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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5801 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:36 pm

kgray wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:28 pm
Yesterday you said you thought damo was scum because he didn't care about the game, what changed?

Is Rivera being Chaqa's counterwagon the reason you're townreading him, or is there more?
1. My view on Damo changed due to Chaqa's flip. I felt he looked scummy yesterday as if he was happily coasting and putting in no effort, as if sum!damo he felt secure that we'd mis-kill and he'd win. Chaqa flipping scum caused me to reconsider. I then re-sorted the remaining pool and it seemed to me more likely that Damo was in the Town pot. He's more towny than Darg or Macca, I know my alignment, and I think that Rdrivera is town. You're bothering me because you're hard to sort but with Darg, Bunny, Macca in the likely scum pool and you a potential scum if one of those is wrong, that leaves Damo and Rdrivera as my strongest townreads by POE alone.

2. No that's not the only thing. The EoD5 stuff certainly makes me feel Rdrivera is town, and then also there's the POE exercise I just mentioned. There are only a few players left and I can't scumread them all. Added to that is the fact that it seems very, very unlikely scum chose the Public Vanilla and the Tree Stump.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5802 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:47 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:25 pm
Why has no one looked at connections with chaqa? We finally got a scum and in two days no one had really looked. That makes me suspicious of our power players... Rdr, kgray, bunny, and even Jamie... Although he did some connecting, just the wrong way
I posted a whole post analyzing his reads. I didn't go back a reread the game knowing chaqa was scum. This is a good question.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5803 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Here's what I get from reading Chaqa before he flipped, and looking for his reads.
(Note: I have only listed his reads on people who are still alive)

Day 5: He listed his top scumreads as Kgray, Rdrivera, and "maybe" Bunny.

Day 4: Chaqa listed Kgray as his top scumread, then Bunny and Rdrivera. He listed Macca and Dargo as nulls, and me as a top townread. During D4 he repeatedly attacked Kgray and called Kgray's scumread on him "OMGUS".

Night 3: Chaqa posted a reads list listing Dargo and Damo as town, and Kgray, Bunny, Macca and Rdrivera as scum.

Day 3: He pushed Kgray as his top scumread, also listed Rdrivera, Macca, and Damo as scum, and listed Dargorygel as town.

Day 2: He listed Kgray and Rdrivera as scum.

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Summary:

Chaqa listed Dargo as a top townread up to D4, but then changed this to a null.

Chaqa constantly declared a scumread on Kgray and Rdrivera from early in the game. This never wavered - they were constantly called out as scum in his fabricated "reads".

His fake "read" on Macca wobbled between scumreading him, then fading to a null read.

His fake "read" on Damo moved from scum to town.

Bunnygo featured occasionally in his reads, but always as a scumread.


Conclusion:

If he was bussing someone, it's probably Kgray with an outside chance of Rdrivera or Macca.

Pretending to move his read on Damo from scum to town is odd but I'm not sure what to make of that.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5804 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:59 pm

@Fluminator:

Do you think Chaqa was bussing someone (who is still alive today)?

If you do, please vote them between one and three times, with the number of votes indicating the strength of your confidence (3 being highest), and then return to your chosen vote.

If you do not think Chaqa was bussing, please briefly vote once for me, and then return to your chosen vote.

Thanks in advance for your input.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5805 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:04 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:59 pm
@Fluminator:

Do you think Chaqa was bussing someone (who is still alive today)?

If you do, please vote them between one and three times, with the number of votes indicating the strength of your confidence (3 being highest), and then return to your chosen vote.

If you do not think Chaqa was bussing, please briefly vote once for me, and then return to your chosen vote.

Thanks in advance for your input.
What's the point on this exercise Jamiet? Flum is voting Kgray and strongly scumread her. So it's obvious he believes Chaqa was bussing her.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5806 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:06 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:04 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:59 pm
@Fluminator:

Do you think Chaqa was bussing someone (who is still alive today)?

