MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[RagingIke297]

this entire game is based on mechanics

so I gotta sheep some bright minds

bozo, I've become your assistant

I agree that Ezio is most likely the alien and dargorygel was most likely the assassin. However, emc has caused enough doubt by claiming to be the NK target N2, and now saying that claim was fake, that I think it is worth waiting a day to go after the alien, since we should know 100% who the alien is D6. To make sure the alien does not control 4 votes on D6, I think RagingIke should be the lynch today, since RagingIke is in the scum pool by POE.

I'm like 2% in the scum pool by POE, I've been roleblocked twice....

[Jamiet99uk]

What do you mean by "I got Ike"?

He means he detected
Poor Ike was infected

[bozotheclown]

but okay:

This is what I hardclaim.
Have no clue if Ike was infected or not, all I know for sure is that he shows positive for alien DNA

Do you have a night 3 result to report?

Moscow can't be the alien :)

Mhh caught up now

why are we listening to Ezio when we didn't listen to worcej lol

but I guess that's my fault for trolling around, apologies.

*sigh*
Might as well stop with it now, it's becoming actively detrimental;

No, I wasn't the actual N2 nk, thought I made it rather obvious I was trolling xd (especially with listing and hedging to that insane point lmao)

that's why I actually thought the yavu nk made sense as doc hunt, since I assumed that they stole the reverse dna kit

dunno why people still think I'm not the alien cop, again, guess I'll have to spell it out XD
Yes, I am alien cop.
Actually not sure who I scanned N4, since I scanned Ezio and got a negative, so it means he got switched with someone who was clear -- with who I don't know: Anyone want to claim being driven asides from Ezio?

D4 you said you had a clear report on MoscowFleet when he was driven, but today you knew your scan result was for whoever was driven with Ezio. Why did you think your N3 result was for MoscowFleet? Can you definitely confirm Ezio's claim that he was driven?

[bozotheclown]

this entire game is based on mechanics

so I gotta sheep some bright minds

bozo, I've become your assistant

I agree that Ezio is most likely the alien and dargorygel was most likely the assassin. However, emc has caused enough doubt by claiming to be the NK target N2, and now saying that claim was fake, that I think it is worth waiting a day to go after the alien, since we should know 100% who the alien is D6. To make sure the alien does not control 4 votes on D6, I think RagingIke should be the lynch today, since RagingIke is in the scum pool by POE.

I'm like 2% in the scum pool by POE, I've been roleblocked twice....

The RB was driven to you N1, so scum had no control over who ended up getting that RB. The N2 RB claim could be faked by scum. The fact that you are arguing that the N1 RB should in any way contribute to your being town read is somewhat suspicious.

[Jamiet99uk]

See, my concern is that most of Ezio's plans this game have been about letting the Alien live just one more day...

Please support this claim. Which plans are you referring to?

Well for example you spent a lot of D4 advocating that we shouldn't hunt for the Alien. Look at your posts on page 148 for instance.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ezio might be right about lynching RagingIke, mind you.

I remain pretty damn sure Ezio is a little green man.

[Jamiet99uk]

Where are Thamrick and Lord Queef?

[RagingIke297]

I agree that Ezio is most likely the alien and dargorygel was most likely the assassin. However, emc has caused enough doubt by claiming to be the NK target N2, and now saying that claim was fake, that I think it is worth waiting a day to go after the alien, since we should know 100% who the alien is D6. To make sure the alien does not control 4 votes on D6, I think RagingIke should be the lynch today, since RagingIke is in the scum pool by POE.

I'm like 2% in the scum pool by POE, I've been roleblocked twice....

The RB was driven to you N1, so scum had no control over who ended up getting that RB. The N2 RB claim could be faked by scum. The fact that you are arguing that the N1 RB should in any way contribute to your being town read is somewhat suspicious.

Whatever dude, mafia wouldn't have know the first one was driven

[e.m.c^42]

Do you have a night 3 result to report?

Moscow can't be the alien :)

Mhh caught up now

why are we listening to Ezio when we didn't listen to worcej lol

but I guess that's my fault for trolling around, apologies.

*sigh*
Might as well stop with it now, it's becoming actively detrimental;

No, I wasn't the actual N2 nk, thought I made it rather obvious I was trolling xd (especially with listing and hedging to that insane point lmao)

that's why I actually thought the yavu nk made sense as doc hunt, since I assumed that they stole the reverse dna kit

dunno why people still think I'm not the alien cop, again, guess I'll have to spell it out XD
Yes, I am alien cop.
Actually not sure who I scanned N4, since I scanned Ezio and got a negative, so it means he got switched with someone who was clear -- with who I don't know: Anyone want to claim being driven asides from Ezio?

D4 you said you had a clear report on MoscowFleet when he was driven, but today you knew your scan result was for whoever was driven with Ezio. Why did you think your N3 result was for MoscowFleet? Can you definitely confirm Ezio's claim that he was driven?

