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rokakoma (19138 D)
27 Jan 14 UTC
The 1st top22 active gunboaters' game invitation
more inside
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vexlord (286 D)
27 Jan 14 UTC
gunboat challenge
one more needed
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=134087
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Favio (405 D)
27 Jan 14 UTC
Hello all
Its been a while. I'd like to play some quality gunboat games for old times sake. I'd like to be at least 101 point buy in. 24-36 hour phases so everyone has time to get moves in. etc. This is sort of an invitational so I'd like to get some good players to play against.
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krellin (80 D X)
27 Jan 14 UTC
Opera Singer Farts...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/27/amy-herbst-farting-opera-singer_n_4674264.html

I should think all the wailing and screeching would cover up the little squishy farts....(ps. I thought the huffington puffington post was the best <ironic> source for a story about a Libtard unable to control foul gaseous releases) (...and yes, I just assume the opera singer is a Libtard...it just works better...)
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nukemod (100 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
Why do people play Gunboat?
I'm not denouncing the game mode here. I was just wondering why people want to play Diplomacy without the negotiation aspect. To me, it seems to defeat the purpose of playing the game. I would be happy if someone could clarify this for me.
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2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
"It is instead much more about knowing what your opponents are thinking and planning and using that information to optimize your own strategy."

This is a reactionary strategy. If your strategy is based entirely on what your opponents tell you, then you won't be around very long. Your moves need to be in your best interest, not your opponent's worst interest.
Draugnar (0 D X)
25 Jan 14 UTC
If your moves are always in your best interest (visually at least) then you have two problems. One, you become predictable. That will get you eliminated quicker than a hamburger in front of Wimpy. Two, it will put off your allies because they won't trust you to share in the spoils.

No, it's a fine line must be balanced between best for you and best for the allies of the moment.
2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
You of course need to take your allies into consideration. I'm saying that you can't formulate a strategy purely based on moves that compromise your opponent. If that was the case, it would be chaotic.
2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
But you're mostly right.
Draugnar (0 D X)
25 Jan 14 UTC
See? I'm the Chuck Norris of WebDip. :-)
Octavious (1722 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
I haven't had a Wimpy burger for well over a decade. Do they still exist?
oscarjd74 (100 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
How is knowing what your opponents are thinking and planning a reactionary strategy? You can be very pro-active in what you do with such information.

Also, I didn't say press is _only_ about gathering information. It's also about building trust and alliances and trying to influence the decisions of others of course. Just not, as some seem to think, to the extent where you can easily get others to act against their own self-interest. It's way more subtle than that.

In any case, Draugnar is right about the fine line. The trick is to keep the balance in your own favor but not so much as to raise suspicion or alarm with your allies and see them start working against you.
2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
Because you don't know what your opponents are thinking. You only know what they tell you.
jmo1121109 (3797 D Mod)
25 Jan 14 UTC
@oscarjd74, well I'm not sure what else to say considering you completely ignored my whole description that each top press player has their own approach. I guess when you get your win/draw percentage over 72% and break the sites top 5 in Ghost Rating I'll be willing to consider you know better then rokakomo, myself, and the other top players posting here. Until that point best of luck to you with your rather flawed strategy.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
I haven't mentioned any strategy so it's surprising that you would conclude that it is flawed. Nor do I see how top players each having their own approach, which I agree they do, has any bearing on my point that in full press against capable opponents you can't just go and trick people into making unsound moves as some proponents of gunboat in this thread seem to think.

Congrats on your stats though. Obviously I haven't got any yet as I'm new on the site. I guess that's reason enough for you to dismiss whatever I say. I've finished top 3 in 64% and top 4 in 75% of my face to face games listed on http://world-diplomacy-database.com though, if that counts at all for you. Given that draws are often 3 or 4 players I'd say that comes pretty close to the 72% that is apparently your threshold for taking someone seriously. I'm not claiming to be a top player or anything but I think I can certainly say that I am at least a pretty decent one.
Draugnar (0 D X)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Oscar, I have a spot in a full press 10 player modern game if you are interested. We talk trash (so don't be easily offended) in the global press, but take the game seriously in the private press.
2ndWhiteLine (3375 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
Oscar, you're more than welcome to put your money where Draugnar currently has his balls and join us in the modern variant.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Thanks for the offer. I prefer to play the standard variant though. I'd be happy to join one of those.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Also, no I don't get easily offended. lol.
MKECharlie (1926 D (G))
26 Jan 14 UTC
Oops, I'm late to this thread, and don't want to go through 3 pages.

