M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[brainbomb]

do people not realize flash votes me every game regardless of align.

[Foxcastle]

Observations over 10+ pages.

The BobMcBob-Squigs interaction strikes me as possible SvS. But if it's not, I think BobMcBob is more likely town. Scum would be more controlled.

Oh, but then BobMcBob comes out with a big list of reads that makes me wonder if he's compensating for the conflict by trying to appear productive by scumreading a bunch of people (but backing off Squigs and leaving him NAI?). I thought he was an older player come back from the beforetimes, but if he's actually a newer player, I think that could make sense as town. But also as scum, so...

Kakarroto seems very null to me. When Squigs says he [Kakarroto] seems too comfortable to be scum, that makes me think he could be...

I like Jamiet's point (post 508) on the Neph-Bozo-Kakarroto-Steve thing, but I think that's in favor of Neph/Bozo/Kakarroto being town (or at least 2 of them).

Flash: the point is to policy lynch EMC so he starts participating so that we can sort him at all, ever. Brainbomb is hard to sort, yes, but that's not due to a participation deficiency.

Not liking Neph for the ewok thing and for the "concerned about who is controlling this game"... Or for "hold up, I'm going to go look at an Rdr scum game". They just rub me wrong.

Vecna asserts that everyone not on the top two wagons is town. I find that unlikely, if only because at least one scum usually squats a one/two vote wagon and sits there through EOD. (And I assume he didn't mean the SK as well.)

Did Kitsune just vanish?

Do you have any scumreads? Most of these are suuuper hedgey and set up beautifully to switch as needed to ML.

I am pretty hedgey, it's a known behavior. And my spreadsheet doesn't have a chance of calculating anything useful until a few days of data come in.

You and Squigs are currently my scumreads. But, given the selection of wagons so far, I am happy to just beat on EMC with the lesson that the sooner he starts participating meaningfully, the sooner we can dispense with this policy lynch and I can go back to warning about lurkers.

[Kitsune]

[...]
Does that mean:

1. Town is exhausted and is tired of arguing?
2. The usual suspects are all scum and love a good red herring?
3. Something else I've missed considering?

[...]
I do think about my posts, but I suppose I can stop if people don’t want me scum hunting at all. Just seems dumb.

[...]
If I get lynched I get lynched, meanwhile I’m going to focus on what I can usefully do when there’s anything to usefully sift through.
[...]

I'm surley not wanting you to stop scum hunting and you have a good attitude in doing stuff even when in a pinch, though I haven't really seen you hunt. Do you might have a busy day? I'll mark you down as hunter and see if that stands true for now.

Reading jamie I've come around from my previous statement. He looks like normal town jamie, that's true, but ever since the posts of xorx and Neph happened about reading him as town, he increased volume. Also he seems more focussed, less random, as if he has an agenda, it just rubs me the wrong way. ##vote Jamie

hmm ... I just noticed ... no one has yet said anything about everyone claiming their role in a mass claim. I think that was a big issue for some, so what happened to this topic? I think it was your big thing @bozo?

I like to hunt. I did have a busy day.

I usually hunt based on what I can feel and see over gut checks that I'm still developing given I haven't played with all of you.

I don't really have a Day 1 plan for these games. I rarely see anything that stands out in the initial chatter, although I have been increasingly aware of the conversations and movements that surround Bozo's Day 1 plans (in case you're wondering why he features so much in my initial posts).

I wanted to come back with a discussion point... but we don't know anything yet.

[e.m.c^42]

updated thoughts on cocky neph, I like it more than find it suspicious, and his thing on Jamie isn't that wrong

Jamie did bring back his anal grammar persona back this game, after it being gone for a good number of games. It used to be associated with both his scum and town metas, but if excessive scum. However, that has no longer been true for the last, say, four or maybe five games? Don't recall exactly, but it coincides with his temper being moderated or him going sober. The point is that his meta shifted as town at least, and this is a throwback change.

so neph and his Jamie poking ain't bad

Its hardly gamebreaking but just was curious. I thought at least one person (Jamie) would comment on it

Question that pops up here is whether 1) he was offline 2) he realised he got called out for it earlier so therefore toned it down so no response or 3) following precedent just didn't notice

[brainbomb]

fox where is your observations of before the last 10 pages.?

[Foxcastle]

Has Bozo really only gotten 2 votes total? That seems lower than he usually garners from his Day 1 proposals.

Kitsune, why Bozo?

[brainbomb]

fox is workin some real sneaky angles this game. Do not trust it

[Kitsune]

Neph feels like he's rp'ing bb

to lengthen, Neph has gone near 120 in terms of tone, has upped sarcasm by a lot, and is more jocular this game than he has been, like ever. He's decidedly more confident in himself, and more grounded than usual. More willing to defend thoughts. Posts tend towards the shorter side but that is as usual since his meta evolved from old walls. Unknown if said confidence is due to 1) deliberate roleplay, as tactic - similar to how he did his whole "lhf" schtick before but for different objective, or due to being scum, or due to just being more rooted as town.

I agree with emc's observations here. Neph does strike me as being jocular and confident in his posts here, although I can't speak for his past meta as we've only played the once. I'm giving him town points for this, although always possible he's running a play (so not town coring him or anyone at this stage).

[brainbomb]

##Vote Jamiet99uk

[Foxcastle]

fox where is your observations of before the last 10 pages.?

Nowhere. I'm not in the business of trying to comprehensively sort through Day 1 bluster and nonsense.

[brainbomb]

Jamie asked me 3 questions after id been gone 36 hours or more.

□why were you silenced
□what did you think of steve
□why did you put boxes ■□■■■□□ in your reads

thats 3 non game advancing questions.

[Nephthys]

I love a game where 5 (i think) people have said they don't give a shit about D1. Perhaps we need to have more night starts

[Nephthys]

##Vote Jamiet99uk

Thats our 10th scumread...

[brainbomb]

1.5 hoirs to go

[Nephthys]

##Vote Jamiet99uk

Thats our 10th scumread...

Are you deliberately obfuscating this or are you truly just this scattered?

[brainbomb]

##Vote Jamiet99uk

Thats our 10th scumread...

deliberate effort to erode and undermine someone you actively think is town

not a good look nephy

[brainbomb]

##Vote Jamiet99uk

Thats our 10th scumread...

Are you deliberately obfuscating this or are you truly just this scattered?

is this important to ask? Im.consolidating on a wagon thats never left my wolfreads

[Nephthys]

Ooo Bunny's here

Give me a reason not to vote you

[brainbomb]

BobMcBob (4) Squigs44 damo666 bozotheclown KalelChase
e.m.c^42 (3) BunnyGo Foxcastle Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk (3) Vecna Kakarroto brainbomb
BunnyGo (2) Nephthys xorxes
KalelChase (2) BobMcBob rdrivera2005
bozotheclown (1) Kitsune
flash2015 (1) foodcoats
Foxcastle (1) flash2015

[BunnyGo]

Trying to catch up for EOD. Have to pick up kids.

1) I’m fed up with EMC. I policy voted last game and will do again
2) Kalel is scummy scum scum
3) the rest looks noisy to me. Could be anything so far
4) I’m so glad BB is here. I’m surprised I’m saying that.