SYnapse
Here, argue about this.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
05 Jun 14 UTC
Muhammad Bergdahl homecoming cancelled
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27707791

How could the US Military get this so wrong .... he was gone 5 years and no one worked out he was a deserter. It makes you wonder where the Pentagon get there intel from ..... what a cock-up!!
Maybe they need a few more fortune cookies to see how Ukraine will work out .....
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mlbone (75 D)
05 Jun 14 UTC
how do you turn your game over to someone else?
I know there is a way to allow someone else to have access to babysit your games. Can someone advise how to do this?
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Crazy Anglican (194 D)
04 Jun 14 UTC
High Stakes Game?
Say 300 or 400 unless anyone wants to go higher.

WTA, Classic, full press
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mlbone (75 D)
05 Jun 14 UTC
need a replacement for a world game. Ghana, a clear eventual winner
please let me know if available. 12 hour turns, gunboat. Should be easy win.
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
04 Jun 14 UTC
In non winner-take-all game, can you solo with less than ALL the centers?
I want the solo win (and will have a majority of SCs soon). if I accept the draw once i get the majority, doesnt that mean i lose my solo? But do i really need to hold every single center to get the solo? How do you 'resign' ...so my opponents don't have to sit through the process that could take years?
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krellin (80 D X)
04 Jun 14 UTC
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Congratulate Old Krellin!
OK...time to congratulate old krellin. Today is my 20th Anniversary, and my wife is as bueatiful (and patient!!) as ever!! As a bonus, my kid's just turned 15 and 16 (I finally have a child to run car errands!) Plus, I just got an offer for a new job.

Life is good! And I love allllll of you! :)
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Thucydides (869 D (B))
09 May 14 UTC
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Community Thread
This is a thread with no rules. You can post whatever you want. It's a thread for the community, by the community. You might call it a "forum."
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Alderian (2425 D (S))
02 Jun 14 UTC
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Ghost Ratings updated
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist/ghost-ratings-by-category
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
29 May 14 UTC
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Is there no SoW going on right now?
^
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Ethics of Diplomacy
So in general, I suppose most people here would say you can, and, possibly, should do anything within the rules to increase their chance at winning.

How about, for example, pretending to be terminal, though? Is that still fine?
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Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
04 Jun 14 UTC
Damn Libtards.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/g1lev1/an-outbreak-of-liberal-idiocy?xrs=synd_facebook_060314_tds_0
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tvrocks (388 D)
04 Jun 14 UTC
Minor rule question
What happens if all countries in a game cd at the same time?
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krellin (80 D X)
04 Jun 14 UTC
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Forum Cheese
Let's play cheese!
Rules: Play to win. You can only play for one flavor. You can not move two turns in a row.
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Best Of?
I've been getting into the game a lot more recently and was wondering if there was any sort of listing of great or best games of Diplomacy. Games with great strategy, alliances, backstabs, drama, that kind of stuff.

In lue of that post your favorite or best games here. I'm up for reading some good stories.
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Yonni (190 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Laptop Advice
I'm deciding between two laptops and am hoping to illicit advice from the forum.
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Drinking healthy
I'm quite a balanced eater, so it's not exactly vital, but apart from water, it seems like almost every drink is unhealthy for your body or teeth in some way. Of course, I could just make sure I vary enough, and I do, but I still think it's good to know what's actually healthy rather than "not that bad".

I absolutely don't have to worry about too much calories, btw. I'm talking about the other stuff.
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krellin (80 D X)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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The Poop Chair
Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha!! One of our foster kittens pooped on the leather recliner....my daughter sat in it. Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha. That was awesome.

Yeah, not what you thought I was posting about, was it. Feel free to share your....er....never mind...
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