Someone may have answered the question already, but I'm pretty sure it's been well established that people play gunboat because they have small penises.

You're welcome.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
26 Jan 14 UTC
Thanks Charlie. I play both full press and gunboat and I can confirm. The latter causes extreme shrinkage, like swimming in freezing cold water, whilst the former is more like being in a hot tub with six hot girls that all want a piece of you.
peterwiggin (15100 D Mod (S))
26 Jan 14 UTC
I want to play this Oscar guy, welcome him to the site, and see if he's as good as he says he is. Anybody else interested?
Dovale (544 D)
26 Jan 14 UTC
http://www.diplom.org/Zine/F2006M/Burton/DP_F2006M_best_powers.htm

Based on these statistics it seems the power you are randomly assigned is more important in gunboat games than press games.

In press games you can turn your initial disadvantages and advantages into selling points during negotiation, while in gunboat games your starting conditions reduce your flexibility.

I'm sure some of you can read further into these numbers and draw deeper conclusions.
In a gunboat, everyone acts in the way they think is in their own best interests. The reason why every game is not the same is because everyone thinks the way to achieve that is slightly different. Some people believe the best way to act in your best interests is to assist others to a minor degree to cover your own selfishness. That is completely logical. It is also logical to assume that every one of your neighbours who performs selflessly has major ulterior motives, but sometimes it is best to go along with them because despite that, it's your best chance of winning. And thus, alliances are formed.
Draugnar (0 D X)
27 Jan 14 UTC
That's true of full press as well, dDST.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
27 Jan 14 UTC
@peterwiggin

Although I prefer anonymous games, if you create a game and invite me I'll make an exception. And I didn't say I'm that good. I'm well above average in face-to-face dip, but that's quite a different game from on line dip. Also, it's been a couple of years since I last played so I might be rusty.


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Ogion (4388 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
Why are there non anonymous games?
Since meta gaming is strictly prohibited and frowned upon I have to say I see no benefit to having non anonymous games. All it does is allow people to carry grudges or othe stuff from past games rather than playing the game at hand. Similarly, there seems to be no clear reason why usernames can't also change
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
23 Jan 14 UTC
Moroccans and rape ......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25855025

It's 2014 FFS ..... when will we stop abusing women !!
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JECE (1322 D)
27 Jan 14 UTC
So I hate to join all the desperate cries for help on the forum, but . . .
Does anybody here know where I could find efficient study aids for learning about general vector spaces (subspaces, basis, matrix transformations, etc.), eigenvalues & eigenvectors and general linear transformations? Using the textbook is very slow and I only have a few days.
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Thucydides (869 D (B))
08 Jan 14 UTC
"Did the resurrection of Jesus actually take place?" The Great Debate #3
"Did the resurrection of Jesus actually take place?" Putin33 representing atheism, and dipplayer2004 representing Christian theism. Full debate transcript inside!
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krellin (80 D X)
21 Jan 14 UTC
WikiLeaks Vindicates Bush
http://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2010/12/09/the_wikileaks_vindication_of_george_w_bush

Awww....looks like Bush DID NOT lie...WMD's in Iraq after all. How about that...the mainstream media lied to us. <shock..awe...>
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Jan 14 UTC
Oh Rand Paul...You Make Me Laugh...
http://news.yahoo.com/rand-paul-bill-clinton-war-on-women-175239980.html That was 15 YEARS AGO. Whether or not there's a "War on Women" today (discrimination? Yes. A war? Frankly, after the "War on Drugs," and "War on Christmas," I'm pretty damn suspicious of "War on __" statements) or not...it's the GOP's PR faux paus NOW that lead to Mitt Romney losing that electorate by 11%...CLINTON *WAS* WRONG...but that doesn't mean your party's any better NOW.
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Balrog (219 D)
26 Jan 14 UTC
Anonymity
How do I make myself anonymous in a game?
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bo_sox48 (4499 D Mod (G))
26 Jan 14 UTC
Firefighters Meet Snoop
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-24/firemen-called-to-smoking-snoop-doggs-room/5217886?section=vic

