M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[Tom Bombadil]

I believe both worcej and food for the time being.

Excluding you and worcej, the rest in order of towniness to scuminess

bozo
xorxes
Vecna
kgray
Neph
Chaqa
summit
damo

I don't have a ton of conviction. Summit has seemed townier today, and I'm growing more suspicious of kgray - who has been pretty absent this phase, wasn't night killed and faced no heat d1. I don't think Neph's actions D1 are really alignment indicative as I think as town he could forget about the game and screw up - I find his explanation plausible.

[Vecna]

I like this GM. He gave me a present.

@Vecna, did damo say what he meant by this? If he was softing Vig like you thought he would not be voting for me now.

Dont think he said much at all since i replaced in, but that definately needs some explaining.

[Vecna]

Excuse me, it's early and I can't computer well. Amended above - thank you Damo. (And you have now met the posting requirement. Have a frosty chocolate milkshake as a reward). Vote count in this post is accurate, I think.

Nevermind, it was about this.

I still dont get it, care to explain?

[xorxes]

Excuse me, it's early and I can't computer well. Amended above - thank you Damo. (And you have now met the posting requirement. Have a frosty chocolate milkshake as a reward). Vote count in this post is accurate, I think.

Nevermind, it was about this.

I still dont get it, care to explain?

"thank you Damo. (And you have now met the posting requirement. Have a frosty chocolate milkshake as a reward"

[Vecna]

oh that post came after the gm post. ok

[Vecna]

##unvote

[summit_fever]

##unvote

Just a heads-up you can't unvote.

[Chaqa]

It still doesn't read like a joke to me. He had been earlier spouting kgray had been scum and seemed to be continuing it.

This is the full extent of my "spouting" kgray had been scum:

I think she was scum only once and if I remember correctly she would avoid having an opinion on things.

You do realize you are basing your read of me on just that, right?

Hey, if people can catch me as scum for not remembering Kakarot, I can catch you as scum for this.

[xorxes]

It still doesn't read like a joke to me. He had been earlier spouting kgray had been scum and seemed to be continuing it.

This is the full extent of my "spouting" kgray had been scum:

I think she was scum only once and if I remember correctly she would avoid having an opinion on things.

You do realize you are basing your read of me on just that, right?

Hey, if people can catch me as scum for not remembering Kakarot, I can catch you as scum for this.

But your description of this as "spouting kgray had been scum" suggests you had something different in mind.

[Chaqa]

This is the full extent of my "spouting" kgray had been scum:



You do realize you are basing your read of me on just that, right?

Hey, if people can catch me as scum for not remembering Kakarot, I can catch you as scum for this.

But your description of this as "spouting kgray had been scum" suggests you had something different in mind.

I'm not sure what you mean.

[xorxes]

Hey, if people can catch me as scum for not remembering Kakarot, I can catch you as scum for this.

But your description of this as "spouting kgray had been scum" suggests you had something different in mind.

I'm not sure what you mean.

spout
/spaʊt/
verb
2.
express (one's views or ideas) in a lengthy, declamatory, and unreflecting way.

What I said can hardly be described as "spouting", so you must be thinking I said something different than what I actually did say.

[foodcoats]

##unvote

Do you no longer think xorxes is scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.5

xorxes(4) - Chaqa, foodcoats, Damo666, Vecna
Nephthys(3) - summit_fever, kgray, bozotheclown
summit_fever(2) - worcej, Nephthys
damo666(2) - Tom Bombadil, Xorxes

Currently XORXES is set to be lynched.

20 hours and two minutes remain in Day Two.

Reminder: "Unvote" is not valid in this game. Unvotes will not be recognised. Vecna's vote remains on Xorxes at this time.

[bozotheclown]

It's funny cause last game bozo was certain me misremembering was scum indicative and now me forgetting this game is scum indicative

You still have not explained your 2 posts in the middle of D1.

The one at Chaqa needs to explanation

As for xorx, there were cases, I agreed with them.
Damo, the intro looked a lil weird and I didn't like it

Then why were you responding to posts earlier than these, in order, at the beginning of D2 like you had never read that part of the thread before?

[Nephthys]

You still have not explained your 2 posts in the middle of D1.

The one at Chaqa needs to explanation

As for xorx, there were cases, I agreed with them.
Damo, the intro looked a lil weird and I didn't like it

Then why were you responding to posts earlier than these, in order, at the beginning of D2 like you had never read that part of the thread before?