I said Moscow for N3 so that rivera could confirm who it was :D

but now rivera isn't here to confirm the drive(d) + I chose to scan Ezio and got a "no alien DNA" -- which would either mean Percy is alien (seems unlikely imo), or that Ezio is being honest about being trucked and scan went on someone else. Mainly the latter point is making me believe his driven claim tho.

[bozotheclown]

I'm like 2% in the scum pool by POE, I've been roleblocked twice....

The RB was driven to you N1, so scum had no control over who ended up getting that RB. The N2 RB claim could be faked by scum. The fact that you are arguing that the N1 RB should in any way contribute to your being town read is somewhat suspicious.

Whatever dude, mafia wouldn't have know the first one was driven

They would if it was driven back to them.

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE
VOTE COUNT 5.2

Ezio (4) thamrick, LQ, Jamiet, Nephthys
RagingIke297 (3) Ike, bozo, Vaporwave
Jamiet99uk (1) Vecna

No-Lynch (1) Ezio

No End votes
Non-voters: emc, Ezio, Percy

Ezio is scheduled for an appointment with death.
1 day, 2 hours, 40 minutes left in day 5.

[dargorygel]

... that moment when GMing... when you excitedly realize that your schedule is CLEAR for EoD (after a wild crazy busy LAST EoN and EoD,) and you can plan to HELP the real GM on THIS EoD... and then it sinks in that EoD is TOMORROW afternoon, not today.

[RagingIke297]

The RB was driven to you N1, so scum had no control over who ended up getting that RB. The N2 RB claim could be faked by scum. The fact that you are arguing that the N1 RB should in any way contribute to your being town read is somewhat suspicious.

Whatever dude, mafia wouldn't have know the first one was driven

They would if it was driven back to them.

Why would I have waited so long to claim? Wouldn't I claim right away for easy town points?

[bozotheclown]

Whatever dude, mafia wouldn't have know the first one was driven

They would if it was driven back to them.

Why would I have waited so long to claim? Wouldn't I claim right away for easy town points?

What was the reason for waiting so long to claim? Why did you claim the RB right away on D3?

[RagingIke297]

They would if it was driven back to them.

Why would I have waited so long to claim? Wouldn't I claim right away for easy town points?

What was the reason for waiting so long to claim? Why did you claim the RB right away on D3?

Because I was also driven and wanted to see if anyone would start asking around about the role block

[Percy Williams]

@Nephthys: What do you think of lynching RagingIke while Ezio and emc self vote?

Does self voting alien allow them to be manipulated votes?
##Call GM
Better worded: does night one infected which states they cannot vote on alien supersede the stage two infection which says the votes get automatically manipulated?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Nephthys: What do you think of lynching RagingIke while Ezio and emc self vote?

Does self voting alien allow them to be manipulated votes?
##Call GM
Better worded: does night one infected which states they cannot vote on alien supersede the stage two infection which says the votes get automatically manipulated?

What?

[ND]

@Nephthys: What do you think of lynching RagingIke while Ezio and emc self vote?

Does self voting alien allow them to be manipulated votes?
##Call GM
Better worded: does night one infected which states they cannot vote on alien supersede the stage two infection which says the votes get automatically manipulated?

Good question. It does not. The second day part of the vote manipulation replaces the first day part of it. If that makes sense.

[Percy Williams]

That is the problem, emc caused enough doubt that it is not 100% Ezio is the alien, and the one who is not the alien will be a town clear if we wait until D6 when we are sure about the alien.

Yes but we have no ccs to our PRs, Percy still holds his save and we will have 4 PRs. This can have us two clears going into the final 7 (worst case). Those are odds I am happy with.

That being said, I haven't done the maths about Ezio's plan but someone is just a likely to mess with it as a final attempt to do something as alien. Relying on a 3rd party to conform is not something that I like to rely on.

What can the third party do to break it? If EMC hops onto my wagon it's clear that he's trying to make it look like I'm the Alien. This is why I'm on noLynch.

With Ezio sitting on no lynch, I think we're right in an Ezio lynch.

[Ezio]

Yes but we have no ccs to our PRs, Percy still holds his save and we will have 4 PRs. This can have us two clears going into the final 7 (worst case). Those are odds I am happy with.

That being said, I haven't done the maths about Ezio's plan but someone is just a likely to mess with it as a final attempt to do something as alien. Relying on a 3rd party to conform is not something that I like to rely on.

What can the third party do to break it? If EMC hops onto my wagon it's clear that he's trying to make it look like I'm the Alien. This is why I'm on noLynch.

With Ezio sitting on no lynch, I think we're right in an Ezio lynch.

Percy you understand I don't actually want a noLynch, right? I'm only here b/c it's an obvious out of the way wagon. I want Ike to get lynched but my top priority is to be on a different wagon than EMC.