If you do, please vote them between one and three times, with the number of votes indicating the strength of your confidence (3 being highest), and then return to your chosen vote.

If you do not think Chaqa was bussing, please briefly vote once for me, and then return to your chosen vote.

Thanks in advance for your input.
What's the point on this exercise Jamiet? Flum is voting Kgray and strongly scumread her. So it's obvious he believes Chaqa was bussing her.
I'll tell you what's obvious. It's obvious you are not paying attention to the thread.

Fluminator is currently voting for Dargorygel.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5807 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:07 pm

Today will be between Dargo and Kgray. I don't know what to make from Dargo vote on Macca. It's not that bad because a tie isn't end of game, but it's a really stupid vote if you are town.
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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5808 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:08 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:07 pm
Today will be between Dargo and Kgray. I don't know what to make from Dargo vote on Macca. It's not that bad because a tie isn't end of game, but it's a really stupid vote if you are town.
Yes, that vote is odd.
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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5809 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:09 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:07 pm
Today will be between Dargo and Kgray. I don't know what to make from Dargo vote on Macca. It's not that bad because a tie isn't end of game, but it's a really stupid vote if you are town.
My first thought was "he's trying to entice me back there."

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5810 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:06 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:04 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:59 pm
@Fluminator:

Do you think Chaqa was bussing someone (who is still alive today)?

If you do, please vote them between one and three times, with the number of votes indicating the strength of your confidence (3 being highest), and then return to your chosen vote.

If you do not think Chaqa was bussing, please briefly vote once for me, and then return to your chosen vote.

Thanks in advance for your input.
What's the point on this exercise Jamiet? Flum is voting Kgray and strongly scumread her. So it's obvious he believes Chaqa was bussing her.
I'll tell you what's obvious. It's obvious you are not paying attention to the thread.

Fluminator is currently voting for Dargorygel.
Yes, but he also indicated he find Kgray scummier. He voted Darg to consolidate I think.
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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5811 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:10 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:09 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:07 pm
Today will be between Dargo and Kgray. I don't know what to make from Dargo vote on Macca. It's not that bad because a tie isn't end of game, but it's a really stupid vote if you are town.
My first thought was "he's trying to entice me back there."
Maybe, but he needs at least more two.

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#5812 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:18 pm

40 MINUTES LEFT

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5813 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:19 pm

@Rdrivera - you scumread both Kgray and Dargo, yes? You're happy with either of them as wagons? Just checking.

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#5814 Post by dargorygel » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:19 pm

I am leading at a dinner. Trying to follow and flow
My vote for macca IS trying to find somewhere other than me to consolidate on. I have a number of vague willing-to-vote folk. Imo any of them will be better than voting for me.

Nothing was happening, and I was hoping to get some big brains who have time to think.

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#5815 Post by Fluminator » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:23 pm

##Vote kgray
##Vote kgray
##Vote kgray

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#5816 Post by dargorygel » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:31 pm

I can sheep that.
##vote kgray

Scum has no reason to move from me.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5817 Post by kgray » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:23 pm
##Vote kgray
##Vote kgray
##Vote kgray
Hi Flum. I'm not scum but I have no idea how to convince you, since you can't really talk to me.

If anyone else has questions, I'm around. If you kill me, we lose.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5818 Post by worcej » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:45 pm

Vote Count:
dargorygel (5) Jamiet99uk, damo666, Macca573, kgray, BunnyGo
kgray (3) rdrivera2005, dargorygel, Fluminator

Currently darg is set to lose the game. 15 minutes left.

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#5819 Post by Fluminator » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:46 pm

##vote dargorygel

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5820 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:47 pm

worcej wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:45 pm
Vote Count:
dargorygel (5) Jamiet99uk, damo666, Macca573, kgray, BunnyGo
kgray (3) rdrivera2005, dargorygel, Fluminator

Currently darg is set to lose the game. 15 minutes left.
Wait, what?

Surely if Darg dies but his team triumphs, he would still win?

This was just a figure of speech, right GM?

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