MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Chaqa]

DONT SHOOT BONA

[brainbomb]

##vote Dargorygel

Guess voting Kgray D1 is not the way to go.

But her/darg/DemonRHK seem like the people id be willing to vote here. Jamiet and Maniac I dont mind giving a bit more extra time to warm up.

This appearance of RHK in vecnas scumreads comes out of nowhere. there isnt a single post where vecna talks to rhk or about rhk other than the excusing him playing video games

[rdrivera2005]

So in one of Demon's posts, they suggested their scumreads were Bona, Damo, RDR and townreads were brain, vecna, chaqa.

Simple scum ploy would be to alternate their reads with their teammates, right?

Does this somewhat clear Bona, Damo, and RDR?

Does it make more sus Brain, Vecna, and Chaqa?

Or is it simple enough to avoid mentioning their four other teammates at all?

I am feeling more town on brain. A little more sus on Vecna (really wanted to get people off of foodcoats) and still sus of Chaqa. But a big part of me makes me think they avoided mentioning their other 4 teammates.

My guess would be 1 scum in those 6 and the rest unmentioned.

Just mind-gaming here, with this interaction, I'd peg RDR and HB as scum.

I am starting to feel offended on you believing I will play this badly as scum.

Or maybe you can coach me

[Vecna]

I'm struggling to understand exactly how/why we got scum on Day 1. It makes me think scum just plain wasn't online and that could be interesting information in itself. Makes people like Macca, Flum, Jamiet, worcej, etc. look bad to me.

I think the Kakarot wagon was scum's preferred counter (based on RHK's vote) so that also makes me suspicious of the people on that wagon (though atm I assume Dargo is the cop).

[brainbomb]

Bona's early argument of wanting more nulls over reads had me leery of him early. The quote wall be edited stinks of trying to get people to take their word for it and handwave off people questioning it. Also, one of (if not the stroingest) townread I have at the moment is on the wagon. (And hammering, but brain uses hammers like macca uses exclamation points)

If you had read it, you would have noticed that I was actually arguing that brain's supposed towntell on Macca wasn't actually real and that their opening post was NAI. Lots of other people picked up on this pretty easily, so I don't see how you could've honestly misinterpreted that conversation.

town points for bona

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What's weird to me is how Demon has been posting but hasn't addressed the elephant in the room. Why would that be, Demon? I think most players, being the lead wagon, would offer some sort of defense. Maybe?

What elephant? That I'm catching a ton of votes? People think I'm a shit player and I'm an easy miskill.

I've heard you're a good player (and you showed this in our last game), which is why your sudden apparent incompetence is shocking to me.

scolding a scum buddy or bewildered at RHK making incompetant arguments. I think bona looks okay here

[brainbomb]

it could be bona getting pissed at seeing his scum stalker going down in flames day 1 too

[Vecna]

i havent gotten to vecna yet but I imagine he very strongly tried to excuse DemonRHK playing video games instead of solving

I really dont get this argument. Just because I like the games he mentioned, doesnt mean I "excused his play" or whatever logic you wanna push.

Me, food and Kgray are the main pushers of the RHK wagon, starting early. You kept talking about him, but never ever voted him.

So, inward eye and all that.

[brainbomb]

I reread all the major wagons (Demon, HB, Kak, and brain), and I rate them as such, towniest to least:
HB (I just don't see anything hugely out of place here, but he's not helping much either)
brain (I think the Macca thing from him was towny but he overreacted, in my view, and is thinking a lot (perhaps too much) about the werewolf - kinda scummy but I don't want to put him as scum yet)
Kak (just plain weird, kinda seems like a bus on darg? I dunno how to read him)
Demon (playing very subpar and his only vote has been unexplained in a real way)

##vote Demon

I'll bet darg is scum who realized that he fucked up in a big way and is now cashing in the open PR slot to get out but that wagon looks dead.

The reasoning for voting RHK is that he was playing sub par

this is actually NAI and does not definitively rule out bona as bussing out of annoyance

[brainbomb]

DemonRHK has 0 mentions of vecna in his ISO

[Vecna]

Here is a player really excited to play something else.

I mean, hades is pretty good

This is a defense of RHK. excusing him from a post he made admitting disinterest in solving and instead playing games on steam.

Youre reading too much into that shit

[Chaqa]

i havent gotten to vecna yet but I imagine he very strongly tried to excuse DemonRHK playing video games instead of solving

I really dont get this argument. Just because I like the games he mentioned, doesnt mean I "excused his play" or whatever logic you wanna push.

Me, food and Kgray are the main pushers of the RHK wagon, starting early. You kept talking about him, but never ever voted him.

So, inward eye and all that.

Oh yeah, food and kgray are the main RHK pushers. Sure.

Food voted RHK in response to my sus:

And are Demon and food still rubbing you the wrong way? Why?

See my last post on food,

RHK it's more nebulous but he has a weird lurker playstyle as scum I'm seeing here.

Join hands
Make the circle
Bind it
Send it back to the Hell

##VOTE DemonRHK

Vecna, why are you just straight up being a revisionist historian?

[brainbomb]

Interesting. Why do you like yavu as a vote here? I tend to scumread him, but that is because I do not have the highest opinion of yavu's play, but I have to admit his...antics...do at least provide points of discussion.

If my dog had left this post, I'd be required by law to pick it up and dispose of it.

I'm trying to get an answer as to why brain is now shading like the only person to scumread him thus far.

