Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[dargorygel]

@ Jamie
Can you explain (i might have missed it, if so I apologize) why you think Ike is townishly cleared in his new manifestation?

And I will read bozo.
My previous scumlean was LordQuas... but I am no longer leaning that way.

It is worth seeing who's powers come into play this epoch.

And... I am wondering about a mass claim. It gives us information, which we are sorely in need of. It seems to me that scum is fear-killing. Although I realize that we don't know which death each night was SKed and which was NKed. But my thought is that scum don't seem to be PR hunting (I don't see PR crumbs...) I also realize that if we Mass Claim they might START PR killing. But I think the benefit of combining our powers might outweigh that danger.

[dargorygel]

only the beginning was specifically at Jamie... the big paragraph is for everyone.

[Nephthys]

GM NOTE: Alright well I forgot to mention scum also has a list of fake claimable roles in the event of massclaim. Alot of these things I just assume people knew were standard in role madness so I didnt mention them.

##Call GM, so this means that also scum know EXACTLY what roles are in play as town then???

[Jamiet99uk]

@ Jamie
Can you explain (i might have missed it, if so I apologize) why you think Ike is townishly cleared in his new manifestation?

I have now answered this three times.

Brainbomb made an error in the Roles document on Google Docs in which he listed the role with the D1 vigshot as becoming "Vanilla Town" after the first era. This was apparently a mistake and has been clarified / retconned.

Go and read my most recent reads list just before EoN.

[Nephthys]

@ Jamie
Can you explain (i might have missed it, if so I apologize) why you think Ike is townishly cleared in his new manifestation?

And I will read bozo.
My previous scumlean was LordQuas... but I am no longer leaning that way.

It is worth seeing who's powers come into play this epoch.

And... I am wondering about a mass claim. It gives us information, which we are sorely in need of. It seems to me that scum is fear-killing. Although I realize that we don't know which death each night was SKed and which was NKed. But my thought is that scum don't seem to be PR hunting (I don't see PR crumbs...) I also realize that if we Mass Claim they might START PR killing. But I think the benefit of combining our powers might outweigh that danger.

On the assumption that through basic POE scum can work out exactly what town roles we have then yes. I think a mass claim may have to come out

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE: Alright well I forgot to mention scum also has a list of fake claimable roles in the event of massclaim. Alot of these things I just assume people knew were standard in role madness so I didnt mention them.

WTF will you please try to get something right?

Giving scum extra tools like this just imbalances this setup even more badly.

[CrimsonFox]

and somehow in all that education you are still fucking stupid

[Jamiet99uk]

@ Jamie
Can you explain (i might have missed it, if so I apologize) why you think Ike is townishly cleared in his new manifestation?

And I will read bozo.
My previous scumlean was LordQuas... but I am no longer leaning that way.

It is worth seeing who's powers come into play this epoch.

And... I am wondering about a mass claim. It gives us information, which we are sorely in need of. It seems to me that scum is fear-killing. Although I realize that we don't know which death each night was SKed and which was NKed. But my thought is that scum don't seem to be PR hunting (I don't see PR crumbs...) I also realize that if we Mass Claim they might START PR killing. But I think the benefit of combining our powers might outweigh that danger.

On the assumption that through basic POE scum can work out exactly what town roles we have then yes. I think a mass claim may have to come out

Well no apparently not because the GM has given scum a script to read out to us in the event of a mass claim, so they can remain in the clear.

[CrimsonFox]

you have called 2 people PR hunting when we were just asking questions based on what someone else said.

[Jamiet99uk]

and somehow in all that education you are still fucking stupid

Stop being a whiny little shit and tell me what your problem is?

[Jamiet99uk]

you have called 2 people PR hunting when we were just asking questions based on what someone else said.

PR hunting involves asking questions, duh.

[Nephthys]

@ Jamie
Can you explain (i might have missed it, if so I apologize) why you think Ike is townishly cleared in his new manifestation?

And I will read bozo.
My previous scumlean was LordQuas... but I am no longer leaning that way.

It is worth seeing who's powers come into play this epoch.

And... I am wondering about a mass claim. It gives us information, which we are sorely in need of. It seems to me that scum is fear-killing. Although I realize that we don't know which death each night was SKed and which was NKed. But my thought is that scum don't seem to be PR hunting (I don't see PR crumbs...) I also realize that if we Mass Claim they might START PR killing. But I think the benefit of combining our powers might outweigh that danger.

On the assumption that through basic POE scum can work out exactly what town roles we have then yes. I think a mass claim may have to come out

Well no apparently not because the GM has given scum a script to read out to us in the event of a mass claim, so they can remain in the clear.

It does somewhat level the field. It gives us some information that we didn't have before. There are 36 possible roles. There are 20 active in this game. While we find out 4 fake roles, we also guarantee 12 roles that are NOT in the game

[Jamiet99uk]

You fuckers are lucky I'm actually sober right now.

[CrimsonFox]

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[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE: Alright well I forgot to mention scum also has a list of fake claimable roles in the event of massclaim. Alot of these things I just assume people knew were standard in role madness so I didnt mention them.

##CALL GM

Please publish this list so that everyone may see it.

[Nephthys]

On the assumption that through basic POE scum can work out exactly what town roles we have then yes. I think a mass claim may have to come out

Well no apparently not because the GM has given scum a script to read out to us in the event of a mass claim, so they can remain in the clear.

It does somewhat level the field. It gives us some information that we didn't have before. There are 36 possible roles. There are 20 active in this game. While we find out 4 fake roles, we also guarantee 12 roles that are NOT in the game

Also, many of the roles are verifiable and so scum would have to be careful about that.

At this stage I support a mass claim pending brainbombs response to my question

[CrimsonFox]

you have called 2 people PR hunting when we were just asking questions based on what someone else said.

PR hunting involves asking questions, duh.

i see....so you have no interest in actually solving the game.

someone else said that someone's Vanilla Town claim was in fact an admission of guilt because there "weren't enough town claims left". This was news to me, buttercup.

Which is why I wondered if there were in fact that many town claims as it was a good observation if so.

But as I hadn't seen that happen I wanted to verify it.

[CrimsonFox]

Well no apparently not because the GM has given scum a script to read out to us in the event of a mass claim, so they can remain in the clear.

It does somewhat level the field. It gives us some information that we didn't have before. There are 36 possible roles. There are 20 active in this game. While we find out 4 fake roles, we also guarantee 12 roles that are NOT in the game

Also, many of the roles are verifiable and so scum would have to be careful about that.

At this stage I support a mass claim pending brainbombs response to my question

other mason, buttercup

[Jamiet99uk]

you have called 2 people PR hunting when we were just asking questions based on what someone else said.

PR hunting involves asking questions, duh.

i see....so you have no interest in actually solving the game.

someone else said that someone's Vanilla Town claim was in fact an admission of guilt because there "weren't enough town claims left". This was news to me, buttercup.

Which is why I wondered if there were in fact that many town claims as it was a good observation if so.

But as I hadn't seen that happen I wanted to verify it.

I am very interested in solving the game. However that's apparently impossible because the GM has designed the game so that town cannot win.

[brainbomb]

GM NOTE: Alright well I forgot to mention scum also has a list of fake claimable roles in the event of massclaim. Alot of these things I just assume people knew were standard in role madness so I didnt mention them.

##Call GM, so this means that also scum know EXACTLY what roles are in play as town then???

no because there are plenty of overflow roles as well.