"smoke from an unidentifiable source"......
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tendmote (100 D (B))
26 Jan 14 UTC
Is Communism a form of religious belief?
Is Communism a form of religious belief, where instead of seeing God’s hand at work in all things, one sees the class struggle? When historical events are re-interpreted from a Communist viewpoint in a discussion with non-Communists, is the effect the same as when believers re-interpret historical events as divine intervention, in a discussion with atheists?
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Draugnar (0 D X)
10 Jan 14 UTC
Assholes of the world unite!
Let's get another asshole game going, this time on the world map!

FP, WTA, 50 D, World Map, non-anon, must not be a thin-skinned fucktard.
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
22 Jan 14 UTC
On homeless-ness
http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
24 Jan 14 UTC
Making a comeback
I have actually played any diplomacy in quiet a while.

So for my comeback special, i'd like to invite all interested parties!
gameID=134328 (wta, non-anon, full-press, classic)
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tendmote (100 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
BEEF GAME Needs one more!
I'm setting up the best Beef Game ever gameID=134413: tendmote vs. strauss, michiganman, lando calrissian, putin33, krellin, and one special guest
If you want to be the final player just let me know and get me or one of the other players to give you the password, "mutethemods"
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Al Swearengen (0 D X)
18 Jan 14 UTC
Live Full Press
Details in a moment

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=133895
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LSseckman (100 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
Is this a record?
gameID=132855

Credit to Frenchie 29 being a good sport about prolonging the game to make this happen
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jmo1121109 (3797 D Mod)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Moderator Team Updates
Congratulations to goldfinger0303 for your promotion as the sites newest admin. Captainmeme will be stepping down as an admin due to time constraints, but will still be staying on the team as the vDiplomacy guest moderator to help our two sites stay in contact.
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tendmote (100 D (B))
25 Jan 14 UTC
ADVERTISE YOUR LIVE GAMES HERE
Utilize this thread by posting new live games here and only here.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Wisdom or Rubbish? A Thread for Evaluating Famous One-Line Nuggets of Advice.
Post your favorite--or most hated--one-line maxim or saying or quote or *insert another synonym here.*

The next person to post will then say what they think of your posted saying, ie, Wisdom or Rubbish and why, and post their own little one-liner. Repeat until hell freezes over (or we get bored...or we devolve into a name-calling contest...whichever comes first...ha, as if it's a question which will come first...)
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versanshie (297 D)
25 Jan 14 UTC
Rank falling dramatically
So, one day my rank said that I was in the top 62% and I was considered a member... but then randomly it fell to the top 92% and now I'm a casual player. I didn't draw, win, lose, survive, or resign any games in between this period. Why did this happen?
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Deutschland97 (227 D)
20 Jan 14 UTC
ATTENTION ALL LIBERALS...
If you had to go conservative on any subject of debate, what would it be?
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
Draws in PPSC
I was wondering to myself why the pot is split evenly in a PPSC draw. I thought it would make more sense, and make things more interesting, if the draw ended the game and dealt out the points each player is currently "worth" in the game.
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ssorenn (2550 D (G))
16 Jan 14 UTC
SoW for gunboat players
Hamster...have you thought about opening a school for gunboat as it is almost entirely a different strategy?
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Draugnar (0 D X)
24 Jan 14 UTC
LOL Funny!
At least for Star Wars geeks like me it is. Completely safe for work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyqfHvoUtkU
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
19 Jan 14 UTC
Surely not another religious retard
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

David Cameron causing floods by supporting legislation on gay marriage ..... what a nasty bastard he is !!
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
23 Jan 14 UTC
Woman Gang Raped in India
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-25855325

she did a right to appeal ...... I guess not !!
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