M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[TheMadMonarch]

Chaqa avoiding Dargorygel's wagon D2 doesn't look great for Dargorygel either, glancing at that lovely colourful post I've just made.

Agreed.

[BunnyGo]

Could we stop telling scum who we are more or less likely to kill tomorrow? All this discussion on "looks bad" and "doesn't look bad". If they're scum or town we're helping scum decide what to do.

[TheMadMonarch]

Could we stop telling scum who we are more or less likely to kill tomorrow? All this discussion on "looks bad" and "doesn't look bad". If they're scum or town we're helping scum decide what to do.

Is this paragraph "don't post reads"?

[Chaqa]

The mafia team say they will trade the identity of their team if you guys vote no-kill.

[rdrivera2005]

Could we stop telling scum who we are more or less likely to kill tomorrow? All this discussion on "looks bad" and "doesn't look bad". If they're scum or town we're helping scum decide what to do.

Is this paragraph "don't post reads"?

If possible post just before EON to avoid giving info to scum.

Or post the opposite just to generate WIFOM.

##Call GM - Scum can not choose roles at the first 24h? The answer seems obvious to me, but people are still discussing it.

[dargorygel]

They answered that, rdrivera... and crushed my tinfoil hat

[BunnyGo]

Could we stop telling scum who we are more or less likely to kill tomorrow? All this discussion on "looks bad" and "doesn't look bad". If they're scum or town we're helping scum decide what to do.

Is this paragraph "don't post reads"?

With some extra subtlety, but yes.

[TheMadMonarch]

The mafia team say they will trade the identity of their team if you guys vote no-kill.

Which one suggested this?

[Jamiet99uk]

Roles:

Chaqa flipped as the Mafia tree stump. What a choice, or was it? There have been some theories thrown around about mafia taking random roles, and I think that this supports them.

Think about it.

Starting with $90, recruit for $80, $10 left. They could spend that on day chat, or, leave it to use in a dire situation (such as some roleblocks approaching lylo).

It's not that they don't get roles if they don't purchase them, it's that they get random ones, and once they take the bonus member, randomness might just be their best shot at good roles. Additionally, having random roles would render discussions about their choices not only useless, but an active hindrance to town (since a scum could suggest reasonable solutions that they know they don't have).

This is all wrong:

##CALL.GM: could the mafia have decided to not choose any rolls, but save their money?

No, the mafia had to purchase 3 roles at the start of the game.

[Jamiet99uk]

Could we stop telling scum who we are more or less likely to kill tomorrow? All this discussion on "looks bad" and "doesn't look bad". If they're scum or town we're helping scum decide what to do.

Is this paragraph "don't post reads"?

If possible post just before EON to avoid giving info to scum.

Or post the opposite just to generate WIFOM.

##Call GM - Scum can not choose roles at the first 24h? The answer seems obvious to me, but people are still discussing it.

Answered already:

##CALL.GM: could the mafia have decided to not choose any rolls, but save their money?

No, the mafia had to purchase 3 roles at the start of the game.

[Jamiet99uk]

The mafia team say they will trade the identity of their team if you guys vote no-kill.

We'll consider that if you no-kill tonight as a gesture of good faith.

[dargorygel]

Here’s the dealio

This morning I am driving 5 hours to spend her third birthday with my granddaughter. I won’t be back home till Saturday evening. And then Sunday is ALWAYS my absent-day.

I am not writing this (AT ALL) to get mercy from those who sincerely are scum-reading me. I will attempt to be around SOME. Definitely enough to meet more-than-minimum-postings.

But if I am on the main chopping block, I will not have presence to do an adequate defending job. That is on ME, though (or at least it’s my granddaughter’s fault.) and I accept the consequences of my trip.

I am writing this morning simply to rule out the, “See? Darg is hiding” offense.

Also… if scum is at all considering me as a NK, I would appreciate it. There is not any real reason for you to pick me over the other town. Especially because you will have an easier missdaykill with me absent than with others present. But it IS close to Christmas.

Regarding my (early) EoN analysis.

From Camp Omgus, I found it surprising how many in the room immediately (immediately!) starting presenting cases in the Night.

Please look at chaqa’s connections. And look at who connects TO chaqa. That is more valuable than who chaqa connected to.

I DID shift from chaqa, and back. But I did so for the reason that I was unsure. Things didn’t feel right. Others shifted too because it was a moment of intense insecurity.

Even Jamie shifted.

As I said, I will attempt to be in from time to time. But that’s it for now.

[dargorygel]

From the Scum QT
Darg: Do you think they’ll lessen the pressure, now?
Damo: I’m not sure… let me do some calculations.
Jamie: I don’t think they’ll fall for it, darg. But I’ll act all grumpy about it!
Macca: No one is listening…
Darg: Wait… aren’t YOU three the ones putting pressure??
Chaqa: Can I still talk in here?

[TheMadMonarch]

From the Scum QT
Darg: Do you think they’ll lessen the pressure, now?
Damo: I’m not sure… let me do some calculations.
Jamie: I don’t think they’ll fall for it, darg. But I’ll act all grumpy about it!
Macca: No one is listening…
Darg: Wait… aren’t YOU three the ones putting pressure??
Chaqa: Can I still talk in here?

That's five.

[TheMadMonarch]

Roles:

Chaqa flipped as the Mafia tree stump. What a choice, or was it? There have been some theories thrown around about mafia taking random roles, and I think that this supports them.

Think about it.

Starting with $90, recruit for $80, $10 left. They could spend that on day chat, or, leave it to use in a dire situation (such as some roleblocks approaching lylo).

It's not that they don't get roles if they don't purchase them, it's that they get random ones, and once they take the bonus member, randomness might just be their best shot at good roles. Additionally, having random roles would render discussions about their choices not only useless, but an active hindrance to town (since a scum could suggest reasonable solutions that they know they don't have).

This is all wrong:

##CALL.GM: could the mafia have decided to not choose any rolls, but save their money?

No, the mafia had to purchase 3 roles at the start of the game.

Damm.

This GM answer came though in the period I did not read, so I did not see this.

This then, though, raises the next important question:

Chaqa, why did you pick the tree stump?

Kidding, but in seriousness,

##CALLGM What would have happened if the scum just didn't put in choices?

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes let's ask the GM speculative questions about things we know did not occur. That's a good use of the GM's time.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not sure if I'll be around at EoN

Current reads from TOWN to SCUM

MOST TOWN
Jamiet99uk
damo666

BunnyGo

kgray
Macca573
rdrivera2005
MOST SCUM

[Jamiet99uk]

Incorrect. This posted for some reason while I was arranging the list. I did not click "submit" so I have no idea why that occurred.

EBWOP - corrected list:

I'm not sure if I'll be around at EoN

Current reads from TOWN to SCUM

MOST TOWN
Jamiet99uk
rdrivera2005
damo666
Macca573
BunnyGo




dargorygel
MOST SCUM

How odd. Hopefully that was just a random glitch not a wider forum bug.

[Jamiet99uk]

What the fuck?

I am attempting to post a reads list and twice in a row, the post has just spontaneously submitted while I was typing it.

Really weird.

Please ignore both of the above posts - neither was complete when the site published them despite me going nowhere near the "submit" button.

I'm going to try typing the list in notepad and then pasting it in.

[Jamiet99uk]

THIRD TIME LUCKY - here is my reads list:

MOST TOWN
=========
Jamiet99uk
damo666
rdrivera2005
kgray
Macca573
BunnyGo
dargorygel
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MOST SCUM