Yavu may not be a good player but brain low key omgusing him for some snarky javascript and followup is a steaming pile as well

Leaning town on yav because RHK chose to attack me for pushing him

[Vecna]

##vote Dargorygel

Guess voting Kgray D1 is not the way to go.

But her/darg/DemonRHK seem like the people id be willing to vote here. Jamiet and Maniac I dont mind giving a bit more extra time to warm up.

This appearance of RHK in vecnas scumreads comes out of nowhere. there isnt a single post where vecna talks to rhk or about rhk other than the excusing him playing video games

And, if I was preparing to bus a teammate, do you think thats how id be approaching it?

[brainbomb]

so I think if I were to rewind and go with first scumread first instinct id just go for yav. although kak on reread mostly just pep talked macca on how to interpret the role lesser gods play in helping titans

Interesting. Why do you like yavu as a vote here? I tend to scumread him, but that is because I do not have the highest opinion of yavu's play, but I have to admit his...antics...do at least provide points of discussion.

If my dog had left this post, I'd be required by law to pick it up and dispose of it.

I think if ghug were scum saying this to his own stalker that this is probably exactly how he would ridicule his own guy without bussing unecessarily

[brainbomb]

scum ghug tends to think that treating his scum buddies crappy in game thread will look like distancing without having to bus hard

[Vecna]

i havent gotten to vecna yet but I imagine he very strongly tried to excuse DemonRHK playing video games instead of solving

I really dont get this argument. Just because I like the games he mentioned, doesnt mean I "excused his play" or whatever logic you wanna push.

Me, food and Kgray are the main pushers of the RHK wagon, starting early. You kept talking about him, but never ever voted him.

So, inward eye and all that.

Oh yeah, food and kgray are the main RHK pushers. Sure.

Food voted RHK in response to my sus:

See my last post on food,

RHK it's more nebulous but he has a weird lurker playstyle as scum I'm seeing here.

Join hands
Make the circle
Bind it
Send it back to the Hell

##VOTE DemonRHK

Vecna, why are you just straight up being a revisionist historian?

I dno man, I remember it differently. I worked pretty hard to get that boyo killed im im looking at it with my pretty rose tinted glasses (this is a Hades reference, because I know it triggers brainbomb).

[damo666]

Damo early reads list

Bona - timing of his Demon vote looks very towny unless Kak Ham and Brain are all scum the likelihood of which is negligicelpble so I am going to simply assume Bona is town.

Brain - sounds towny but his Kakvote looks a possible demonsave. I'll sit on the fence for the timebeing.

celaph - can't remember anything of note but his Demon vote looks solid enough. Townlean.

Chaqa - probtown but does like a bus so townlean with caution.

damo - from an outsider's pov pretty nullish I would say.

darg - assume cop for now but if he survives N1 suspicions will grow. As has already been said if there is another cop out there stay quiet.

foodcoats - sounds very town and first to vote demon. Assume town.

ghug -dunno, need more time. Null

HB - sounds enthusiastic town to me.

Jamie - insufficient data as yet. Null

Kak - difficult to read and I have no meta to lean on. Vote for darg was odd but would scum do that? Null

kgray - switchback to Demon looks town. Assume town for time being.

Macca - slight townlean on gutfeel, not a great deal to go on

Maniac - late Demon vote looks suspiciously like a bus but other than that null

rdr - just seems off to me, slight scumlean, I wonder if the HB vote indicates he and karrotcake are scum.

Vecna - assume town for now due to Demon vote although a bus is obviously not impossible

worcej - bit quiet, not a fan of the Ham vote null

yav - haven't a clue really

scumteam guess #2 Maniac rdr karrotcake worcejshire

[Vecna]

Damo early reads list

Bona - timing of his Demon vote looks very towny unless Kak Ham and Brain are all scum the likelihood of which is negligicelpble so I am going to simply assume Bona is town.

Brain - sounds towny but his Kakvote looks a possible demonsave. I'll sit on the fence for the timebeing.

celaph - can't remember anything of note but his Demon vote looks solid enough. Townlean.

Chaqa - probtown but does like a bus so townlean with caution.

damo - from an outsider's pov pretty nullish I would say.

darg - assume cop for now but if he survives N1 suspicions will grow. As has already been said if there is another cop out there stay quiet.

foodcoats - sounds very town and first to vote demon. Assume town.

ghug -dunno, need more time. Null

HB - sounds enthusiastic town to me.

Jamie - insufficient data as yet. Null

Kak - difficult to read and I have no meta to lean on. Vote for darg was odd but would scum do that? Null

kgray - switchback to Demon looks town. Assume town for time being.

Macca - slight townlean on gutfeel, not a great deal to go on

Maniac - late Demon vote looks suspiciously like a bus but other than that null

rdr - just seems off to me, slight scumlean, I wonder if the HB vote indicates he and karrotcake are scum.

Vecna - assume town for now due to Demon vote although a bus is obviously not impossible

worcej - bit quiet, not a fan of the Ham vote null

yav - haven't a clue really

scumteam guess #2 Maniac rdr karrotcake worcejshire

Why are you assuming im town due to my demon vote - yet you were already townreading me and unwilling to vote me before I ever voted there?

[brainbomb]

I dont personally think my game will be affected by what town pr or scum pr are in play. I have no interest or desire to care about such details unless scum somehow slips through a fake pr claim and that happens so seldom I cant imagine why we should give a shit

I mean they have the very real ability to do so in this game.

we dont actually know if there is a Janitor for sure.
If you were referring to the 0 role we dont know that yet either.
so this shows concern or at least setup awareness