Because I forgot about this game. I forgot what was happening.

I refuse to answer anything further about this. It is getting ridiculous

[xorxes]

Do you agree with my analysis of xorxes? Do you think xorxes is more likely to be town despite his strange behaviour?

Can you explain your case against bozo? You previously indicated suspicion at his use of quotes without context, but bozo 1) does something strange at the beginning of nearly every game and 2) has now moved onto a pretty standard questioning tack. bozo does not seem out of sorts to me, but perhaps I've missed something.

I agree with your analysis of Xorxes but not necessarily your conclusion. Xorxes' lacks bozo's industry in researching previous games and his memory may just have been faulty. You have a case of sorts but I don't think it's particularly strong.

My bozo vote was based on his early posts with the quotes and no commentary but as you rightly say and as summit has also pointed out he has moved up a gear. I just have a feeling bozo may have latched on to your analysis to try and drive a Xorxes lynch. I am pretty confident they are not both scum and they could both be town.

My vote is staying on bozo chiefly because I'm not sure who else to vote for.

Willing to put Damo as a pretty decent townread after this. He dont produce this stuff as scum.

@Vecna, I reread your walls and this is the post that convinced you that damo is town, correct?

In this post damo agrees with food's analysis of me, but not with its conclusion.

Then he explains his bozo vote, based on bozo's weird initial posts of quotes from previous games. He thinks bozo might have latched onto food's analysis to try to lynch me. He is comfident we are not both scum, but we could both be town.

Is that what you say scum!damo can't produce? Can you elaborate? Is it the blatant hedginess?

To me it reads like he wants to encourage foodcoats but he doesn't want to be responsible for a mislynch. He also throws some shade on bozo, but again it feels more like he wants others to suspect him while he doesn't really.

[xorxes]

Assuming

1 worcej is town due to claim
2 Neph is town else he would have caused lynch
3 Vecna is town because scumemc would have made an effort to vote

then

if Xorxes is town with me scum were presumably all on one wagon giving only 2 possible scum teams, namely

food Bozo Chaqa OR kgray Tom summit

@damo, can you explain more this presumption that if we're both town then all scum were on one wagon? It seems to me that in that case it is far more likely they were distributed on both wagons (or even off wagons, Neph and emc). Why would all scum concentrate on one wagon when the competing wagon was also town?

If Xorxes is scum his team mates must be 2 from kgray Tom and summit.

Therefore logically I must ##vote Xorxes

Assuming I am correct then whichever way he flips we are only one mislynch away from victory.

You later amended this to two mislynches away from victory, but how does that work? We are currently 8-3(+1) (because of the double vote). If we mislynch, tomorrow is 6-3(+1), which is mylo. If worcej and food are telling the truth, we don't have a vig shot left. The only way we have more than one mislynch left is if Judicator manages to stop a kill (by saving someone or by commuting the killer).

[xorxes]

Some PR thoughts.

Assuming worcej and foodcoats are both telling the truth.

It is very unlikely that the roleblock was used N1, because scum would want to use the cop scan first so as to know more effectively where to use the roleblock, and also because vig hitting scum D1 is more unlikely than D2.

That means that since both vig shots failed, one must have been stopped by the judicator or by the Tough Guy.

The judicator is the only one who knows if they commuted one of worcej/food/emc/summit.

If they didn't commute any of them, then they know one of Vecna/summit is almost certainly scum (unless worcej or food is lying).

Unfortunately, if judicator tells us this today they will almost certainly be killed tonight, so it's probably better to wait. But they should probably speak up at the last minute of the day so that we don't lose that info if they die tonight.

[xorxes]

Remember everyone, because of the double-vote we only have one mislynch left.

Today it's 8 vs 3(+1).

If we mislynch and nighkill is successful, tomorrow is 6 vs 3(+1). That's mylo.

[kgray]

My townread of emc has evaporated a bit, and Vecna finding me scummy is in my eyes scummy.

How could your townread of emc have evaporated when emc has done nothing (except be replaced) since your read of him?

Chaqa I'm pretty sure is scum by now. He says he had no time at EOD to evaluate things, but made a post evauating exactly how things were. He was happy with both wagons but made no effort to ensure that one of the wagons was lynched.

I'm not sure how this is different from Neph, whom you townread. Just because Chaqa was voting for you?